Another poll of conservative viewers showing Trump won the debate in their eyes by a large margin

[stevenleser]

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/newsmax-poll-second-republican/2015/09/17/id/691953/

Here is the complete list of results from the Newsmax poll:

Donald Trump 46.26%
Carly Fiorina 20.11%
Sen. Marco Rubio 9.32%
Dr. Ben Carson 9.22%
Sen. Ted Cruz 5.67%
Gov. John Kasich 3.10%
Gov. Chris Christie 2.14%
Gov. Jeb Bush 1.45%
Sen. Rand Paul 1.27%
Gov. Mike Huckabee 1.04%
Gov. Scott Walker 0.41%

[marmar]

1. Kasich is the only one who sounded somewhat sane, and he gets 3%?

Frightening window into Repug voters.

[stevenleser]

2. Yep, that's why in another thread I said that if you ask me who won, I have to give two answers

one for normal people, and another for how I think the GOP base saw it.

I said normal = Kasich or Rubio

and GOP base would say Trump won, and here you are.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

6. Kasich just seems so dorky and uncool. I don't think his hair helps...he looks like

how they cut people's hair in a mental institution.

Rubio does seems very intelligent and verbal. But...he is completely devoid of humor.

[femmocrat]

12. I think Kasic was better in the first debate.

Can't remember anything in particular that he said last night. Stuff about Ohio? It was all longer than my attention span.

Rubio was very sharp and I thought Christie did better with his focus on "the American people". Seemed to work with the audience.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

21. He basically talked about how he had "done it all" before. But..

for some reason - this time - it's nothing important that people are looking for. Whenever candidates talk about what they have done it ALWAYS sounds like bragging to me. Guess there must be a better way to let people know what you have accomplished?

I am really quite surprised that Christie is such a persona non gratis now. The bridgegate thing just doesn't seem that big a deal anymore. Him bragging about how much he loved GWB was sickening though.

And - that no one called out Jeb when he said his brother kept us safe "9-11 - Duh" made me mad. You could see Trump's brain working on that one.

[Volaris]

23. Rubios punching above his weight class...

And seems a little skittish about getting hit back.
He probably would make a descent executive (as far as that could ever be said of any republican), but not yet. He needs another 10 years and to shed his fear of getting into a real scrap.

[spanone]

3. but but but cnn is declaring carly the wiener

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/17/politics/republican-debate-winners-losers-donald-trump/index.html

[stevenleser]

4. No question she helped herself, but more GOPers think Trump won.

She is going to start getting much more scrutiny now and I think she is going to wilt under that scrutiny.

She has nothing to back her candidacy up in terms of success stories in her resume.

[WI_DEM]

5. Walker--what a loser! not even 1%--he is toast.

[PeaceNikki]

7. I hope he sticks it out for many more months.

And continues to both embarrass himself and stay the hell out of our beloved state.

[StevieM]

18. I am not sure if I posted this to you in the past, but I have often said that even if Scott Walker

wins the GOP nomination, and even if he somehow wins the presidential election, he will still lose the state of Wisconsin. Voters there know him and his disastrous record better than anyone.

[PeaceNikki]

19. Paul Ryan sure didn't help the Romney ticket here.

Or maybe he did and would have been whooped even harder without Ryan.

You're absolutely correct, though. Democrats ROCK in GE's. We have a long way to go in midterms and special elections, though. That's how we end up with him and assholes like Ron Johnson.

[Takket]

13. pretty amazing

I would assume he would get the "1%" (richest Americans) vote, since he is their handpicked candidate. he can't even manage that LOL

[IDemo]

8. Newsmax?

If Mussolini on meth were their guy, they'd still declare him the winner.

[sharp_stick]

9. It being Newsmax

I think I'd take it with a pretty big grain of salt until I saw the methodology.

They probably carried it out in an asylum or something.

[stevenleser]

11. It its like other Newsmax polls, it's online but requires you to fill out demographic info

including for whom you voted for President in 2012.

The real proof will come in the updated polls in the next few days in terms of who the base supports for the nomination.

Last time, even though most reasonable people thought Trump laid an egg at the first debate, his numbers started moving up dramatically.

[hamsterjill]

10. Yes, those viewers think Trump won, and Trump never once gave an answer with any substance.

That tells us something me thinks! These viewers are looking to be entertained; not informed.

Heaven help us if any ONE of those idiots on stage last night makes it any where near the oval office.

[Kotya]

16. A body language expert said Trump dominated the debate.

If you turned the volume off and just watched body language, Trump is the alpha male. His opponents were stiff and wooden.

"Nobody has done it this well since John F. Kennedy. Or Mussolini..."

Interesting article.

http://www.wsbt.com/news/health/trumps-bumptious-body-language-dominates/35322934

[hamsterjill]

17. Thanks for the link, and welcome to DU!

That is an interesting article.

But I'd argue that he "purses his lips" about 99% of the time. He makes that little face that looks like a duck when he does it, too. Remember when Ivana called him "The Donald"? Donald Duck!!! LOL

I do agree that, on that stage last night, he WAS the alpha male. The others all appeared intimidated by him.

[riderinthestorm]

20. Agree to a point. Fiorina was arrogant and dismissive.

Her body language was similarly alpha.imo

[Laura PourMeADrink]

22. think Christie got a zinger off on her - "you've interrupted everyone tonight

but not me" or something like that. you could hear her calling Tapper's name throughout the whole thing.

She does seem to have excellent recall of information. She's not gonna pull a Rick Perry and forget an agency to dump. But there is something really unlikable about her to me.

And - she pulled out that "Secretary to CEO" bullshit again. Her ex-husband said that was total bull. She took a secretarial job ONLY briefly to make ends meet when she switched her major from law to business. He said she will say anything to get what she wants. Have to admit she's got balls - can't imagine - getting fired from major company - losing her last election - then saying "hey I think I can be president" out of touch with reality narcissist !

[riderinthestorm]

24. Oh agreed. She's repellent. I was really uncomfortable with her

While respecting her intellect and savvy.

Kinda like a snake...

[B Calm]

14. LOL, looks like the democratic party will win in a landslide!

[Tommy_Carcetti]

15. At this point, he could pull down his pants and take a dump on stage and still win.

His followers are pretty much immune to any sense of decency and are zoned in for the long run.