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marmar

(77,080 posts)
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 10:47 AM Aug 2015

Behind the Business Attire, Many Bank Workers Earn Poverty Wages


(In These Times) Walking into a bank, a customer is usually interacting with a teller dressed in business attire. The clothing gives the impression of relatively high, stable wages, maybe even a comfortable perch somewhere in the middle or upper-middle class. But the collared shirts and pressed slacks may be hiding the reality: a significant portion of customer service workers in the retail banking industry make salaries low enough to make public assistance necessary.

The Committee for Better Banks (CBB), a Communications Workers of America (CWA)-affiliated community and labor coalition, was created in 2013 to put an end to that. Cassaundra Plummer, a Maryland-based CBB member currently employed as a bank teller at TD Bank, told In These Times, “A lot of the issues within the banks are not discussed, they’re kept really quiet. As a young woman, I always thought that working at a bank was more of a prestigious job than retail. Once I actually got into banking, I realized that it’s not a whole lot different.”

The CBB, which has grown from eight members in April to approximately 60 active members in six different states today, is hoping to expand and create a critical mass of organized workers by bringing these issues out in the open.

A study released by the National Employment Law Project (NELP) early this month shored up CBB claims, finding that 30.4% of the 1.7 million retail banking employees across the country—more than 500,000 workers—are paid less than $15 an hour. Nearly three-quarters of low-wage bank workers are bank tellers, 84.3% of which are women. ..................(more)

http://inthesetimes.com/working/entry/18349/behind_the_business_attire_many_bank_workers_earn_poverty_wages




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Behind the Business Attire, Many Bank Workers Earn Poverty Wages (Original Post) marmar Aug 2015 OP
Banks and Insurance Co's have never paid enough to workers. Ever. n/t haikugal Aug 2015 #1
It is a problem, but the alternative doesn't seem too either yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #3
It isn't about the dress code, which is appropriate in my view... haikugal Aug 2015 #9
Which still stumps me that employees still apply for these jobs yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #12
I worked for home offices in banks, drug store chains and insurance co's.. haikugal Aug 2015 #15
I have a friend that is a full time teller. leftyladyfrommo Aug 2015 #2
That is probably 10 or 11 dollars an hour before deductions. yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #4
Tellers have always been the low guys on the totem pole. leftyladyfrommo Aug 2015 #6
I could never understand why employees pick a bank to work at yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #7
Maybe they think they will run into richie rich and he/she will throw them a bone. lonestarnot Aug 2015 #14
Actually not always but since these positions became DawgHouse Aug 2015 #16
It's less than that. notadmblnd Aug 2015 #10
Because bank teller is traditionally "women's work" Freddie Aug 2015 #5
Your son has a valuable degree. It's not like he majored in sociology. yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #8
I suggest he give teaching a try TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #11
Perfect reply!!!!! yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #13
Oddly enough, a bachelor's degree in biology often TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #17
Oh no. Poor person. What a job. yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #21
Not the WORST job TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #22
He was going to be a science teacher but... Freddie Aug 2015 #18
I was in the business from 1986 - 2010 and experienced plenty of highs and lows. Snarkoleptic Aug 2015 #19
hey, they came up with profiting not by goods or services, MisterP Aug 2015 #20
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
3. It is a problem, but the alternative doesn't seem too either
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 11:02 AM
Aug 2015

You want to walk into a bank full of professional looking employees because you are safeguarding your money. Do we want to walk into a bank with emoployees wearing junky clothes? Not so much. And worse if you are trying to get a loan and the employee is dressed down?

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
9. It isn't about the dress code, which is appropriate in my view...
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 11:16 AM
Aug 2015

It's the fact that they require a certain level of competence and ability while paying so little...they have never payed employees what they're worth.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
12. Which still stumps me that employees still apply for these jobs
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 11:22 AM
Aug 2015

I never worked in a bank, but something must be attractive to have applicants wanting them. If the banks suddenly didn't have anybody applying for the positions, they'd have to make the financial aspects more attractive. It would be interesting to hear from a teller on why they applied and why they stay. Could be the hours, guaranteed Sunday's off and holidays off. Otherwise I have no idea.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
15. I worked for home offices in banks, drug store chains and insurance co's..
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 11:30 AM
Aug 2015

They're all the same.

People go where they can find employment. Sometimes they need to be close to home or there isn't anything else unless you drive 45 to 50 miles each way...that costs money, and an extra 4 days a month without pay. We haven't had a gung-ho economy for most of my life and a good job is hard to find.

Look at all the people who thought college would increase their chances...

People didn't just start hurting, it's been true for decades. What once came with a job now doesn't plus time off and sick pay? Don't get me started...lol

Times are tough.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
2. I have a friend that is a full time teller.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 11:02 AM
Aug 2015

She takes home about $1,000 a month.

And they are always the ones who have to deal with bank robbers sticking guns in their faces.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
6. Tellers have always been the low guys on the totem pole.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 11:09 AM
Aug 2015

But a lot of the other office type jobs in banks are really low pay, too. People who work in the back processing transactions have never made all that much. I was doing mortgage work for a bank in the 70's making about $350. When I changed and went to work for a mortgage company I started at $850. Doesn't sound like much now but I could live on that then.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
7. I could never understand why employees pick a bank to work at
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 11:13 AM
Aug 2015

Most require college degree and could make more money elsewhere. I guess they might think it adds to the resume or is a good first Job.

DawgHouse

(4,019 posts)
16. Actually not always but since these positions became
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 11:42 AM
Aug 2015

mostly occupied by women, the pay rate decreased. Same with teachers and secretaries, if I recall correctly.

Those old black and white photos of male secretaries, bankers, teachers, etc., were a time when these jobs were paid well enough to support a family. I wish I could remember the statistics but I believe it may have been addressed in Nickel and Dimed, but not sure.

Here's a quick link to a paper about it. That's all I got.

http://www.jstor.org/stable/349451?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
10. It's less than that.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 11:18 AM
Aug 2015

more like 8 or 9. I remember when I worked at a bank, starting pay was 2.10 an hour in the proof department. Tellers made approx 108.00 a week before deductions. That was in 1976. When I left ten years later I wasn't even making 20k a year. I don't imagine banks pay any more than minimum wage now. Maybe if you're really good at up selling financial products- one can make more.

Freddie

(9,265 posts)
5. Because bank teller is traditionally "women's work"
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 11:09 AM
Aug 2015

School-day hours (back when banks closed at 3:00). Back in the day bank teller was a "pink-collar" job: low pay and high responsibility, because banks could get away with it. Unlike nursing and teaching, which require a college education and market forces/labor shortages have forced wages up, nothing of the sort has happened in lower-level banking jobs.
My son (25) is a bank teller making $11/hour while he figures out what to do with his life (has a BS in biology). He mostly likes the job and is grateful to not be working at Walmart and to have normal working hours.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
8. Your son has a valuable degree. It's not like he majored in sociology.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 11:16 AM
Aug 2015

I think he could easily get a job teaching and a host of other employment offers. I do understand the need to take some time to figure out what you want to do in life though. That's typically what the first job is for.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,185 posts)
11. I suggest he give teaching a try
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 11:22 AM
Aug 2015

Many school districts have alternative certification programs. Frankly, if he's good in any sports, he might be able to get a coach/science teacher job. Some schools hold science and social studies jobs open to give them to coach/teachers.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,185 posts)
17. Oddly enough, a bachelor's degree in biology often
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 11:51 AM
Aug 2015

isn't worth all that much unless he got some specialized training in some kind of biotechnology. He may have several hours in chemistry that might make him more marketable. The sciences pretty much require at least a Master's Degree.

I got my teaching certificate while I was in college, so that was my game plan from he start. But I knew another teacher with a BS in biology who had returned to school to get her certificate. The only job she was able to get her BS was analyzing stool samples.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,185 posts)
22. Not the WORST job
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 01:59 PM
Aug 2015

I had a friend who was a CMA - Certified Medical Assistant. She had several years experience and had been happily working for a dermatologist practice. Then they added a new doctor and they didn't get along with her AT ALL. So they fired her. She looked and looked, but the only position she could find was for a urologist who specialized in vasectomies. So her job, all day every day, was to shave balls.

Freddie

(9,265 posts)
18. He was going to be a science teacher but...
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 11:53 AM
Aug 2015

He was kicked out of the teaching program due to the issues that landed him in drug rehab. Thankfully he was able to finish his BS in biology locally. He's an (at the moment) recovering addict and doing ok. He'll probably do the fairly low-stress bank job for a while and then go to grad school for PA or OT. Smart kid made some stupid decisions.

Snarkoleptic

(5,997 posts)
19. I was in the business from 1986 - 2010 and experienced plenty of highs and lows.
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 12:15 PM
Aug 2015

Looking back, I'd say it's a business obsessed with growth, mainly achieved through consolidation and acquisition. There is no shortage of sociopaty in the management ranks as well as those aspiring 'climbers'. For me it was the best of times and the worst of times. What drove me out was being laid off 4-times in 8.5 years, which was tough on us as a single-income family. The last 3-years, I went indy and was summarily crushed by new regulations that were pushed for by the big banks (esp. Chase).

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
20. hey, they came up with profiting not by goods or services,
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 01:16 PM
Aug 2015

but by burning the company to the ground and then selling off what's left

and it all starts at home

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