EU Considers Internment Camps For Refugees

[CountAllVotes]

Among the topics being discussed by European Union ministers at an emergency session in Brussels is a proposal for the new internment of refugees fleeing war and poverty, the Guardian revealed Monday.

A four-page draft statement prepared by EU ambassadors ahead of Monday’s meeting was obtained by journalist Ian Traynor.

The document, which Traynor says is likely to receive backing from EU governments, reportedly states that “reception facilities will be organized so as to temporarily accommodate people” in Greece and Italy during their process of identification, registration, and application for asylum.

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Meanwhile, people seeking refuge are already being forced into squalid camps across Europe and the Middle East.

The Brussels meeting comes as the humanitarian response by EU states flounders in the face of the worst refugee crisis since World War II. Over the weekend, Germany—which has championed itself the leader of the humanitarian response—tightened border restrictions, cut off trains traveling from Austria, and escalated random checks on cars.

more here: http://www.mintpressnews.com/eu-considers-internment-camps-for-refugees/209516/



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How fucking sick is this exactly? Add Merkel's latest plan to start up an EU Army and gee, one might consider the idea that the EU is changing rapidly to something I care not to name!

So much for all of that fucking COMPASSION huh? That lasted for one very short week I think! No more free food for you refugees nor toys/clothing/etc. for the poor children!

[HassleCat]

1. OK, then

Maybe they should just dump them on the streets.

[CountAllVotes]

2. They closed all of the borders already

and yep, this is indeed their plan!

[polly7]

4. Why the need for fences and wire??

They could certainly set up stations with tents and food and other supplies to temporarily 'house' these people safely, while trying to come to some solutions as to where they can eventually go. I don't understand the cages - if people know they can get to a place of rest and aid, they'll go there.

[CountAllVotes]

9. The wire fences have razors on them

Try to leave and you'll die. Yep die. Is this the plan?

[polly7]

10. I think it's horrible.

These are not stupid people being chased from their countries, they know the huge problems the EU is facing wrt to their arrival and I'm sure the majority would be peaceful and grateful ......... and just, tired. They don't need razor wire. It's very sad to see that.

[CountAllVotes]

11. It is criminal IMO

and they aren't getting off the hook for this with me anyway!

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

21. Agree, the majority would be peaceful, grateful, tired.

It's the minority that gets people a bit nervous.

[yeoman6987]

3. Ok. Not great. But where do you put everyone?

It is a huge project to take on. I am sure all options are being looked at but when you have 800K coming to the city....where is the housing? It will take months to build something.

[CountAllVotes]

5. The Saudis have adequate housing available!

and no, they have not "stepped up to the plate to do their share" and no they never will.

REMEMBER 911 & WHO DID THE JOB!

[Rex]

16. There is a lot of space, some countries will not take in these war victims.

They don't need internment camps, they need an organization to help them find new homes. I read China has 64 million empty apartments...

The world could help out and not force the EU to take on all the burden.

[yeoman6987]

20. I heard China has that too, but no criticsm from the world for china

Of course the United States is criticized for everything. I guess that's our function in life.

[Rex]

23. I know I thought about that too, along with the utter silence from Saudi Arabia

and other Arab countries taking a full pass on war victims. It is unfair to force the EU to shoulder this burden imo. Yet, here we go.

[Surya Gayatri]

33. ^^^This!^^^

The world could help out and not force the EU to take on all the burden.

[CountAllVotes]

39. Exactly!

Being there are so many of them and apparently not used very often, they could donate them or even lend them to the Syrians but I guess that would be too much to considering asking for.

Same goes for these "Ghost Estates" and empty houses throughout the world, China included!

[polly7]

36. Yes, especially all of us whose govt's have chosen to (fully knowing what

the results would be) bomb the * out of them, leaving a vaccuum they knew would immediately fill with violent extremists - because we need them from time to time .......... causing much of suffering in the first place.

Why do we get away with taking in a minuscule amount while much poorer nations are expected to absorb them? The hypocrisy of it stuns me.

[LittleBlue]

6. It's a temporary camp to house refugees

Where else should they be housed? Most countries don't have spare accommodations for an influx of 800,000 in one year.

[jwirr]

7. Why use a loaded word? All over the world we have

refugee camps. Why not call them what they are? A place to live until better can be arranged.

If someone told me they were going to put me in a detention camp I would refuse to go. That in my mind is what we called the Nazi camps that held the Jews.

[CountAllVotes]

8. They are stuck

and no, they care not to go to some damn GERMAN INTERNMENT camp not that I blame them.

No more pies and cakes for you! Fuck you is what is being said to these poor people ...

Saudi's with tents just waiting with no one in them and air-conditioned at that!

Saudi Arabia Has 100,000 Empty Tents with AC for 3 Million People – They’ve Taken Zero Refugees.

Rest is in Arabic and I cannot translate it but here is a picture of the tents!

[jwirr]

12. What were these tents set up for? Who are they

supposed to house?

And yes, I agree that the Saudi's should take refugees.

[CountAllVotes]

14. No info. in English

Found this from a higher up in Saudi Arabia who wasn't happy about it one bit!

I'd like some answers too!!!

[jwirr]

18. Here is a little more info: The tents are in Mina just

a short distance from Mecca the holy city. They are used to house pilgrims going to Mecca for special holidays.

They are air conditioned and well built.

The Wikipedia article mentioned that they hold up to 100,000 people during those pilgrimages.

[Lee-Lee]

30. The Hajj kicks off in a few weeks. The well-off pilgrims who will use the tents

are evidently more important to the Saudis than all the refugees of the same faith with no place to go.

[jwirr]

31. Sounds like it. Are you sure that they are of the same

faith? There are a lot of different sects fighting each other in the ME.

If they are enemies then it would be like putting Native American tribes who were traditional enemies side by side like we did often here in the USA. It would just lead to more fighting.

[Lee-Lee]

32. The Saudis go out of their way to welcome all sects of Islam to Mecca

Sunni and Shia make the pilgrimage at the same times. They may house groups from each sect apart, but they welcome them all.

[jwirr]

37. Okay. Thanks for the info.

[Surya Gayatri]

34. These are probably "hadj" tents, set up as temporary lodging for the millions

who come to SA on pilgrimage each year.

[jwirr]

38. Yes, that is what they are. Thank you.

[Recursion]

41. It houses pilgrims during hajj (nt)

[Ichigo Kurosaki]

13. I honestly

don't blame these countries for setting up refugee camps instead of letting the influx blend into the background.

It is easier to take care of them in centralized spots and since the IS has stated that they are sending out their agents with the refugees it is better to keep them localized until they can go back home.

Some countries, such as Hungary, have had a long history with Muslim invaders and remember it well.
The Hungarians, unlike the Germans and the French spent 150+ years under Muslim domination, and they have no desire to return to those days.
The Bulgarians, Romanians, Poles, Czechs, etc all remember well what it was like to be dominated by the Ottoman Empire.
The Poles have the distinction of being the people who saved Vienna and the rest of Austria from Muslim invasion in 1683.
The man whom we now know as "Vlad the Impaler" is still a hero in Romania because he turned back the Islamic armies with his ruthless cruelty.

These are clues that eastern Europe hasn't forgotten what it meant to have the Islamic host in their lands.

This is just my opinion which I am sure I will get flamed for but such is life.

[CountAllVotes]

17. I have been to Hungary

and let me tell you something, they are a lot nicer than some of the adjacent countries and that is no bull! At least I wasn't robbed while there, something I cannot say about Austria!

[CountAllVotes]

24. yeah better than the cages they were in last week!

razor blades included!!

[MisterP]

40. the last people so obsessed with pretending to be "resisting" Islam started a genocide because

some yokel bottled himself (NSFW)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%90or%C4%91e_Martinovi%C4%87

[brooklynite]

19. Misleading photo

The photo is of Hungary building a border fence, not an internment camp.

[CountAllVotes]

22. that's right

glad you figured it out! You'll NEVER see pictures of where these poor people are being "moved" to! NEVER!

[Throd]

25. They're building secret death camps someplace?

What do you think they should do with these people?

Also, there are a bunch of reasons they aren't going to Saudi Arabia.

[mike_c]

26. like this...?

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[Bluenorthwest]

27. How many have the Gulf States taken? I hear so much about Islamic unity and brotherhood, principles

of hospitality and all but in reality they seem to expect Europe and the US to take all the Muslim refugees while they simply count their vast cash reserves.

I think all of this characterization of Europe as being so terrible is interesting considering the fact that Europe is working hard to accept them and their own fellow Arabic speakers are refusing them totally, just as they always refuse the Palestinians.

[Surya Gayatri]

35. Hear, Hear!

I think all of this characterization of Europe as being so terrible is interesting considering the fact that Europe is working hard to accept them and their own fellow Arabic speakers are refusing them totally, just as they always refuse the Palestinians.

[pampango]

28. Hungary's "Trump of Europe" orders media not to show images of refugee children

Hungary's media war on refugees
A look at the Hungarian government's handling of the crisis and why State TV was told to not show images of children.

Seeking nothing but shelter from fighting, a vast number of them have been sent to camps surrounded by chain link fencing, barbed wire and patrolled with police dogs. For journalists covering the crisis, the harrowing pictures of refugees being held in squalid campgrounds, reminiscent to Nazi concentration camps, has been dominating newspaper headlines.

Sparking debate over the Hungarian government's treatment of the refugees, Prime Minister Viktor Orban has lashed out at criticism against his rule.

According to a leaked memo, Hungary's State TV was told by a government-appointed media authority to not broadcast images of children.

An official reason given was to 'protect the children' but when the memo became public it was seen as a governmental effort to limit sympathy for the refugees. And as we all saw with the photo of three-year-old boy Aylan Kurdi, a single image really does have the power to change discourse, coverage and even policy.

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/listeningpost/2015/09/hungary-media-war-refugees-150913143421670.html

Apparently the "Trump of Europe" thinks that images of children among the refugees may generate sympathy for them and opposition to his border wall. I suspect that the real Trump would react the same way to images that weakened support for his border wall.

[Lee-Lee]

29. Saudi Arabia has room but is allowing religious reasons to keep them out

They have all those tents set up to hold pilgrims to Mecca during the Hajj.

The Hajj is set to kick off in a few weeks.

They could tell the pilgrims to stay away because they are letting the refugees use them, and that would allow all the refugees who are of the Islamic faith a chance at the once in a lifetime pilgrimage as well.

But, they choose not to. Instead the well-off members of the Islamic faith who can afford to make the pilgrimage will do so, while hoards of refugees of the same faith have no place to go and are being pushed into an increasingly unfriendly environment.

[Betty Karlson]

42. IMPORTANT CORRECTION:

The EU has no authority to establish camps, be they refugee shelters or internment camps or anything in between.

It is the Justice ministers of all EU member states who collectively, and by a substantial majority, decide to establish facilities in Greece and Italy, simply because the few European states who take in refugees cannot cope with all the demand for asylum. It then makes sense to establish something humane at the point of entry into the European Union, pending mandatory redistribution of migrants over all EU members.

The article is far from neutral.