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kentuck

(111,098 posts)
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 03:29 PM Aug 2015

Get a backbone, Democrats!

If you have not read Hillary's emails, then you have no idea whether or not they were "top secret". This goes for the loudmouth Republican partisans and the groveling corporate media that reports such crap.

IF....if...if...if... bullshit!

I am not trying to tell Hillary's campaign what to do, but she is getting dragged thru the coals on this "email" issue. Somebody needs to call the media on their name-calling and character assassination, without one iota of proof. They are only reporting what the Republicans want. They are worse than worthless.

Until they have some evidence that the emails had "secret" information in them, then they should shut the hell up, in my humble opinion.

It is nothing but a partisan witch-hunt by the Republicans to get her out of the race and the corporate media, led by Rupert Murdoch and FOX News, are leading the charge. Up to this point, they have nothing. They should stop pretending otherwise.

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DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
2. jftr - it is not a question of if the emails "were" top secret.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 03:34 PM
Aug 2015

They were not.

The dispute is about whether of not some should be retroactively classified. The fight has nothing to do with Hillary and everything to do with various agencies bickering among themselves. It is a turf war and the media is too damn dumb to understand it.

livetohike

(22,145 posts)
3. The media is all about sensationalism. They haven't had anything to do with decent journalism in
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 03:34 PM
Aug 2015

decades. Imagine how worse this is going to get the closer to the primary elections. Not sure what the answer is, but there doesn't seem to be any push back.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
8. There's not any pushback because the media can keep bouncing...
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 03:50 PM
Aug 2015

...between players. When it's a bs story on a Republican, we're happy to believe it and the Republicans fume about the media while we laugh. When it's a bs story on one of us, we fume about the media while the Republicans laugh. Ironically enough, the only ones whose laughter is genuine is those in power, because the media does what they want them to do.

Maybe one day we'll get tired of it. Gamergate nearly crippled Gawker, one of the true giants of online media, with a few thousand people, emails, and social media with an entire fabricated media narrative against them. You don't think 150 million americans can't start getting actual media by next week if they really wanted it?

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
5. Of course it's a witch hunt. She should not have used personal email for SoS comms, though.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 03:39 PM
Aug 2015

Why they let her (and anyone else) opt out of using State email is still beyond me.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
6. A lot of this she brought on herself
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 03:44 PM
Aug 2015

By employing the classic Clinton strategy of indignantly denying everything, blaming the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, then allowing the truth to emerge in dribs and drabs, complete with insincere confessions of what leaked out and vigorous denials of everything else, rinse and repeat.

I honestly have no idea whether or not she's guilty of anything beyond appalling judgment and and overdeveloped sense of entitlement.

But that in itself is enough to disqualify her IMO.

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
7. Hillary's campaign needs to remain cautious in any pronouncements regarding the emails on her server
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 03:49 PM
Aug 2015

The reason is simple:
4+ years of emails sent to her may well contain unidentified classified information sent to her without Hillary's awareness. Worse, she may have inadvertently replied to emails containing such undisclosed classified info quite innocently. Therefore, the campaign needs to be watchful of any statements until discovery has been completed.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
10. .
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 04:01 PM
Aug 2015
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/private-clinton-emails-included-two-top-secret-messages-investigators-n408186

^snip^

Two of the four classified messages discovered in emails turned over to the State Department by Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton were labeled "top secret," the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee said Tuesday.






Grassley is a nut case, none of us here doubt that. Even so, the media can't ignore a statement like that. The Clinton campaign has mishandled this from day one. The entire "two phones" excuse was nonsense. Deleting emails was just stupid and fighting turning over the server made it look even worse.

The campaign is proving that it can't deal with right win attacks. This one should have been easy to deal with, now it is a mess.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
11. I'm sorry on this one, where there's smoke, there's fire. It begs the question
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 04:24 PM
Aug 2015

of other deeds, such as specifically the Clinton Foundation. That one is insanity. She has proved herself a "typical Clinton" and don't think it's going to fly.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
12. Get used to it. This is what we'll get if she's lucky enough to win the Presidency..which i doubt.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 04:41 PM
Aug 2015

There will be no stopping it.

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