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Jeb Calls Liberal Group's 9/11 Ad Criticizing His Brother 'Disgraceful'Bush was referring to a new ad from the liberal group Americans United for Change. Though Bush refers to the group as part of Clinton's "political machine," the group is not associated with her campaign. The group does share a president, Brad Woodhouse, with Correct the Record, a pro-Clinton Super PAC.
... yes ... the ad is the disgrace.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Vincardog
(20,234 posts)malaise
(268,980 posts)any fugging ad. He did not keep America safe - that is a fucking fact
randys1
(16,286 posts)Sanity Claws
(21,847 posts)If Jeb! can't handle the truth, get out of the race.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Some journalists still peddle this canard as if it were fact. This is defamatory and could end up hurting the country.
By LAURENCE H. SILBERMAN
Wall Street Journal, Opinion, Sunday, Feb. 8, 2015
In recent weeks, I have heard former Associated Press reporter Ron Fournier on Fox News twice asserting, quite offhandedly, that President George W. Bush lied us into war in Iraq.
I found this shocking....
SNIP
The charge is dangerous because it can take on the air of historical factwith potentially dire consequences. I am reminded of a similarly baseless accusation that helped the Nazis come to power in Germany: that the German army had not really lost World War I, that the soldiers instead had been stabbed in the back by politicians.
Sometime in the future, perhaps long after most of us are gone, an American president may need to rely publicly on intelligence reports to support military action. It would be tragic if, at such a critical moment, the presidents credibility were undermined by memories of a false charge peddled by the likes of Ron Fournier.
Mr. Silberman, a senior federal judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, was co-chairman of the Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/laurence-h-silberman-the-dangerous-lie-that-bush-lied-1423437950
Thank you, Herr Rupert.
Human101948
(3,457 posts)and was appointed to this so-called investigation (Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction) by George W. Bush. Whitewash anyone?
Octafish
(55,745 posts)A linchpin in the rise of the rabid right...
Who is Laurence Silberman?
The right-wing political career of judge in Secret Service decision
By Martin McLaughlin
wsws.org, 18 July 1998
The judge who declared that Clinton was "at war with the US government" is a long-time political operative in the right-wing of the Republican Party. In 1980 Silberman served as a Reagan campaign aide carrying out some of the most delicate and politically sensitive assignments. He was dubbed the Reagan-Bush campaign's "ambassador to Iran" for his behind-the-scenes contacts with the Khomeini regime.
The Republican campaign was seeking to determine whether Khomeini intended to release any American hostages, held in the US embassy in Tehran, before the election. By some accounts, Reagan and Bush sought to forestall any such "October surprise," which would presumably have aided the Democratic incumbent Jimmy Carter, and Silberman conveyed their sentiments to the Iranians.
Silberman's reward was a nomination to the Court of Appeals for Washington DC, the most political and powerful circuit court because it handles most cases involving the federal government. His most important decision on the Court of Appeals came in the case of Lt. Col. Oliver North, the principal figure in the Iran-Contra affair. Silberman and fellow justice David Sentelle, a former aide to arch-right-wing Republican Senator Jesse Helms, voided the convictions of both North and Admiral John Poindexter in 1990. Their intervention played a key role in sabotaging the investigation by Iran-Contra special prosecutor Lawrence Walsh.
SNIP...
The Iran-Contra investigation was being blocked by the Bush administration, which refused to permit classified CIA documents to be turned over to North and other defendants, citing "national security." This was a transparent maneuver to hamstring the prosecution, in which the White House encouraged North, Poindexter & Co. to seek the documents and then instructed the CIA to refuse them, in order to create an appealable issue.
As Walsh pointed out later (in "Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conpsiracy and Cover-up," his book on the Iran-Contra coverup, the judiciary itself played a key political role. He wrote: "a powerful band of Republican appointees waited like the strategic reserves of an embattled army. The final evaluation of the immunity Congress had granted Oliver North and John Poindexter would be the work of yet another political force--a force cloaked in the black robes of those dedicated to defining and preserving the rule of law. Although the judiciary is theroretically a neutral arm of government and judges are expected to eschew partisan poltics, the underlying political nature of all government institutions was evident when a three-judge panel from the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit reviewed Oliver North's conviction in 1990."
CONTINUED...
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/1998/07/silb-j18.html
A hearty welcome to DU, Human101948!
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)he can expect to go down in a 2008-like landslide - provided he finds a way to beat Trump and Carly. But here is a little secret: the Trumpsters and Carlystas don't like his brother's legacy either... Lots among the GOP base are anti-establishment; and establishment is what Jeb! is running on.
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)What goes around comes around.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)The ad simply showed what actually happened. Bush looks like a moron after he was told of the attacks. Yep, that was a disgrace.
OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)That his brother got thousands of our young people and hundreds of thousands of Iraq civilians killed by invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. That's not just disgraceful, it's criminal.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)https://www.facebook.com/Bipartisanism/videos/893314344078908 (click to see this video; not yet available on youtube)
spanone
(135,831 posts)the nerve of these bastards
napkinz
(17,199 posts)seafan
(9,387 posts)So, the stuck pig screams today that a liberal group's ad aimed at his claim that "My brother kept us safe!", is, you see, disgraceful.
NYT, September 10, 2012:
The Deafness Before the Storm
On Aug. 6, 2001, President George W. Bush received a classified review of the threats posed by Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network, Al Qaeda. That mornings presidential daily brief the top-secret document prepared by Americas intelligence agencies featured the now-infamous heading: Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S. A few weeks later, on 9/11, Al Qaeda accomplished that goal.
On April 10, 2004, the Bush White House declassified that daily brief and only that daily brief in response to pressure from the 9/11 Commission, which was investigating the events leading to the attack. Administration officials dismissed the documents significance, saying that, despite the jaw-dropping headline, it was only an assessment of Al Qaedas history, not a warning of the impending attack. While some critics considered that claim absurd, a close reading of the brief showed that the argument had some validity.
That is, unless it was read in conjunction with the daily briefs preceding Aug. 6, the ones the Bush administration would not release. While those documents are still not public, I have read excerpts from many of them, along with other recently declassified records, and come to an inescapable conclusion: the administrations reaction to what Mr. Bush was told in the weeks before that infamous briefing reflected significantly more negligence than has been disclosed. In other words, the Aug. 6 document, for all of the controversy it provoked, is not nearly as shocking as the briefs that came before it.
The direct warnings to Mr. Bush about the possibility of a Qaeda attack began in the spring of 2001. By May 1, the Central Intelligence Agency told the White House of a report that a group presently in the United States was planning a terrorist operation. Weeks later, on June 22, the daily brief reported that Qaeda strikes could be imminent, although intelligence suggested the time frame was flexible.
But some in the administration considered the warning to be just bluster. An intelligence official and a member of the Bush administration both told me in interviews that the neoconservative leaders who had recently assumed power at the Pentagon were warning the White House that the C.I.A. had been fooled; according to this theory, Bin Laden was merely pretending to be planning an attack to distract the administration from Saddam Hussein, whom the neoconservatives saw as a greater threat. Intelligence officials, these sources said, protested that the idea of Bin Laden, an Islamic fundamentalist, conspiring with Mr. Hussein, an Iraqi secularist, was ridiculous, but the neoconservatives suspicions were nevertheless carrying the day.
In response, the C.I.A. prepared an analysis that all but pleaded with the White House to accept that the danger from Bin Laden was real.
June 29........ July 1........ July 9......... July 24....... August 6.......
NBC, September 11, 2012: Evidence piles up that Bush administration got many pre-9/11 warnings
Business Insider, September 11, 2012: Bush Received More Warnings About 9/11 Than We Realized
WP, October 1, 2006: Two Months Before 9/11, an Urgent Warning to Rice
(Rice is currently in charge of Jeb!'s *Education Foundation* while he's occupied by his benefactors at Wall Street/US Chamber of Commerce/DC Establishment/K Street, in their quest to retain power at any cost.)
Her hands are very dirty as well as George W. Bush's.
The next president needs to foster better international relations and peace, he said. "I know how to do this because, yes, I am a Bush," he said. "I happened to see two really good presidents develop relationships with other countries."
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Skittles
(153,160 posts)DO TELL US MORE
spanone
(135,831 posts)fuck the bu$hes
wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)went the route of "I love my brother, but he made mistakes, I've seen them and I know not to make them blah blah blah"? How would people respond to that instead of his "W was good" talk? Would people consider it to be trashing his own brother? Can't W himself kind of "come out" and say "yes I did wrong and Jeb won't make these mistakes because x y z"?
Of course maybe it is better to keep on the "W was good" route, I believe that W talk did get some applause at the last debate.
HeiressofBickworth
(2,682 posts)Just did 2 quick searches :
US Embassy Attacks during Bush Administration: 13
US Domestic terrorist attacks during Bush Administration: 19
Was JEB! asleep during his brother's administration? Or was not paying attention.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)He's the Commander in Chief; he receives a report from his chief of staff that the US is under attack, yet he does nothing!!
Can you imagine what would have happened to a platoon leader in a war zone whose platoon comes under attack and he does nothing? Can you imagine?
The f*cking Republicans can impeach Clinton over a blue dress, but refuse to impeach Bush for cowardice in the face of the enemy.
Go to Hell, Jeb! THE BUSH FAMILY IS DISGRACEFUL!!!
Faux pas
(14,672 posts)is to keep saying the lie enough and it will be true.
brush
(53,776 posts)That's why your numbers are tanking.
Nobody wants another Bush anywhere near the White House.