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Archae

(46,328 posts)
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 01:41 PM Aug 2015

I have an apple in front of me...

It has a small label on it, with a number, "USA" and "Red Del" on it.

The label is about the size of my thumbnail.

If the anti-GMO hysterics really want a label like that on their own apples, that includes "Non GMO," fine.

But "Red Delicious" apples are already GMO's.

And what if an apple is mis-labeled, accidentally, or on purpose?

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I have an apple in front of me... (Original Post) Archae Aug 2015 OP
Are apples GMO by splicing alien genes into chromosomes? TexasProgresive Aug 2015 #1
This is exactly what I am talking about. Archae Aug 2015 #3
Apples are kind of a poor example TexasProgresive Aug 2015 #6
All life has "alien" genes spliced throughout its genome. ALL OF IT! longship Aug 2015 #7
If it is a Red Del... postulater Aug 2015 #2
They are also not delicious. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2015 #4
Lol... Too true! demmiblue Aug 2015 #5

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
1. Are apples GMO by splicing alien genes into chromosomes?
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 01:48 PM
Aug 2015

Or are you referring to something else such as gene manipulation by breeding and cross breeding?

Archae

(46,328 posts)
3. This is exactly what I am talking about.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 01:54 PM
Aug 2015

Are either method "natural" or "organic?"

Obviously, no.

But the "Frankenfood" hysterics have this wild view of GMO research, a mad scientist cackling as he pokes fruit with a needle.

Meanwhile the organic producers are not hippies singing "Inch By Inch" as they tenderly water plants by hand.

Organic producers use pesticides that are far more toxic than Roundup ever was.

And then they overcharge for their food.
Many times by 2, 3 or even 4 times the true price.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
6. Apples are kind of a poor example
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 02:03 PM
Aug 2015

What I remember about apples is that the seed is not true. You plant a Macintosh seed and you will get a tree that bears some other kind of apple. So most apple trees are grafted on a hardy root stock with a scion from a tree that bears the type apple one wants. Now if you want an example where plant breeding has been used extensively try corn (not gene spliced) or cotton or marigolds.

longship

(40,416 posts)
7. All life has "alien" genes spliced throughout its genome. ALL OF IT!
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 02:48 PM
Aug 2015

And there is no substantive difference between gene manipulation and cross-breeding. NONE! They both accomplish the same exact things, only one with more specificity than the other. Other than that, there is no difference. Certainly none in safety.

postulater

(5,075 posts)
2. If it is a Red Del...
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 01:52 PM
Aug 2015

the label should also say Tasteless.

Whatever GMOing they did to that apple didn't improve it at all.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)
4. They are also not delicious.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 01:59 PM
Aug 2015

If they are going to use gene-splicing on foods, I hope they can do better than the "Red Delicious," which is basically papier-mache formed to look like an apple. If they used non-apple genes to make that thing I'm guessing they used the genes of the cotton plant.

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