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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe President personally greeting the Pope was oh so the right thing to do. It was spectacular and
with the Bidens there, it was just such a perfect welcoming. I hope he enjoys his stay...
mcar
(42,426 posts)The first family is so classy as is the second family.
Paper Roses
(7,475 posts)I am not Catholic, in fact, I do not support any religion. I admire and respect those who do. My opinion is that this Pope is trying his best to make positive change to the church. I wish him the best and will give support to those who follow his church. I hope his trip here brings joy to those who follow the teachings of the church and that good will come from his visit.
To those who doubt, remember that "Rome was not built in a day".
monmouth4
(9,711 posts)hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)I'm not Catholic, but I am a Christian. I pray that Francis stays safe during his visit here. The crazies out there scare me.
lame54
(35,341 posts)pnwmom
(109,021 posts)HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)For pro-AIDS, see rufusal to endorse use of condoms, especially in Africa.
pnwmom
(109,021 posts)And Pope Francis said, with regard to gay people, "Who am I to judge?"
But I knew this visit would drive the anti-Catholic haters crazy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/24/world/europe/24pope.html
VATICAN CITY Pope Benedict XVI clearly acknowledged on Tuesday that the need to prevent diseases like AIDS could outweigh the churchs long opposition to the use of condoms.
It was a significant and stunning personal pronouncement from the conservative pope after more than two decades of heated debate inside the Roman Catholic Church and condemnation by health workers who said the churchs ban on prophylactics was morally indefensible during the AIDS crisis.
The Rev. Federico Lombardi, the Vaticans spokesman, said that for Benedict, the use of condoms by people infected with H.I.V. could be the first step of responsibility, of taking into consideration the risk to the life of the person with whom there are relations.
Whether its a man or woman or a transsexual, he added.
SNIP
Perhaps this never occurred to you, but not everyone who has AIDS knows about it.
This article might help you to understand the actual position of the church.
And care to address the homophobia and anti-woman stuff?
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2012/12/the-catholic-church-condoms-and-hiv-aids-in-africa/
pnwmom
(109,021 posts)Few self-identified Christians follow all the teachings of Jesus Christ, even if they want to.
I reject some of the Church's positions, but I'm very happy to see Pope Francis speaking out so strongly about protecting the environment and about economic equality.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)This is a piece by Andrew Seidel, an attorney for FFRF, if you're not following him on Facebook, you're missing out.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/freethoughtnow/dear-american-catholics-stop-calling-yourself-catholic-and-quit-the-church/
The Roman Catholic Church claims almost 1.2 billion adherents worldwide and a steadily declining percentage of Americans, now about 21%. But can they truly believe everything that a Catholic is required to believe? Do they even know what they are required to believe?
If you consider yourself a Catholic, you owe it to yourself take a hard look at the beliefs required by your Churchs religious law. Arguably the most repellent precept in canon law is also the most important for people claiming to be Catholic:
. . . [A] religious submission of the intellect and will must be given to a doctrine which the Supreme Pontiff or the college of bishops declares concerning faith or morals . . . therefore, the Christian faithful are to take care to avoid those things which do not agree with it. Canon 752.
This anti-human, totalitarian sentiment lies at the heart of all religions, but one rarely sees it so clearly stated. This also means that Catholics cannot pick and choose from the tenets of their religion. According to that law, there is no such thing as a cafeteria Catholic.
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If you use birth control, youre not a Catholic. If you dont believe in magic, youre not a Catholic. If you find cannibalism abhorrent, or even slightly distasteful, youre not a Catholic. And thats OK! But now its time to find the courage to stand up and tell the world, Im not a Catholic.
Much more at link.
wiggs
(7,820 posts)Train Station. If you see some brightly colored porch swings in the plaza.....my urban designer daughter designed those!
True Blue American
(17,995 posts)Will watch for them.
No Catholic here, but this Pope is what has been needed for long time. The corrupt Vatican and Priests need to be cleaned up and Pope Francis is doing just that.
Now, if some one will step in and clean up the Evangelical Churches we will be set to clean out Congress.
I was so proud of our First Family today. The lovely daughters and Michelle and Obama.
sarge43
(28,946 posts)Protocol requires a greeting from a head of state.
Or to put it another way, you invite someone to your house, you greet them at the door.
I hope he does enjoy his visit.
Turbineguy
(37,387 posts)he's a Muslim, he's not doing too well. Not that it matters to those who think that he is.
eggplant
(3,915 posts):-D
Turbineguy
(37,387 posts)He's hangin' with da Prez!