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portlander23

(2,078 posts)
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 10:56 AM Sep 2015

Jeb Calls Liberal Group's 9/11 Ad Criticizing His Brother 'Disgraceful'

Jeb Calls Liberal Group's 9/11 Ad Criticizing His Brother 'Disgraceful'

Bush was referring to a new ad from the liberal group Americans United for Change. Though Bush refers to the group as part of Clinton's "political machine," the group is not associated with her campaign. The group does share a president, Brad Woodhouse, with Correct the Record, a pro-Clinton Super PAC.



... yes ... the ad is the disgrace.





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Jeb Calls Liberal Group's 9/11 Ad Criticizing His Brother 'Disgraceful' (Original Post) portlander23 Sep 2015 OP
The Bushes are a disgrace to the human race. hobbit709 Sep 2015 #1
If only pscot Sep 2015 #9
Truth! Dont call me Shirley Sep 2015 #17
JebTHRO bushDINE knows disgraceful his family invented it. Vincardog Sep 2015 #29
Jeb's big lie about his brother keeping America safe is worse than malaise Sep 2015 #2
Jeb stole the election, I only want to hear from Jeb from his prison cell. randys1 Sep 2015 #26
The real disgrace is what W did to this country Sanity Claws Sep 2015 #3
BFEE equating 'Bush Lied' talk to NAZIs. Octafish Sep 2015 #4
Silberman is a Reagan appointee... Human101948 Sep 2015 #6
Same guy. Silberman also is a veteran of the October Surprise treason of 1980. Octafish Sep 2015 #10
Awww, Jeb's projecting again. sakabatou Sep 2015 #5
If Jeb! makes this campaign all about his brother's record, Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #7
It's the notorious Dumbya Legacy, Jeb. Deal with it. lpbk2713 Sep 2015 #8
It was indeed a disgrace NastyRiffraff Sep 2015 #11
I'll tell you what's DISGRACEFUL. OregonBlue Sep 2015 #12
Concur laserhaas Sep 2015 #13
"my brother kept us safe" ... really? napkinz Sep 2015 #14
Bill Maher, Matthews Tear Into Jeb: How Can He Get Away with Saying W Kept Us Safe?! napkinz Sep 2015 #15
great post, thanks napkinz... spanone Sep 2015 #22
you're welcome spanone napkinz Sep 2015 #25
Jeb Bush lashes out at ad criticizing his brother's handling of America's safety. seafan Sep 2015 #16
The only "us" w kept safe were his family and his oligarch buddies. Who's the real disgrace, jeb? Dont call me Shirley Sep 2015 #18
The entire Bush family is thin-skinned, puerile, and evil. (nt) WinkyDink Sep 2015 #19
in exactly what way, Jeb? Skittles Sep 2015 #20
jeb! is proving that junior was the smart one....leadership my ass. spanone Sep 2015 #21
Wouldn't it be better if he wheniwasincongress Sep 2015 #23
Google is your friend HeiressofBickworth Sep 2015 #24
He should have been impeached on this alone! KansDem Sep 2015 #27
The rethug way Faux pas Sep 2015 #28
People still remember, Jeb brush Sep 2015 #30

malaise

(268,980 posts)
2. Jeb's big lie about his brother keeping America safe is worse than
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 10:59 AM
Sep 2015

any fugging ad. He did not keep America safe - that is a fucking fact

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
4. BFEE equating 'Bush Lied' talk to NAZIs.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 11:02 AM
Sep 2015
The Dangerous Lie That ‘Bush Lied’

Some journalists still peddle this canard as if it were fact. This is defamatory and could end up hurting the country.

By LAURENCE H. SILBERMAN
Wall Street Journal, Opinion, Sunday, Feb. 8, 2015

In recent weeks, I have heard former Associated Press reporter Ron Fournier on Fox News twice asserting, quite offhandedly, that President George W. Bush “lied us into war in Iraq.”

I found this shocking....

SNIP…

The charge is dangerous because it can take on the air of historical fact—with potentially dire consequences. I am reminded of a similarly baseless accusation that helped the Nazis come to power in Germany: that the German army had not really lost World War I, that the soldiers instead had been “stabbed in the back” by politicians.

Sometime in the future, perhaps long after most of us are gone, an American president may need to rely publicly on intelligence reports to support military action. It would be tragic if, at such a critical moment, the president’s credibility were undermined by memories of a false charge peddled by the likes of Ron Fournier.

Mr. Silberman, a senior federal judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, was co-chairman of the Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/laurence-h-silberman-the-dangerous-lie-that-bush-lied-1423437950

Thank you, Herr Rupert.
 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
6. Silberman is a Reagan appointee...
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 11:06 AM
Sep 2015

and was appointed to this so-called investigation (Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction) by George W. Bush. Whitewash anyone?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
10. Same guy. Silberman also is a veteran of the October Surprise treason of 1980.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 11:42 AM
Sep 2015

A linchpin in the rise of the rabid right...



Who is Laurence Silberman?

The right-wing political career of judge in Secret Service decision

By Martin McLaughlin
wsws.org, 18 July 1998

The judge who declared that Clinton was "at war with the US government" is a long-time political operative in the right-wing of the Republican Party. In 1980 Silberman served as a Reagan campaign aide carrying out some of the most delicate and politically sensitive assignments. He was dubbed the Reagan-Bush campaign's "ambassador to Iran" for his behind-the-scenes contacts with the Khomeini regime.

The Republican campaign was seeking to determine whether Khomeini intended to release any American hostages, held in the US embassy in Tehran, before the election. By some accounts, Reagan and Bush sought to forestall any such "October surprise," which would presumably have aided the Democratic incumbent Jimmy Carter, and Silberman conveyed their sentiments to the Iranians.

Silberman's reward was a nomination to the Court of Appeals for Washington DC, the most political and powerful circuit court because it handles most cases involving the federal government. His most important decision on the Court of Appeals came in the case of Lt. Col. Oliver North, the principal figure in the Iran-Contra affair. Silberman and fellow justice David Sentelle, a former aide to arch-right-wing Republican Senator Jesse Helms, voided the convictions of both North and Admiral John Poindexter in 1990. Their intervention played a key role in sabotaging the investigation by Iran-Contra special prosecutor Lawrence Walsh.

SNIP...

The Iran-Contra investigation was being blocked by the Bush administration, which refused to permit classified CIA documents to be turned over to North and other defendants, citing "national security." This was a transparent maneuver to hamstring the prosecution, in which the White House encouraged North, Poindexter & Co. to seek the documents and then instructed the CIA to refuse them, in order to create an appealable issue.

As Walsh pointed out later (in "Firewall: The Iran-Contra Conpsiracy and Cover-up,&quot his book on the Iran-Contra coverup, the judiciary itself played a key political role. He wrote: "a powerful band of Republican appointees waited like the strategic reserves of an embattled army. The final evaluation of the immunity Congress had granted Oliver North and John Poindexter would be the work of yet another political force--a force cloaked in the black robes of those dedicated to defining and preserving the rule of law. Although the judiciary is theroretically a neutral arm of government and judges are expected to eschew partisan poltics, the underlying political nature of all government institutions was evident when a three-judge panel from the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit reviewed Oliver North's conviction in 1990."

CONTINUED...

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/1998/07/silb-j18.html



A hearty welcome to DU, Human101948!
 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
7. If Jeb! makes this campaign all about his brother's record,
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 11:10 AM
Sep 2015

he can expect to go down in a 2008-like landslide - provided he finds a way to beat Trump and Carly. But here is a little secret: the Trumpsters and Carlystas don't like his brother's legacy either... Lots among the GOP base are anti-establishment; and establishment is what Jeb! is running on.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
11. It was indeed a disgrace
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 11:48 AM
Sep 2015

The ad simply showed what actually happened. Bush looks like a moron after he was told of the attacks. Yep, that was a disgrace.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
12. I'll tell you what's DISGRACEFUL.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 01:32 PM
Sep 2015

That his brother got thousands of our young people and hundreds of thousands of Iraq civilians killed by invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. That's not just disgraceful, it's criminal.

seafan

(9,387 posts)
16. Jeb Bush lashes out at ad criticizing his brother's handling of America's safety.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 04:12 PM
Sep 2015

So, the stuck pig screams today that a liberal group's ad aimed at his claim that "My brother kept us safe!", is, you see, disgraceful.


NYT, September 10, 2012:

The Deafness Before the Storm

IT was perhaps the most famous presidential briefing in history.

On Aug. 6, 2001, President George W. Bush received a classified review of the threats posed by Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network, Al Qaeda. That morning’s “presidential daily brief” — the top-secret document prepared by America’s intelligence agencies — featured the now-infamous heading: “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.” A few weeks later, on 9/11, Al Qaeda accomplished that goal.

On April 10, 2004, the Bush White House declassified that daily brief — and only that daily brief — in response to pressure from the 9/11 Commission, which was investigating the events leading to the attack. Administration officials dismissed the document’s significance, saying that, despite the jaw-dropping headline, it was only an assessment of Al Qaeda’s history, not a warning of the impending attack. While some critics considered that claim absurd, a close reading of the brief showed that the argument had some validity.

That is, unless it was read in conjunction with the daily briefs preceding Aug. 6, the ones the Bush administration would not release. While those documents are still not public, I have read excerpts from many of them, along with other recently declassified records, and come to an inescapable conclusion: the administration’s reaction to what Mr. Bush was told in the weeks before that infamous briefing reflected significantly more negligence than has been disclosed. In other words, the Aug. 6 document, for all of the controversy it provoked, is not nearly as shocking as the briefs that came before it.

The direct warnings to Mr. Bush about the possibility of a Qaeda attack began in the spring of 2001. By May 1, the Central Intelligence Agency told the White House of a report that “a group presently in the United States” was planning a terrorist operation. Weeks later, on June 22, the daily brief reported that Qaeda strikes could be “imminent,” although intelligence suggested the time frame was flexible.

But some in the administration considered the warning to be just bluster. An intelligence official and a member of the Bush administration both told me in interviews that the neoconservative leaders who had recently assumed power at the Pentagon were warning the White House that the C.I.A. had been fooled; according to this theory, Bin Laden was merely pretending to be planning an attack to distract the administration from Saddam Hussein, whom the neoconservatives saw as a greater threat. Intelligence officials, these sources said, protested that the idea of Bin Laden, an Islamic fundamentalist, conspiring with Mr. Hussein, an Iraqi secularist, was ridiculous, but the neoconservatives’ suspicions were nevertheless carrying the day.

In response, the C.I.A. prepared an analysis that all but pleaded with the White House to accept that the danger from Bin Laden was real.


And the C.I.A. repeated the warnings in the briefs that followed.


June 29........ July 1........ July 9......... July 24....... August 6.......

Yet, the White House failed to take significant action.



NBC, September 11, 2012: Evidence piles up that Bush administration got many pre-9/11 warnings

Business Insider, September 11, 2012: Bush Received More Warnings About 9/11 Than We Realized

WP, October 1, 2006: Two Months Before 9/11, an Urgent Warning to Rice


(Rice is currently in charge of Jeb!'s *Education Foundation* while he's occupied by his benefactors at Wall Street/US Chamber of Commerce/DC Establishment/K Street, in their quest to retain power at any cost.)

Her hands are very dirty as well as George W. Bush's.



.....
The next president needs to foster better international relations and peace, he said. "I know how to do this because, yes, I am a Bush," he said. "I happened to see two really good presidents develop relationships with other countries."
Jeb Bush on September 18, 2015








wheniwasincongress

(1,307 posts)
23. Wouldn't it be better if he
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 10:56 PM
Sep 2015

went the route of "I love my brother, but he made mistakes, I've seen them and I know not to make them blah blah blah"? How would people respond to that instead of his "W was good" talk? Would people consider it to be trashing his own brother? Can't W himself kind of "come out" and say "yes I did wrong and Jeb won't make these mistakes because x y z"?

Of course maybe it is better to keep on the "W was good" route, I believe that W talk did get some applause at the last debate.

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
24. Google is your friend
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:42 AM
Sep 2015

Just did 2 quick searches :

US Embassy Attacks during Bush Administration: 13

US Domestic terrorist attacks during Bush Administration: 19

Was JEB! asleep during his brother's administration? Or was not paying attention.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
27. He should have been impeached on this alone!
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 01:21 PM
Sep 2015


He's the Commander in Chief; he receives a report from his chief of staff that the US is under attack, yet he does nothing!!

Can you imagine what would have happened to a platoon leader in a war zone whose platoon comes under attack and he does nothing? Can you imagine?

The f*cking Republicans can impeach Clinton over a blue dress, but refuse to impeach Bush for cowardice in the face of the enemy.

Go to Hell, Jeb! THE BUSH FAMILY IS DISGRACEFUL!!!

brush

(53,776 posts)
30. People still remember, Jeb
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 02:54 PM
Sep 2015

That's why your numbers are tanking.

Nobody wants another Bush anywhere near the White House.

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