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tandot

(6,671 posts)
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:31 PM Sep 2015

Really? ... There are about 1000 homes lost in Lake County in CA

and I don't find a post about it?

We have family and friends who lost everything ...WTF ... my in-laws lost everything ... the house they raised their 3 boys ... I am married to one of them ... a simple family raising 3 boys in a 1 bathroom and 2 bedroom house ... they struggled all their lives to pay their mortgage ... they served this country in the Navy ... and not one post about it ... we are trying to raise money for the displaced and apparently nobody gives a shit ... disgraceful


I am just disgusted.

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Really? ... There are about 1000 homes lost in Lake County in CA (Original Post) tandot Sep 2015 OP
There have been several posts about it Egnever Sep 2015 #1
I've checked DU several times tandot Sep 2015 #3
Good lord the greatest page? Egnever Sep 2015 #5
Well ... I just checked it during the last week tandot Sep 2015 #7
lots of people care KT2000 Sep 2015 #9
Again Egnever Sep 2015 #12
Thanks, Egnever tandot Sep 2015 #13
I figured Egnever Sep 2015 #19
Very sorry you and your family are going through this. cyberswede Sep 2015 #26
If you use the Google search box above , you can find DU threads on any topic dixiegrrrrl Sep 2015 #24
Sorry for the loss to your family, JDPriestly Sep 2015 #28
How are we supposed to know? yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #2
It's rubbish that this is being ignored here pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #4
It is horrible ... my family and friends lost everything tandot Sep 2015 #6
MSNBC and NBC have had stories nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #11
"California Burning" is front-page news here in France. Runs in every news cycle. Surya Gayatri Sep 2015 #25
fire insurance is great and really inexpensive. hope your friends had some to help them out nt msongs Sep 2015 #8
Yes, most of them of them had fire insurance tandot Sep 2015 #10
Someone posted a video of driving out through that fire Warpy Sep 2015 #14
I've been watching it on the news, it's horrible Marrah_G Sep 2015 #15
I think that it just doesnt affect a lot of people and get coverage Travis_0004 Sep 2015 #16
It is gotting a lot of coverage on cable news and broadcast channels pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #17
well ... it didn't get a lot of coverage on DU tandot Sep 2015 #18
We've had multiple DU threads in GD alone pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #22
I am following close MFM008 Sep 2015 #20
Not even on California news channels? flamingdem Sep 2015 #21
The OP is scolding DUers for not posting about it. Arugula Latte Sep 2015 #36
Like this post? XemaSab Sep 2015 #23
Show off! ellisonz Sep 2015 #45
From WA state, too artislife Sep 2015 #27
going to bed but found this. Might be useful! artislife Sep 2015 #30
I have seen several posts about Calfornia Skittles Sep 2015 #29
Is this your first post/OP about it? n/t djean111 Sep 2015 #31
GD flows by rapidly. And sometimes people are wary of posting personal stories. hunter Sep 2015 #32
Did you miss this one? malaise Sep 2015 #33
What do you want people to say? Brickbat Sep 2015 #34
Excellent Video, Update on Valley Fire Crosspost from LBR PufPuf23 Sep 2015 #35
Here something substantial from the Speaker of the California Assembly Toni Atkins nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #37
I apologize for scolding DUers about it. tandot Sep 2015 #38
it is good to vent dembotoz Sep 2015 #39
I am so sorry that you lost your mom tandot Sep 2015 #43
I'm so sorry, please accept my condolences... what a terrible time you and your loved ones have had. MerryBlooms Sep 2015 #40
Very sorry about the loss of your mother. Life can be very unfair. closeupready Sep 2015 #41
I'm very sorry that you lost your mom...and now family and friends have lost everything mnhtnbb Sep 2015 #42
This is just awful! Texasgal Sep 2015 #44

tandot

(6,671 posts)
3. I've checked DU several times
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:44 PM
Sep 2015

during the last week. I guess it never made it to the "Greatest Page" ... Sorry that I assumed that such a loss would make it at least to the Greatest Page ... I am personally affected and it really bothers me that so few people give a shit.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
5. Good lord the greatest page?
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:48 PM
Sep 2015

That thing is littered with nonsense posts. A post about Trumps hair can make it to the greatest page.

I wouldn't base anything on what makes it to the greatest page.

tandot

(6,671 posts)
7. Well ... I just checked it during the last week
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:52 PM
Sep 2015

and I couldn't find anything about it ...

I guess Trump's hair is more important than everything else

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
9. lots of people care
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:56 PM
Sep 2015

I am checking with FB posts of people I know affected by this. Others are probably finding more direct info too.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
12. Again
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:03 AM
Sep 2015

What makes it to the greatest page is by no means a gauge of what is important. Currently the photo contest is on the greatest page do you really think that means it is important?

And again there have been several posts about the fires. Just because you didn't see them does not mean there haven't been any.

I get that right now you are personally affected by this and I hope that your friends and family find relief. There is never a lack of horrible stuff happening around the world it is difficult to focus on any tragedy for very long as there are so many of them.

BTW there is nothing stopping you from posting about the fires with some inside info instead of ranting at DU because you didn't see posts that have and continue to be made about the fires.

tandot

(6,671 posts)
13. Thanks, Egnever
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:10 AM
Sep 2015

I just lost my mom to Leukemia and now my husband's family and friends (who all lived on Cobb and Middletown) have lost everything

I probably shouldn't post when I am so emotionally drained but I was just very upset that nobody seems to give a shit.

Sorry

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
19. I figured
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:43 AM
Sep 2015

I truly hope your family finds all the help they need to get them through this. Sounds like they at least got out safely and in the end that is what matters. The rest is just stuff. Stuff can be replaced.

I am glad they are safe.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
24. If you use the Google search box above , you can find DU threads on any topic
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:59 AM
Sep 2015

I just did a search for "Clear Lake fires" and 9 recent posts popped up.

I also wrote a couple of posts about the fires up there because we have family near Clear Lake.

The California fires have been posted a lot...put that in the search box.

Facebook and Twitter have been informative also about how to help folks who have been burned out.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
28. Sorry for the loss to your family,
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:18 AM
Sep 2015

did they have insurance to cover the loss of the house"

How does that work?

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
2. How are we supposed to know?
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:42 PM
Sep 2015

Now that you have an OP, awareness will rise. I notice you provided zero links which further explains why there are no other OPs out there saying 1000 homes are destroyed. I think it is unfair of you to say we don't care. We do. There are many threads about the fires, but not the one you are personally aware of. Now we do.



Thoughts to those affected.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
11. MSNBC and NBC have had stories
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:01 AM
Sep 2015

so has CNN

ABC

CBS

The National in Canada, Mexican news as well

BBC

Hell, I even ran one story the other day. I am so small that we are far from there so it is hard.

It is not just national news, but international news. FEMA is getting geared up after the Governor declared state of emergency. It is kind of a needed step for that.

Some of us used to post these things, even as they broke and kept on them like you know, tight. But that was broken in our assess by a few posters. Two things. Make sure they know about both the state side, office of Emergency Services, OES for short, as well as FEMA.

As to raising money and all that, I cannot start to express the caution on being careful of scammers. And this is at all stages of recovery.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
25. "California Burning" is front-page news here in France. Runs in every news cycle.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:24 AM
Sep 2015
http://www.france24.com/en/20150915-california-wildfire-deadly-400-homes-destroyed

California wildfire turns deadly as 400 homes destroyed


"A Northern California wildfire ranked as the most destructive to hit the drought-stricken US West this year has killed one woman and burned some 400 homes to the ground, fire officials said on Monday, and they expect the property toll to climb."


Strength and solace to you and your family. And, gratitude that you and they survived to tell the tale.

Most of the stuff can be replaced. Your precious lives cannot.

tandot

(6,671 posts)
10. Yes, most of them of them had fire insurance
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:59 PM
Sep 2015

but that fire was so quick that they couldn't grab the essential stuff ... my in-laws had to drive through fire to make it out ... I am so glad that they made it but it was horrifying

Warpy

(111,256 posts)
14. Someone posted a video of driving out through that fire
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:11 AM
Sep 2015

Last edited Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:53 AM - Edit history (1)

And no, there was no way to grab anything unless the bug-out bag was packed and next to the front door, something this fire blew up too fast for anyone to do.

It's bad for younger folks, but oldsters who lost everything can never recover.

ETA: This is what you had to drive through if you were trying to get to safety:

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
15. I've been watching it on the news, it's horrible
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:14 AM
Sep 2015

I wouldn't necessarily say that you not seeing posts about it means that people don't care. am so sorry for what your family is going through.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
16. I think that it just doesnt affect a lot of people and get coverage
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:19 AM
Sep 2015

It was mentioned on the news tonight but it wasnt a top story.

In the midwest, we just dont have forrest fires so its tough to relate. I know it affects you, so I understand the anger, but for a lot of people its just another news story.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
17. It is gotting a lot of coverage on cable news and broadcast channels
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:28 AM
Sep 2015

Anyone who thinks it's being ignored is not paying attention.

tandot

(6,671 posts)
18. well ... it didn't get a lot of coverage on DU
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:39 AM
Sep 2015

We saw the news coverage ... but it really didn't get a lot of attention on DU ... this is beyond devastating. The whole area was struggling before the fire ... now it is just beyond what we would have ever imagined

MFM008

(19,808 posts)
20. I am following close
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:43 AM
Sep 2015

Especially after our fires here in Washington State. I dont know if prayers help, but you have them.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
27. From WA state, too
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:06 AM
Sep 2015

We feel you. So sorry that you are so affected. My best to you, your loved ones and friends. The fire season has been brutal out here in the West. That doesn't help much, but just know there is a lot of outpouring of good wishes for you. Hopefully, it will be declared a disaster area and further help will arrive.


hunter

(38,311 posts)
32. GD flows by rapidly. And sometimes people are wary of posting personal stories.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 10:23 AM
Sep 2015

I'm so sorry about your in-laws.



Adding international news link:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34261611

PufPuf23

(8,776 posts)
35. Excellent Video, Update on Valley Fire Crosspost from LBR
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 10:56 AM
Sep 2015

Excellelent video of Valley Fire, fire update.






On Monday the spread of the 67,000-acre Valley fire 62 miles north of San Francisco was slowed by temperatures in the low 60s, relative humidity above 80 percent, and 0.01″ of rain that fell in the late afternoon, according to data from a weather station south of the fire in Calistoga.

CAL FIRE reported Tuesday morning that their latest damage assessment shows that 585 homes and hundreds of other structures have been destroyed. The surveys are continuing and the numbers will likely change in the coming days. Approximately 9,000 structures are threatened. Evacuations are still in place, affecting 23,000 people.

In addition to the homes that burned in Middletown and Cobb, a geothermal plant that produces electricity, The Geysers, was damaged. Five of the 14 plants were affected, including power lines and wooden cooling towers.

Air tankers have not worked the fire since Saturday, grounded by poor visibility caused by smoke and clouds. Tuesday’s weather is expected to make it possible to use them again. The forecast calls for a 35 percent cloud cover, a high temperature of 73 degrees, relative humidity in the 40s, and winds out of the west at 8 to 13 mph.

more and many pictures at link: http://wildfiretoday.com/2015/09/13/valley-fire-in-california-burns-40000-acres-in-less-than-24-hours/
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
37. Here something substantial from the Speaker of the California Assembly Toni Atkins
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 07:03 PM
Sep 2015

Helping Victims of Devastating Fires


Dear Friend,

Labor DayThe Valley and Butte fires in Northern California have devastated communities, destroyed hundreds of homes, and disrupted thousands of lives. They are among the most destructive fires in our state's history, and the pictures from the affected communities are heartbreaking.

Brave firefighters and cooler temperatures helped make progress against the fires, but there is still much to do and there are many in need. San Diego is no stranger to wildfires, and I will always remember the generosity of people from all over who donated money, materials and their time to help.

The Sacramento Bee newspaper did a great job putting together a list of places people can donate and volunteer to help victims of the Valley and Butte fires. Visit my website for more information on how you can help.

Warmly,

Speaker of the Assembly, Toni G. Atkins
Toni G. Atkins
Speaker of the Assembly
78th Assembly District

tandot

(6,671 posts)
38. I apologize for scolding DUers about it.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:47 PM
Sep 2015

I shouldn't have posted ... I am really emotionally drained. I've lost my mom to leukemia ... it took 3 month from diagnosis to her horrific death on August 22nd. ... and now a lot of family and friends lost everything in that Valley fire.

Sometimes, it is just very hard to cope ...

Again, I am sorry for scolding anyone .... I know that DU cares!

dembotoz

(16,804 posts)
39. it is good to vent
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:05 PM
Sep 2015

sorry for the loss of your mom...mine passed on sept 11 last year. This past year has been rough.
For you it has been worse.

we have been watching the fire after fire after fire....

it has had an impact on me. in my business i sell telephony and internet to the smb market.
Because if the devastation i see on the tv i now have added a few lines of disaster recovery services for files etc.
My crusade for the fall and spring.....

what got to me was one fire had burned like 120 square miles...If you google hiroshima that was only 12 square miles....Understand loss of life and hiroshima was a city and yada yada yada...but the destruction...

so yah we been paying attention

take care
tom

tandot

(6,671 posts)
43. I am so sorry that you lost your mom
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 08:37 PM
Sep 2015

I don't know how to cope with it ... I have moments where I seem to be fine and than I just break down ... Thanks, Dembotoz, I know that I am not alone dealing with it ...

MerryBlooms

(11,769 posts)
40. I'm so sorry, please accept my condolences... what a terrible time you and your loved ones have had.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:16 PM
Sep 2015


I've followed the west coast fires-- I'm from OR and I have a lot of family and friends in OR and WA. I fear this is now the norm.

Again, I'm so sorry for your losses. Hang in there.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
41. Very sorry about the loss of your mother. Life can be very unfair.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:22 PM
Sep 2015
The fire adds insult to injury, and I hope you can find solace.

mnhtnbb

(31,388 posts)
42. I'm very sorry that you lost your mom...and now family and friends have lost everything
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:29 PM
Sep 2015

in the Valley fire.

We lost our home to a fire--not wildfire and not along with neighbors and friends--and everything in it.
Yes, your brain tells you that it's just stuff and it IS fortunate that everyone got out, but a lot of times
that 'stuff' represents irreplaceable memories in photos, keepsakes, and family treasures, often from
several generations. Losing that 'stuff' is heartbreaking. Just heartbreaking.

And then there is the nightmare of dealing with insurance companies, mortgage companies, buying clothes
for everyone, finding a place to live and furnishing it...so you can go forward with life. Just trying to do your taxes six months from now, when you have no financial records from the last year, can be a real pain.

My heart goes out to you as you try to help your family and friends deal with their losses, all at the same time you
are dealing with the loss of your mom.

Sending hugs...

Texasgal

(17,045 posts)
44. This is just awful!
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:45 PM
Sep 2015

I am so sorry, I hope your family and others are atleast safe!

What a horrific thing to go through! You and your family are in my thoughts.

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