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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 11:50 AM Sep 2015

Same-sex couple denied Kentucky marriage license file contempt motion against Rowan County clerk -

AND

Kentucky clerk and her deputies who won't issue marriage licenses called to federal hearing Thursday - @AP

Both from breaking news a bit ago.

So here is the recap for you latecomers:

Last month,
American Civil Liberties Union of Kentucky files lawsuit on behalf of 4 couples after Rowan County clerk refuses to provide marriage licenses to any couple in county citing 'religious concerns'

19 Days ago:
Kentucky clerk defies federal judge's order, turns away gay couple seeking marriage license -

14 days ago:
Judge gives Kentucky clerk time to appeal before issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples -

5 days ago:
-judge panel denies Rowan County, Ky., clerk's request for stay in marriage license case;, stay expired aug. 3

5 days ago
Kentucky clerk denies marriage license to same-sex couple for 3rd time

4 days ago:
Clerk who denied same-sex marriage license in Morehead, Ky., temporarily shuts office for 'computer upgrades'

3 days ago:
Kentucky clerk asks Supreme Court to stop ruling over same-sex marriage licenses from taking effect -

2 days ago:
Rowan County, Ky., clerk closes office ahead of gay rights protest that attacks her refusal to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples

16 hours ago:
Supreme Court denies Kentucky clerk's same-sex marriage case; clerk ordered to issue licenses despite religion

aaaand..
3 hours ago:
Kentucky county clerk refusing to issue marriage licenses 'under God's authority' to same-sex couples despite Supreme Court ruling

and we are back at the top of this post with the latest headlines.

A treat for those of you who read this whole thing.
video of the clerk explaining her apparently logical reason for defying voters, her elected county job, a Federal Judge and the Supreme Court:

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/kentucky-same-sex-marriage/



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Same-sex couple denied Kentucky marriage license file contempt motion against Rowan County clerk - (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Sep 2015 OP
We are dealing with a child, we have about 25 million children in adults bodies, aka teaparty randys1 Sep 2015 #1
The ACLU is on it, plus the court systems who do not like to be ignored. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2015 #2
Excellent!!! I also think she's unbalanced! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2015 #3
There ya go...movie of the week! GREAT idea! It could be made in such a way randys1 Sep 2015 #5
Some County Clerks vastly overrate their importance. Downwinder Sep 2015 #4
They are glorified paper pushers and this clerk IMO is over paid. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2015 #6
Especially in KY Cirque du So-What Sep 2015 #7
This is shining a spotlight on that. yardwork Sep 2015 #8
Georgia has 159 counties.... dixiegrrrrl Sep 2015 #9
I did not know that Cirque du So-What Sep 2015 #10
According to what I have read here and elsewhere, she can and will be personally liable. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2015 #11
So the funds she will get, for sure, from the other haters, will be seizable? Makes sense randys1 Sep 2015 #12
I'm wondering how quick those funds can be seized. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2015 #15
And hand that money over to a now married Gay couple. I hate to say it but the bigots need randys1 Sep 2015 #16
Can you link to that OP? I'd like to read it. Thanks. Sheldon Cooper Sep 2015 #13
Found it! I was looking earlier Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2015 #17
Thanks, I'll take a look at it. Sheldon Cooper Sep 2015 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Sheldon Cooper Sep 2015 #13
Just a reminder... Behind the Aegis Sep 2015 #19

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. We are dealing with a child, we have about 25 million children in adults bodies, aka teaparty
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 11:52 AM
Sep 2015

She needs to be dealt with in such a way that the shame and the FINANCIAL cost to her will make other children in adult bodies think twice before acting like a child.

Is there ANY legal way to get to HER financially?

Any lawyers here?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
2. The ACLU is on it, plus the court systems who do not like to be ignored.
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 11:58 AM
Sep 2015

Plus the couple who have repeatedly been denied may have grounds for a suit, toss in emotional durress, etc.
and it promises to be an interesting lil tale, soon to be a major motion picture, I bet.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
5. There ya go...movie of the week! GREAT idea! It could be made in such a way
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 12:11 PM
Sep 2015

to be required viewing in 8th grade or something.

Teach our children right and wrong.

Cirque du So-What

(25,932 posts)
7. Especially in KY
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 12:23 PM
Sep 2015

KY has 120 counties - more than any state other than TX, which has the sheer size and population to justify so many counties. KY has some counties with fewer than 10,000 residents. It creates lots of opportunities for elected officials to treat their counties like their personal fiefdoms.

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
8. This is shining a spotlight on that.
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 12:29 PM
Sep 2015

I'm not sure that the impact of this will be what the bible thumpers hope. Editorials and comments in the Lexington, KY paper are overwhelmingly opposed to this clerk's grandstanding.

The message from the people in her own state is - "Do your job."

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
9. Georgia has 159 counties....
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 12:52 PM
Sep 2015

So, highest # of counties in US =Texas has 254, Georgia 159 and Kentucky 120.

says der Google

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,326 posts)
11. According to what I have read here and elsewhere, she can and will be personally liable.
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 01:08 PM
Sep 2015

Civil rights violations means she is working without an immunity net.

DUer jberryhill (an attorney) published an OP on the subject. In short, she is fucked. And they can get attorney fees and punitive damages.

This is why I think she should be locked up. Others say not to make her a gofundme martyr in jail. I say it would be beyond delicious to seize all those dumbfuck-donations to pay the punitive damages and ACLU attorney fees.

"1983" civil rights suits allow for attorney fees to be paid by the defendant.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
12. So the funds she will get, for sure, from the other haters, will be seizable? Makes sense
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 01:53 PM
Sep 2015

She will draw millions from the haters, I bet

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,326 posts)
15. I'm wondering how quick those funds can be seized.
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 01:58 PM
Sep 2015

I'm wondering how long it would take to garnish the account if the suit is merely pending. At the very least, I would hope the judge could lock up the funds if she is under an active contempt ruling and fines are piling up.

Nothing would be sweeter than to see mouth breathing bigots pay directly to her fines and plaintiff attorney fees and punitive damages.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
16. And hand that money over to a now married Gay couple. I hate to say it but the bigots need
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 02:01 PM
Sep 2015

to be shamed and in a big way.

I was listening to "choice" advocates of a new organization who said it is time for Gay people to stop apologizing for being Gay, for Women to stop apologizing for wanting to make decisions over their own bodies, etc.

I myself used to refer to abortion as something nobody wants but is necessary.

I was wrong, nobody wants or not wants a broken leg to be set and fixed by a surgeon, it is a no brainer. You dont ask yourself is this a good or bad thing to do.

Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #11)

Behind the Aegis

(53,955 posts)
19. Just a reminder...
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 02:23 PM
Sep 2015

...there are those who will make our victory sour and will keep us tied up in the courts for years. G-d help us if the Republicans get back in power. It won't be a matter of us going under the bus, but rather being dragged by it!

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