Oh yeah! Davis's attorney ...goes to the Hindu argument.

[underpants]

Davis' attorney Roger Gannam said that this is the first time in history that an American has been jailed for believing in their conscience.

3:41 p.m. Time.com on the Davis case:

"Suppose the Rowan County Clerk was a devout Hindu. It would not be permissible to force her to eat beef at an office function, for that would violate the Hindu taboo on harming cows. But that official would not be allowed to refuse to issue a marriage license to a couple with plans to serve beef at their wedding reception, nor could a Hindu official deny a construction permit just because the building is intended to be a steakhouse."

[gratuitous]

1. Roger Gannam is apparently A Idiot

Has he ever heard of Mohammed Ali?

[underpants]

3. Thoreau?

Hell he invented civil disobedience.

[mnhtnbb]

17. Ali never served jail time, although he was sentenced to 5 years. He was on bail while appeals

were pending all the way to the Supreme Court.

But thousands of other CO's have been jailed in this country.

[yuiyoshida]

2. This is making me dizzy

[Xipe Totec]

4. I feel her pain. I was denied a scholarship to Julliard just because I can't read music

Or play an instrument.

Or carry a tune.

Totally unfair.

[underpants]

5. LOL

[closeupready]

11. Yup. Textbook example of discrimination you have there. SO not fair.

[olddots]

6. there is a cow joke here somewhere

[RKP5637]

7. Clearly F'ed up in the head! n/t

[randys1]

8. I usually defend attorneys no matter how absurd they may seem, because their job is to

represent their client no matter what.

And his argument here makes no sense, at all.

I cant find the connection to this case to his example.

I am simply unable to figure it out, and I think he cant figure it out either and has NO defense AT ALL so he came up with this nonsense.

[jberryhill]

10. I think in the rush of things, the attribution is messed up

...since that is an argument for the plaintiffs in this case, and not the defendants.

[beac]

19. Thank you. That was breaking my brain.

Now we'll have to see if the reporter is a bad transcriber or the lawyer is a complete idiot.

[Angry Dragon]

9. first he uses Jews and Nazis and now he talks of Hindus

when it boils down to her oath of office

[LostOne4Ever]

12. That guys law school's accreditation should be revoked

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]There are so many things wrong with that analogy[/font]

1) Eating beef is not an essential part of her job
2) If it was a part of her job not eating beef affects no one but her
3) Not eating beefs does not force her beliefs on others
4) Not eating beef does not deny others their fundamental rights
5) There has been no SCotUS ruling on eating beef...

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]Religious nuts arguments just get dumber and dumber.[/font]

[Iggo]

14. Oh...so...THIS.

[rocktivity]

13. Well, duh -- of course forcing Hindus to eat beef on the job is wrong

because in America, you're not supposed to have someone else's religious views thrust upon you. However, by refusing to issue marriage certificates for religious reasons, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HIS CLIENT IS DOING.

It is none of the clerk's business what ANYONE plans to serve at their wedding. And if the steakhouse is in a vicinity where enough people believe that eating beef is objectionable, or that the steak it serves isn't worth eating, Mr. Davis can rest assured that they will be out of business soon enough.

Public servants are in the business of serving the public -- ALL the public, not the segments of it they find most appealing -- or profitable.


rocktivity

[mnhtnbb]

15. Uh, no. Thousands of Americans have been jailed as conscientous objectors when refusing to go to war

This guy is really an ignorant, bigoted, moron. Good grief.

The New York Peace Society, founded in 1815 by David Low Dodge, was the first official peace society in America, but the true story of pacifism should begin with certain Native Americans who wished to live in peace. Since then, hundreds of peace groups and thousands of individuals have worked to promote peace and work against war, violence and injustice, following the voice of their consciences -- sometimes to the point of persecution and imprisonment. This page is intended as only a brief introduction to the historical setting for the topic of conscientious objection to war. More information should be sought from the links offered on other pages, as well as secondary published sources available from many libraries.


http://www.swarthmore.edu/library/peace/conscientiousobjection/co%20website/pages/HistoryNew.htm

[markpkessinger]

16. This NY Times comment answers Gannam's argument pretty decisively, I think

Last edited Thu Sep 3, 2015, 06:24 PM - Edit history (1)

DT New York 3 hours ago

I am an Orthodox Jew. I can't eat milk and meat together as per my own personal beliefs. But if I were a county clerk, and someone wanted to open up a cheeseburger joint, I'd have absolutely zero right as a government official to deny that person his permit on the grounds of the rules of my religion.

[LostOne4Ever]

18. PERFECT! nt

[scarletwoman]

20. It's the Chewbacca Defense!

[underpants]

22. Yes!

That's exactly what I thought of.

[dorkzilla]

26. me too!

I can find something relevant in everyday life that calls to mind either South Park or Monty Python.

[steve2470]

21. If I was an attorney, specifically Mr. Gannam, I'd be ashamed to make that argument

Attorneys are supposed to be intelligent and logical in their arguments. That argument, as well as the Nazi one, makes no sense whatsoever.

Paging his law school, revoke his diploma ASAP.

[underpants]

23. University of Florida

Via LinkedIn. Can't copy and paste for some reason.

[steve2470]

24. 1999 graduate of UF Law School

https://www.linkedin.com/in/rogergannam

[underpants]

25. Thanks

[Trajan]

27. Simple False Analogy ...

Happens all the time ...

[betsuni]

28. Holy cow.