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She likens her reliance on the toy to her alcohol addiction; both, she writes, made her life unmanageable. Im not going to argue that someone continue doing something that makes them feel bad about themselves, but there are disturbing implications in Michaels piece.
According to Carlyle Jansen, author of masturbation how-to book Sex Yourself and founder/sex coach at Toronto sex toy store Good For Her, the first thing we need to look at is the definition of addiction. She cited Wikipedias: a state characterized by compulsive engagement in rewarding stimuli, despite adverse consequences. Compulsive might mean a womans repeatedly late to work cause shes too busy vibing it up, or wants to stay home rather than go out with friends, á la the rabbit vibe episode of Sex and the City, where Charlotte defends herself, saying, its a vibrator; its not like its crack.
Jansen says its natural to get used to using a toy, like Michaels did, because nothing simply human can compare to the RPM of most vibrators. That doesnt mean shes addicted. Another possible explanation? It might be that shed get frustrated when her fingers didnt get the same response, explained Jansen. When we get frustrated or anxious, our bodies shift into fight or flight response and the blood flows out and away from the erectile tissue. Without the blood in the area, it becomes harder to orgasm, which leads to more frustration. Then again, a woman may simply be wired to like that type of stimulation. Some of us need glasses to see, others need calculators in order to do math. Some of us need a vibrator to orgasm, said Jansen.
One of the biggest problems with Michaels framing is that vibrators are presumed to be lesser than, and therefore, somehow shameful to use on a long-term basis. She pits vibrator use against partnered sex, approvingly quoting Dr. Gilda Carle, who told her, Use of a vibrator is momentarily satisfying. But it doesnt answer the need for a partner to hold you, converse with you, commiserate with you, and love you. Of course a vibrator isnt going to provide the same sort of emotional support as a human being, but that doesnt mean the two are at oddsor that they cant be combined. By judging herself harshly, Michaels inhibits herself from fully enjoying her toy.
http://www.salon.com/2015/09/05/on_becoming_addicted_to_your_vibrator_partner/
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)...
Oh you knew it was coming.
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c-c-combo
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)you really want to put up the pun-signal and get pinboy involved in this thread? You think that's a good idea?
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)who cares? But something about it seems sad to me.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)Everyone feels and experiences in vastly different ways. What works for one doesn't work for another for a whole host of psychological and physiological reasons.
Saying that it's kind of sad says more about you than them.
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Tipperary
(6,930 posts)No offense to anyone was intended.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)sexually warrant feeling sad or anything else? I don't get it.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)But otherwise, "sad"? That's ridiculous. Life is short. If technology makes someone's existence better, hey, go for it.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Your response is the same as "I'm not a racist, but.."
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)"Bob" doesn't treat me poorly.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)roody
(10,849 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)And why would it be sad to use a tool?
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)I have many friends who have had difficulty in enjoying sex because of society's making them feel as though it is not something to be enjoyed. I was not judging the women and I phrased my post very poorly. I meant it is sad that it is so difficult for some women to enjoy sex because of the repressive attitudes toward women doing just that. The women who have told me of their difficulty tell me how they were shamed as young women for even thinking about sex. A "toy" was the first thing they could enjoy without feeling judged. I am still probably phrasing this wrong, but many women have problems with sexual satisfaction because of how they were raised (religion, repressive parents, societal mores, etc. THAT is what makes me sad.
Again I did not intend to judge or offend anyone here and my apologies for my poor posting skills.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)many people use them because they enjoy them, not because they have difficulty enjoying sex, or "need" them, but just because it feels good. Men and women.
For others with more difficulty achieving sexual satisfaction, they can be a great help.
roody
(10,849 posts)I like that.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)conversation here and she said the exact same thing!
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)But that's life. I've gotten older and the hormones aren't working as great.
bleh
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)We are discussing vibrating recliner massage type chairs?
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 7, 2015, 12:35 AM - Edit history (1)
There's only so much you can do with a chair, but...
ah, I've said too much.
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CTyankee
(63,911 posts)It sounds awfully judgmental about women who want to have more pleasure with sex. Is that some kind of crime?
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)Seems like something for individuals to decide for themselves, really. Uff da!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)to free themselves from the insidious hooks of the vibrator industry.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)It's your call.
Unfortunately we have our own finger wagging moralists on our "side" of the aisle. I guess people need things to do with their fingers.
TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)...Yeah, that works too.
TYY
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I would be lying through my teeth.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)what women do with dildos is not something I give much thought to. Why is this shit on DU?
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)"hide the thread"
merrily
(45,251 posts)sarisataka
(18,627 posts)Hint guys- use of a toy can make your job much easier and result in a very satisfied partner
and I guess it your persuasion isn't one man, one woman it won't hurt to give it a whirl
1939
(1,683 posts)New USMC program
Demeter
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marym625
(17,997 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)It's things like the alert that have sent feminism backwards.
merrily
(45,251 posts)People need to laugh more. It's healthy for mind and body.
marym625
(17,997 posts)It's a maryly thing Or marily?
merrily
(45,251 posts)I'm easy.
That's just another marily thing
merrily
(45,251 posts)Before anyone alerts, I'm kidding. I know it, marym knows it. (If she didn't know it, the smilies are a tip off.)
Then again, go ahead, alert. Maybe someone will pm me with the jury results. (I love to laugh.)
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Call the laugh police, i laughed.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Or off on?
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)the vibrator becoming addicted to us..
YES, I am being silly..
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Ten million Trump supporters seem addicted to their dildo.
marym625
(17,997 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)More power to her, and her vibe.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I roomed with four women once. And we would get high and "race" their vibrators down the hardwood hallway. complete with bets.
merrily
(45,251 posts)If your addiction interferes with the rest of your life, it could be a problem.
treestar
(82,383 posts)converse with you, commiserate etc. In fact aren't we often told sex and love are completely different things? And you can't always find someone to love. That doctor is dumb.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Okay, fine, maybe the number is made up, but I'm sure there are a few.
Orrex
(63,203 posts)This marks my one-thousandth use of that fine joke.
Thank you, thank you.
alarimer
(16,245 posts)And that, unfortunately, is far more common than anyone would admit.
They either don't know how or can't be bothered to take care of their partners.
Heidi
(58,237 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]
OxQQme
(2,550 posts)$3,500 for a vibrator?
snip> If the company is successful, theyll have helped the vibrator restore its reputation, returning it to its status as a common household object. Only this time, the women buying their vibrators from the modern-day equivalent of the Sears catalog wont need to be coy about what, exactly, theyre purchasing. And that, ultimately, is the most important cultural shift of all.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/28/11313512/new-jimmyjane-livesexy-intro-2-6-vibrators-ceo-interview