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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 12:23 AM Sep 2015

For $380 a month, this 23-year-old lives on trains instead of renting

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/10/1420182/-For-380-a-month-this-23-year-old-lives-on-trains-instead-of-renting

A young German woman, Leonie Müller, lives on trains. Not a specific train. Just any train she decides to get on when it's time for her to go to bed.

The German college student gave up her apartment in spring. "It all started with a dispute I had with my landlord," Müller told The Washington Post via e-mail. "I instantly decided I didn't want to live there anymore — and then I realized: Actually, I didn't want to live anywhere anymore."

Instead, she bought a subscription that allows her to board every train in the country free. Now, Müller washes her hair in the train bathroom and writes her college papers while traveling at a speed of up to 190 mph. She says that she enjoys the liberty she has experienced since she gave up her apartment. "I really feel at home on trains and can visit so many more friends and cities. It's like being on vacation all the time," Müller said.


She doesn't live entirely on trains in a completely lone wolf, hobo of yesteryear fashion.

Müller frequently travels late at night, although she tries to sleep at the apartments of relatives or friends. Often, she is accommodated by her boyfriend, her mother or grandmother.

"Normally, we would have to have a long-distance relationship, but living on a train enables me to see him all the time," Müller told German TV station SWR regarding her boyfriend. "Most of my friends really like the idea, although some consider it to be quite adventurous. Others, however, have reacted more negatively: They feel offended by the fact that I question the ordinary way of life and living."

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For $380 a month, this 23-year-old lives on trains instead of renting (Original Post) eridani Sep 2015 OP
More power to her. peace13 Sep 2015 #1
A cool way to live, but what do you do with your stuff MiniMe Sep 2015 #2
I wish her the best of luck during her temporary journey alcibiades_mystery Sep 2015 #3
There are a whole lot of things that are unsustainable Aerows Sep 2015 #11
"When she grows up and sees it's not sustainable" Scootaloo Sep 2015 #13
she sleeps on someone else's dime... nt msongs Sep 2015 #4
Horrors. Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #5
Did you read where it says she pays? a la izquierda Sep 2015 #10
ROFLMAO. Brickbat Sep 2015 #20
Who is paying her way? lunatica Sep 2015 #29
What? Our trans. authority would LOVE $380/mo. Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #30
Knowing you are a Christian Trajan Sep 2015 #33
not likely in Germany. Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #35
What does she do for income? drm604 Sep 2015 #6
It says she's in college.....so maybe she has a scholarship? CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2015 #7
German universities are free. Kber Sep 2015 #16
For Everyone. You don't even have to be German. hunter Sep 2015 #38
Only works if you cn get a cheap rail pass. McCamy Taylor Sep 2015 #8
The USA still has some boxcar accommodations available. NBachers Sep 2015 #9
I wish I could do that. LuvNewcastle Sep 2015 #12
Meh - "a small backpack" cannot contain all her basics muriel_volestrangler Sep 2015 #14
True. LuvNewcastle Sep 2015 #15
"but you can't fit all your college documents in there too" BumRushDaShow Sep 2015 #17
What about the books? LuvNewcastle Sep 2015 #18
Absolutely many of the books are electronic BumRushDaShow Sep 2015 #19
I was thinking that chem and a lot of LuvNewcastle Sep 2015 #22
You are right on point about considering "taking some courses" BumRushDaShow Sep 2015 #23
Well, I guess you told her. Brickbat Sep 2015 #21
I'm 'telling' the media not to get excited about a young woman couchsurfing muriel_volestrangler Sep 2015 #24
I kept my stuff in a university locker and showered at the university... hunter Sep 2015 #39
It sounds more like she's "staying with friends" and occasionally sleeps on trains. ScreamingMeemie Sep 2015 #25
The story is less intriguing when you get to the part where she cui bono Sep 2015 #26
Well, she's a student. I don't think it's so bad. I lived with my parents during college summers Arugula Latte Sep 2015 #37
For $380 a month, this 23-year-old sleeps on people's couches Codeine Sep 2015 #27
$380 gets me coach to Florida and waves of flatulence. Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #32
It's not refreshing that Internetizens can find something nasty to say about this story Facility Inspector Sep 2015 #28
+1,000,000 .... Trajan Sep 2015 #34
You really want a laugh? matt819 Sep 2015 #31
I think that's a great idea. Arugula Latte Sep 2015 #36
it's great she figured out how to live cheaply without bothering anyone Liberal_in_LA Sep 2015 #41
An aunt of mine realized the cheapest cruise cabins are cheaper than a retirement home Recursion Sep 2015 #40
I did that for a month in college. Ms. Toad Sep 2015 #42
 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
1. More power to her.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 12:30 AM
Sep 2015

Young people have a lot of energy! I would think that bathing would be the biggest issue.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
3. I wish her the best of luck during her temporary journey
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 12:43 AM
Sep 2015

When she grows up and sees it's not sustainable, I wish her luck wit that stage of her journey as well.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
11. There are a whole lot of things that are unsustainable
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 04:33 AM
Sep 2015

Millions of young people scraping by, millions of former middle class folks that have been hit seven ways to Sunday, while Wall Street continues to rake it in.

I suspect she doesn't do this entirely because she wants to, I suspect she is doing it because she has too.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
13. "When she grows up and sees it's not sustainable"
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 05:07 AM
Sep 2015

I'm curious. How old are you and how much money do you make?

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,614 posts)
7. It says she's in college.....so maybe she has a scholarship?
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 01:18 AM
Sep 2015

Maybe she saved her money from some job or other so she could do this.

Dunno!

I think it's great, what she's doing.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
12. I wish I could do that.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 04:59 AM
Sep 2015

I don't have to have a big apartment, but I've got to have some kind of a refuge. This woman is very creative, though, and I hope she's able to get by until she finds work. Maybe this is the beginning of a career in the rail business.

She could probably think of a lot of ways to bring work and travel together and make it an interesting experience. It's something for the travel industry to consider. There are a lot of people who work from home nowadays, and it could be a great experience to travel for a month while working at the same time. Most people say they would like to travel more.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,312 posts)
14. Meh - "a small backpack" cannot contain all her basics
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 06:34 AM
Sep 2015

it holds "clothes, her tablet computer, college documents and a sanitary bag". Anyone who has backpacked knows a small backpack severely limits the number of clothes you can use. Perhaps she's chosen to do that, but you can't fit all your college documents in there too. She's keeping them somewhere else, and that's where she lives. Or where she showers. And if she tries to sleep elsewhere, then she's not living on the train. She's couchsurfing.

BumRushDaShow

(128,944 posts)
17. "but you can't fit all your college documents in there too"
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 08:42 AM
Sep 2015

Much of schooling today is all-electronic - textbooks, class assignments, "papers" (essays) and other "homework" that are turned in, exams, library access for electronic book checkout, etc. Hell, back in the late '70s when I was in college, we all had an account on the school mainframe. One of my young nieces just started school this week with an online account for school assignments and a chromebook for class (this is elementary school). The little ones obviously still use paper in class, but for college, so much is online now and anything "paper" needing submission and/or archiving can be scanned via a tablet or cell phone app and uploaded and/or stored on a USB stick (and the paper discarded).

Bills are electronic, mail is electronic, purchases (even micro-purchases) can be done via debit or credit card (including electronic signatures), cell phones have replaced landlines, music is electronic, "television" and/or movies are electronic (via streaming), photos are electronic, etc.. Basically anything that one might store in a home other than the "basics" of food, clothing, toiletries, furniture, is in the ether. And all but the (big) furniture can be purchased as you go along (there are portable fold-up stools available). The one biggie for that generation is keeping their devices charged, and apparently all over Europe (and in slowly increasing cases here in the U.S. in certain cities), there are USB charging kiosks all over the place (for a fee).

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
18. What about the books?
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 08:58 AM
Sep 2015

Do they buy electronic books? Ereaders wouldn't suffice for all the books. Some texts just don't lend themselves well to that format. I could see history, literature, and such being downloaded to ereaders, but not chemistry, for instance. I left college about 25 years ago, and I wrote all of my papers out longhand. Today's colleges must be interesting. Sounds like they should be a lot less expensive than they are.

BumRushDaShow

(128,944 posts)
19. Absolutely many of the books are electronic
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 09:36 AM
Sep 2015

And they can either be "bought" or "rented" (believe it or not - something I read about regarding textbooks) or "lent" (as in a library). And it is literally growing daily as older texts are scanned into electronic format. Almost every major library has electronic "lending" of books. I have made use of Guttenberg online books (I believe all are public-domain). And Google has expended some major resources towards making books available in electronic format online.

As someone with a chemistry degree, why is an electronic chemistry textbook a non-starter? If anything, the whole text could be enhanced with imbedded animation (or even videos) of reactions, orbitals, electromagnetic interactions, etc. E.g., something like this just for basic chem classes (without the music )



Hell, I hated p-chem but I could see how animated visualizations would have greatly enhanced the static images and droning voices of my professors (e.g., basically a whole semester summarized in less than 4 1/2 minutes without the integral calculus)!



There is friggin' so much out here in terms of informational resources that it makes me furious when I see millennials and younger squandering the internet for something that they can just turn on the tv or radio for and not have to go travel to a library, pull out a card catalog, figure out the dewey decimal system, go find a shelf, and then dig for a book that in many cases is not available!

Edit to add - When I was in college, I took a Music Appreciation course. We had to buy a set of records (I think there were 10 or 12 in the set - I still have the box of records), and then either use your own "portable" player to listen to assigned songs and/or go to the school's music rooms where turntables and headphones were available (first come, first served) to listen to your music homework assignments. Of course that required "keeping the records somewhere" (dorm room). Nowadays kids will do this to you --> when you say "records" (or reel-to-reel, or 8-track or cassette or now even CD).

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
22. I was thinking that chem and a lot of
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 09:53 AM
Sep 2015

the maths would have trouble with the problems and formulae and whatnot. I didn't know the graphics were so good! I only use my Kindle For reading and going on DU, so I haven't seen a lot of the graphics. I guess they really have gone all the way with this stuff now. I'm glad. The more information for us, the better.

Thanks for the reply. I'm looking into going back and taking some courses in things I'm interested in. You've shown me how easy it can be.

BumRushDaShow

(128,944 posts)
23. You are right on point about considering "taking some courses"
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 10:17 AM
Sep 2015

I think I have learned more researching subjects on the internet than in the standard "classroom" setting. It's like I'm learning all over again. And this is not to somehow down play the teaching profession because teachers are there to not only teach, but to guide students to learn about subject matter and how to do so in context.

Regarding math - I had to take 3 semesters of calculus and the only way I got through that 3rd semester (multi-variable) was because I had a teacher who could describe "3-D" and what all those equations were basically doing. E.g., taking say a parabola (which has an associated equation), and then "rotating it around an axis" to get a "bowl" (which adds more stuff to that equation), and then plugging in values to calculate the volume of that "bowl". Now that type of description is animated and/or on video at the click of a mouse!

I hope you enjoy the search for stuff that you've always wanted to know about!!

muriel_volestrangler

(101,312 posts)
24. I'm 'telling' the media not to get excited about a young woman couchsurfing
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 10:47 AM
Sep 2015

and using a general travel pass to move between her family and friends' homes, which is where she does most of her sleeping, must keep some belongings, and I suspect she does her clothes-washing and showering there too.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
39. I kept my stuff in a university locker and showered at the university...
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 03:58 PM
Sep 2015

... when I was living a similar kind of "rough."

The locker was absurdly inexpensive because it was in a rarely traveled part of the campus, and most of the lockers were empty. There was no real accounting of who had which locker, or when it was time to collect the ten dollar rent again. You picked a locker, gave them ten dollars, put your own lock on it, and they never bothered you again. I had that locker for a few years.

But I wasn't living on the train like this young woman, I was in the 24 hour computer lab most of the time.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
25. It sounds more like she's "staying with friends" and occasionally sleeps on trains.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 10:50 AM
Sep 2015

If she "tries to sleep at the apartments of relatives or friends," this article isn't truthful. I know, shocker.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
26. The story is less intriguing when you get to the part where she
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 12:54 PM
Sep 2015

often stays with her boyfriend, mother and grandmother. That's kind of lame considering the reason she gave of "I instantly decided I didn't want to live there anymore — and then I realized: Actually, I didn't want to live anywhere anymore." Sounds like she decided she didn't want the responsibility of bills anymore.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
37. Well, she's a student. I don't think it's so bad. I lived with my parents during college summers
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 03:25 PM
Sep 2015

and I'd guess that a big percentage of other students do as well. In Europe it's common for people to live at home until they're 30 or older.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
27. For $380 a month, this 23-year-old sleeps on people's couches
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 01:03 PM
Sep 2015

wears her clothes too many times, and often smells bad.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
34. +1,000,000 ....
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 03:01 PM
Sep 2015

All I can say is; DU is not immune to assholiness ...

(OMG - I just coined that new word ... And yes, you can use it, but remember where you heard it first!)

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
40. An aunt of mine realized the cheapest cruise cabins are cheaper than a retirement home
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 05:33 PM
Sep 2015

So she just kind of cruised in a non-window stateroom for a few years.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
42. I did that for a month in college.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 10:05 PM
Sep 2015

Hopped on a bus or train at night that was driving for about 8 hours, hopped off the next morning. At that point it was a $100 pass. I spent a couple of nights with friends, but most nights I slept on the bus.

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