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elleng

(130,881 posts)
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 08:19 PM Aug 2015

Democrats to Win in a Landslide in 2016, According to Moody's Election Model.

Our Moody's Analytics election model now predicts a Democratic electoral landslide in the 2016 presidential vote. A small change in the forecast data in August has swung the outcome from the statistical tie predicted in July, to a razor-edge ballot outcome that nevertheless gives the incumbent party 326 electoral votes to the Republican challenger's 212.

Just three states account for the change in margin, with Ohio, Florida and Colorado swinging from leaning Republican to leaning Democrat. The margin of victory in each of these important swing states is still solidly within the margin of error though, and will likely swing back and forth in Moody's monthly updates ahead, underlining the closeness of the election to come. Furthermore, three of the candidates for the Republican nomination enjoy favorite-son status in Ohio or Florida, potentially making the outcome of those important states even more unpredictable.

It takes 270 electoral votes to win a U.S. presidential election. Our July forecast predicted a Democratic win with 270 electoral votes, to 268 for the Republican, regardless of who wins either party's nomination. Read More: Deep Dive Into Moody's Model.

The primary factor driving the results further to the incumbent party in August is lower gasoline prices. Plummeting prices and changing dynamics in global energy markets from Chinese weakness and the Iranian nuclear deal have caused us to significantly lower our gasoline price forecast for the next several years. This variable is very significant to voter sentiment in the model, with lower prices favoring incumbents.

It is important to note that the model does not reflect results if an election were held today, but relies on Moody's Analytics economic forecasts to determine what the world will look like in November 2016. Should gasoline prices rebound above the current baseline forecast by election time, the results of the model will move more in favor of the challenging Republicans. The forecast for house prices also accelerated moderately.

http://www.thestreet.com/story/13271435/1/democrats-to-win-in-a-landslide-in-2016-according-to-moody-s-election-model.html

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Democrats to Win in a Landslide in 2016, According to Moody's Election Model. (Original Post) elleng Aug 2015 OP
I dont see any predictions about election INdemo Aug 2015 #1
It's what they do with the landslide that counts. NV Whino Aug 2015 #2
Common Sense Analytics, by Fred Sanders, also forecasts a landslide for democracy over fascism. Hence the no Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #3
Yeah we've got this wrapped up no matter who we run, or who they run. ileus Aug 2015 #4
You never cross the same river twice. Springslips Aug 2015 #5
The only way the GOP rises in the future is if they run a Democrat. nt 7962 Sep 2015 #22
Since 1980, reported 90% accuracy... jtuck004 Aug 2015 #6
Haven't any you learned... Marty McGraw Aug 2015 #7
...from the new Star Wars Trailer? left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #8
Darth Vader, unlike Darth Cheney, actually fought in wars he started. muntrv Sep 2015 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author RiverNoord Sep 2015 #20
At least the bastard had the guts to apologize. Elmer S. E. Dump Sep 2015 #28
Zing! Fearless Sep 2015 #23
We need the legislature, House and Senate Demeter Aug 2015 #9
+1 Jamaal510 Sep 2015 #12
I wait and see. They are plenty of factors in this prediction. NYCButterfinger Aug 2015 #10
this year style seems to matter more than substance-at least on the Rep. side meir34 Aug 2015 #11
Oh good. We are done then. No need to vote. Helen Borg Sep 2015 #13
What about Congress? V0ltairesGh0st Sep 2015 #14
Congress is gerrymandered GOP. Nothing fixes that Gman Sep 2015 #25
The House is gerrymandered davidpdx Sep 2015 #30
Not the Senate where Dems are going to gain seats. L. Coyote Sep 2015 #32
That's true but Gman Sep 2015 #34
Is this Moody's the Bond Ratings Firm? bucolic_frolic Sep 2015 #15
It's too early to be making predictions - even predictions based on current data. SpankMe Sep 2015 #16
I hope the landslide happens Stevepol Sep 2015 #18
But it's a very sensitive model that can be easily change bluestateguy Sep 2015 #19
We are what...14 months away? davidn3600 Sep 2015 #21
yeah youceyec Sep 2015 #24
Not if they keep pulling fredamae Sep 2015 #26
I'm just a talking dog, not a praying one. TalkingDog Sep 2015 #27
This is TOTAL BULLSHIT!!! the democrats are not going to win this election in a landslide in fact bigdarryl Sep 2015 #29
Thanks for the warning before reading the rest. L. Coyote Sep 2015 #35
The only way we can screw up 2016 is with a shitty VP selection LynneSin Sep 2015 #31
The GOP may win AK and WV....and maybe not WV. ileus Sep 2015 #33

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
1. I dont see any predictions about election
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 08:42 PM
Aug 2015

theft factored in..Republicans are very good a stealing votes

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
3. Common Sense Analytics, by Fred Sanders, also forecasts a landslide for democracy over fascism. Hence the no
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 08:51 PM
Aug 2015

holds barred mud wrestling of the GOP and their co-dependent media.

Keep an eye on the voting machines, Election Day voter suppression and deceit and also Electoral College shenanigans even more carefully this time around.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
4. Yeah we've got this wrapped up no matter who we run, or who they run.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 08:54 PM
Aug 2015

They just simply don't have the votes to beat us in a 50 state election anymore. WE will never lose the presidency again...mark my word.

Springslips

(533 posts)
5. You never cross the same river twice.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 10:11 PM
Aug 2015

The world is always in flux; things chance.

I mean, your right in that the GOP as it is today struggles to win a national election considering the current electorate. But I wouldn't say they never will win again. Things will change. The GOP would move left after a few more loses,especially if demographics effect congressional midterms. Or a event could happen that swings the people to the right. But more likely it will be either of these two: one, the Third Wayers and bluedogs will go to the GOP making the split left of the spectrum; or more likely two, in 50-years what we think as left and right will be way different then we can imagine today.

The GOP is certain to rise back in the future. It is still possible they could win today; but that slim possibility is evaporating by the hour.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
6. Since 1980, reported 90% accuracy...
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 10:36 PM
Aug 2015

"The primary factor driving the results further to the incumbent party in August is lower gasoline prices. Plummeting prices and changing dynamics in global energy markets from Chinese weakness and the Iranian nuclear deal have caused us to significantly lower our gasoline price forecast for the next several years. This variable is very significant to voter sentiment in the model, with lower prices favoring incumbents. "

i.e. what happened to Carter.


But we saw how crazy-making that was. As prices go down, we burn more, and burn up the earth we need to live.

We know better than that now, and we are not so venal, selfish, and suicidal.


Marty McGraw

(1,024 posts)
7. Haven't any you learned...
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 10:40 PM
Aug 2015

...from the new Star Wars Trailer? Just when you would think it had been snuffed away for good....

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
8. ...from the new Star Wars Trailer?
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 10:49 PM
Aug 2015

Darth Vader was just on TV past day or so, patting himself on the back for the success of the Iraq War.

Response to muntrv (Reply #17)

 

NYCButterfinger

(755 posts)
10. I wait and see. They are plenty of factors in this prediction.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 10:53 PM
Aug 2015

Economy, health care, foreign affairs, criminal justice reform, etc. It depends on who the Republican nominee is.

meir34

(5 posts)
11. this year style seems to matter more than substance-at least on the Rep. side
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 11:29 PM
Aug 2015

Trump's bombastic and egotistical style-e.g. I'm the greatest negotiator G-d ever "created"--seems to preempt any discussion of his simplistic and unworkable policies. Marshall McCluhan was right so far. The medium is the message. Can that continue all the way until next November? @ pragmaticliberalism.com

Gman

(24,780 posts)
25. Congress is gerrymandered GOP. Nothing fixes that
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:20 AM
Sep 2015

Democrats must win back statehouses and state legislatures by 2020 to reverse GOP influence.

That means it would not be until at least 2021, that a reelected Dem president can make significant changes.

That also means by the end of 2017 many Democrats will whine and complain that the Democrat elected president in 2016 (regardless of who it is) is just more of the same.

You read it hear first.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
30. The House is gerrymandered
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 08:15 AM
Sep 2015

The Senate in 2016 will certainly be up for grabs with as many seats as the Republicans will be defending.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
34. That's true but
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 09:30 PM
Sep 2015

We need both houses. Or else gridlock continues as it did before we lost the Senate.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
16. It's too early to be making predictions - even predictions based on current data.
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 11:59 AM
Sep 2015

So much can change between now and Nov. 2016 that predictions like this are not only useless, but potentially harmful. Harmful because it could cause some voters to not go through the trouble of voting because "Moody's says the Dems will win in a landslide. If it's a done deal, then I won't make the effort to vote, so I can stick to my video games..."

Stevepol

(4,234 posts)
18. I hope the landslide happens
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 04:01 PM
Sep 2015

but unless Bernie or whoever the Dem candidate is, pays attention to the RED SHIFT for the other candidates down ballot it will all be for nothing. The voting machine companies have it down to a science by now and unless there is some way to VERIFY THE VOTE, nothing will be accomplished even if, in reality, the Dems win their elections (as Gore and Kerry did and as many many other Dems down ballot have done in the last decade and a half), because the voting machines will make sure that the insuperable stumbling block of Republican numbers is maintained.

VERIFY THE VOTE!!

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
19. But it's a very sensitive model that can be easily change
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 07:05 PM
Sep 2015

And they have all but said that they will make future revisions to their model.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
26. Not if they keep pulling
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:39 AM
Sep 2015

crap like This, imo!

"The issue could later haunt Castro, who has been mentioned as a leading candidate to become Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton's running mate for the 2016 election."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/julián-castro-helps-wall-street-criminals-dodge-accountability_55e5d0dae4b0aec9f3549597?utm_hp_ref=politics

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
27. I'm just a talking dog, not a praying one.
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 01:20 PM
Sep 2015

But I'm tempted to start.

Logged in just to and recommend this post.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
29. This is TOTAL BULLSHIT!!! the democrats are not going to win this election in a landslide in fact
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:16 AM
Sep 2015

We may end up loosing with the possibility of a nasty primary fight especially if Biden gets in.This is starting to smell like 1968 and 1980 all over again

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
31. The only way we can screw up 2016 is with a shitty VP selection
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 09:09 AM
Sep 2015

I think what hurt John Kerry in 2004 and even Al Gore in 2000 is lackluster VP selections. Edwards and Lieberman were horrible choices that did not inspire voters.

2008 and 2012 we had high voter turnout because of Barack Obama. He helped solidify his youth by bringing in Joe Biden to round out the ticket with experience.

More than likely the Democratic Nominee is going to be an older White person - either Clinton, Sanders or possibly Biden himself if he jumps in the Race. What these people need in order to bring in huge voter turnout is a candidate that can bring in extra energy to the ticket. These candidates need to reach out to the voters and especially to one of the largest voting blocks out there which is the Hispanic population. I think that is why Joaquim Castro (or is it Julio, I get the twins mixed up) would be a great choice for the VP. I also think Cory Booker should be strongly considered.

Any of the top 3 Presidential contenders for the Democrats bring experience to the ticket, something that Obama did not have. So these Nominees should not bring experience as their VP but youth and excitement. I know some people talk about Warren but honestly, I think that would be a step backwards for her. She better serves us in congress where if we play our cards right she could hold a Committee Chair in the 2017 Senate Majority. Her voice would be much more powerful there than as a Vice President.

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