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cali

(114,904 posts)
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 04:37 PM Sep 2015

I can't imagine votng for someone with absolutely no experience in government

for president. And neither, it would appear, can most democrats. The republicans ways seem to become infatuated with these types. They believe this puerile crap that a businessman is uniquely qualified to lead the country despite not knowing jack about the intricacies of of Congress and the administrative branch. Sure a president can appoint people to his staff and cabinet who are well versed in these areas, but if that person has no government experience he/she is still at a huge disadvantage.

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Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
1. but on the other hand the people that know the system fail to do their job
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 04:42 PM
Sep 2015

they are more concerned with filling their pockets

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,691 posts)
2. This is a pet peeve of mine with respect to a lot of people
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 04:45 PM
Sep 2015

(mainly GOPers and Libertarian types) who think that having run a business qualifies a person to "run" a country (notwithstanding tRump's business bankruptcies and Fiorina's destruction of Hewlitt-Packard). It's not just that people with no experience in government don't know the details of how it works; it's that they seem to think they can make things happen simply by ordering them done. But a president is nothing like a CEO. A CEO can command the underlings to operate the corporation in a certain way, but a president has to deal with Congress, the court system, foreign governments, and his/her own political party. If, God help us, tRump were to become president, I think he would be in for a big surprise. And then there's Ben Carson, who seems to think that having been a surgeon qualifies him to be president because medical school is really hard. He's already demonstrated that he is completely clueless about the workings of government - evenbasic high school civics material seems to be foreign to him - but apparently being a Really Smart Doctor and a good pal of Jesus makes up for all of that.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
3. It's a pet peeve of mine, as well, because there's more to government than just business.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 04:47 PM
Sep 2015

But even giving credence to the idiots who think business people are qualified, how do they justify Trump when he's declared bankruptcy FOUR times!!!

Isn't bankruptcy a business "failure"???!!!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,691 posts)
6. Exactly. And Fiorina drove HP right into the ground,
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 04:54 PM
Sep 2015

causing it to lose 70% of its value in 3 years, and laying off 30,000 employees. If you want a CEO as president, at least find a competent one.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
12. And nobody ever brings that up.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 05:15 PM
Sep 2015

I've never seen a bigger bunch of clowns running for president ever. And what does it say that this is apparently what people want? They cheer people like Trump and Fiorina.

Fiorina absolutely ruined HP, so she wants her next gig to the Prez. Makes sense to me.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
4. True but those with government experience got us
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 04:50 PM
Sep 2015

here to where we are today which is a mess. Yes republicans can be blamed but democratic politicians are not exactly innocent in it too.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
5. Trump has never worked an actual day in his life, were he to become president, we would be
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 04:51 PM
Sep 2015

in big trouble the way we were with W.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
9. Well, there is no constitutional prerequisite for experience
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 05:07 PM
Sep 2015

All the constitution cares about is if you are a natural-born citizen and at least 35 years of age.

They believed that if they put in requirements for experience it will lead to an elite class of politicians that act more for the benefit of themselves (which we have sort of ended up with anyway). But America is supposed to be a government by the people, for the people.

The most qualified person doesn't always win either. Hillary had MUCH more experience than Obama. And McCain had much more experience than Obama too. But Obama beat both of them. Certainly not the only election that kind of thing has happened either where the most experienced candidate loses. So how important is experience to the average voter?...probably not very much. People base their votes on ideas, principle, and having a vision for the future. People want a president that has leadership qualities.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
10. Like Huffington?
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 05:08 PM
Sep 2015

I can't recall his name...the gay guy married to Ariana, elected as a rep with no experience, almost unseated DiFi in 1994 during that repuke wave, mainly because of Arianna's nasty campaign that she ran...never could stomach her and I'm glad now that she made a fortune fleecing the left to think she was on their side, she's out of the picture.

Bucky

(54,013 posts)
15. Doing the job requires compromise & consensus building. Getting the job requires marketing skills.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 05:40 PM
Sep 2015

It's at the core of our government's disconnect.

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