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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 06:38 PM Sep 2015

Ousted as Gay, Aging Veterans Are Battling Again for Honorable Discharges

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/07/us/gay-veterans-push-for-honorable-discharges-they-were-denied.html

COLUMBUS, Ohio — When the Army discharged Pvt. Donald Hallman in 1955 for being what it called a “Class II homosexual,” the 21-year-old was so scared of being an outcast that he burned all his military records, save for a single dog tag he hid away.

Mr. Hallman, a coal miner’s son who sang in a church choir in rural Alabama, says he never mentioned his military service again. He married a woman he had met at work, had children and wore a suit and tie to work each day.

“I hid it because it would have ruined my life,” Mr. Hallman said in an interview at his home here.

But this summer, Mr. Hallman, now 82, retrieved the dog tag from a keepsake box and began working through an application to the Department of Defense, asking that his decades-old discharge be upgraded from “undesirable” to “honorable.”
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Ousted as Gay, Aging Veterans Are Battling Again for Honorable Discharges (Original Post) steve2470 Sep 2015 OP
Can someone explain the cryptic "Class II homosexual"? . . . Journeyman Sep 2015 #1
The difference wasn't mentioned in the article GP6971 Sep 2015 #2
That would make sense, from a military point of view . . . Journeyman Sep 2015 #6
Your welcome. GP6971 Sep 2015 #8
KNR. FYI this was posted earlier today though. DirkGently Sep 2015 #3
This is a very important story! KICK! RECOMMEND! HuckleB Sep 2015 #4
This needs to be a priority and it needs to be streamlined Lee-Lee Sep 2015 #5
It's been in Congress (legistralation to grant upgraded discharges) GP6971 Sep 2015 #7

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
1. Can someone explain the cryptic "Class II homosexual"? . . .
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 06:58 PM
Sep 2015

I don't want to go to the NY Times site just to learn some military idiocy.

GP6971

(31,141 posts)
2. The difference wasn't mentioned in the article
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:04 PM
Sep 2015

But if recall correctly, class I involved violence and Class II was nonviolent participation in homosexual activities.

GP6971

(31,141 posts)
8. Your welcome.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:49 PM
Sep 2015

Had to look it up myself after I posted my reply......and that's the criteria according to Wiki.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
5. This needs to be a priority and it needs to be streamlined
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:23 PM
Sep 2015

Because if it is left to the usual VA bureaucracy most of them won't live to see it happen, much less be able to use any of the benefits they have thus far been denied.

GP6971

(31,141 posts)
7. It's been in Congress (legistralation to grant upgraded discharges)
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 11:48 PM
Sep 2015

since 2013 with little possiility of passing yet alone being voted on. Republicans doing what they do best, obstruct.

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