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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt is absolutely wrong for modern leaders to change mountain names in place for decades
So rename Mount Reagan back to its traditional Mount Clay, Grover Norquist be damned.
When admirers of Ronald Reagan went casting about in New Hampshire for a monument to the former president, they seized upon a peak in the White Mountains.
Mount Clay, they said, begged for a new name.
Situated in the Presidential Range, where neighboring summits are named for presidents including Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Pierce, and Monroe, Clay seemed an outlier. It was named after a mere senator a titanic figure of the 19th century, to be sure, but no president. Reagan was the better fit among the presidential company. Local towns supported the change and in 2003, the Legislature approved it.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2010/05/22/on_the_trail_to_mount_reagan_forgetting_the_feats_of_clay/
http://www.reaganfoundation.org/programs/lc/named_in_honor.asp
And, yes, I realize Denali is actually the traditional name long in place before Mckinley and what Alaskans always called the peak, even in the "Mount McKinley" years, but...um...uh...OMG! OBAMA IS A MUZZLIM!!1!!.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,611 posts)After all, Denali had been the name for a lot longer than McKinley.
Phooey.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)Just pointing out another example of GOP hackneyed double standards and canned poutrage
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,611 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)the area between Gates of the Arctic NP and the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, to hear this wonderful news about Denali, the Great One. I hear Boehner is really upset about it, as if President McKinley from Ohio had anything at all to do with Alaska. What a putz.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)rather than simply render all those globes and maps obsolete.
That's just me though.
MADem
(135,425 posts)under the impact of climate change is just such a waste of time. According to you, all POTUS was on about was changing "globes and maps."
Good grief.
That's not just me, though--that's the White House:
Anchorage, Alaska (CNN)To hear the White House describe Alaska, the state has become the canary in the climate change coal mine, complete with raging wildfires, accelerating ice melt in the arctic, vanishing glaciers and whole villages forced to relocate away from rising seas.
President Barack Obama will carry that urgent message to Alaska this week in the hopes his long journey away from his busy agenda in Washington will begin to change the national conversation on global warming.
His first step while he's there: officially renaming the country's tallest mountain from Mt. McKinley to Denali, an historic nod to the region's native population, which the White House says is under threat from the already-present threat of climate change.
"This is all real. This is happening to our fellow Americans right now," Obama said in his weekly address Saturday.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/30/politics/obama-alaska-denali-climate-change/
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)The People already called it what they wanted to call it. Please tell me what this did to change the future in any material way.
Thanks in advance.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Your "My Way or the Highway" approach to things isn't shared by most.
Sorry, "the people" were calling it McKinley until the POTUS corrected the error.
And playing the "Duhhh, I don't understand symbolic actions" card isn't a clever move at all--not sure why you're so pleased with yourself, affecting that attitude, but knock yourself out, now.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"The People already called it what they wanted to call it."
What specifically leads you to make that allegation?
MADem
(135,425 posts)The proposal actually originated with the native people of Alaska and was expressed through the two (REPUBLICAN) senators from that state. The White House didn't object to the change, but they did not initiate it, either...but hey--it's OBAMA'S fault, no matter what!! That's the "Go-To" gripe here, these days!!
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/244583-obama-administration-does-not-object-to-potential-mount-mckinley
arcane1
(38,613 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)but I'd draw the line at things that the person had absolutely nothing to do with.
Now, if McKinley had actually had a hand in putting that enormous peak there...
Only one exception comes to mind:
Wilms
(26,795 posts)...but it didn't pass.
'George W Bush Sewage Plant' Proposed In San Francisco
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/02/george-w-bush-sewage-plan_n_94601.html
tecelote
(5,122 posts)Each fracking disaster and oil spill should be named after politicians.
Let's give credit where credit is due.
No President or politician ever created a mountain. But disasters are their forte.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)in Iraq, The George W. Bush Memorial Passage in Afghanistan, and the Ronald Reagan Memorial Bread Lines from coast to coast.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)It's been the Khyber Pass gong back past recorded history in the region and is historically important long before even the birth of the prophet, let alone the Taliban, Al Qaeda or George W. Bush.
Now...if you wanted to rename the individual caves after Bush-era war criminals, most of those caves don't have names and there are about 10,000...so there are plenty to go around.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)skippercollector
(206 posts)Was there this much discussion and discord among politicians and the general public when the entire park was renamed Denali in 1975? If there was, I'm afraid I don't remember it.
If not, why is renaming the mountain such a problem now?
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)killing two birds with one stone, I guess.