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gateley

(62,683 posts)
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 10:53 AM Sep 2015

So I'm waiting to watch Il Papa address the Chamber, and see Elizabeth Warren zipping around.

Man, I would LOVE to see a Biden/Warren or Sanders/Warren ticket. Unfortunately, I don't think Hillary could do it -- two women on the ticket would be a tough sell to many people.

But anyway, she's young (relatively) so energetic and enthusiastic, and as we know, embodies what we believe in. She would be an immense help on the ticket and (looking into my crystal ball) gain the love and respect of the entire country as VP for eight years, then skip into the POTUS slot in 2024.

Amen.

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So I'm waiting to watch Il Papa address the Chamber, and see Elizabeth Warren zipping around. (Original Post) gateley Sep 2015 OP
does she ever walk? virtualobserver Sep 2015 #1
Haha! I'd kill for that energy! gateley Sep 2015 #7
Warren is young? leftofcool Sep 2015 #2
That's why I added 'relatively' parenthetically. :-) gateley Sep 2015 #3
65 brucefan Sep 2015 #4
Elizabeth is 66, Hillary 67, Joe 72, Bernie 74. nt onehandle Sep 2015 #5
She's older than I am, but much younger in action -- ditto for the others. gateley Sep 2015 #8
Martin O'Malley 52, someone who can relate with the majority of the population snooper2 Sep 2015 #17
She would be so wasted as a Hillary VP it would be criminal. djean111 Sep 2015 #6
I don't know -- I think Obama/Joe have redefined the importance and contribution of the VP gateley Sep 2015 #9
I think Bernie would work WITH her. Warren has been pretty outspoken as to how djean111 Sep 2015 #11
Biden's 'Wall Street Loving Ways' is a misrepresentation. gateley Sep 2015 #13
I think we just have to agree to disagree, then. :-) djean111 Sep 2015 #14
That's okay, I'm used to disagreeing with almost everybody when it comes to Biden. :-) gateley Sep 2015 #15
I would be happy if she would just endorse Bernie. Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #10
I think (just IMO) that those for whom her endorsement would mean something are probably gateley Sep 2015 #12
I look forward to the day when two women on the ticket is no weirder than two men. Matariki Sep 2015 #16
Ditto. Don't think we can jump right into it, though. gateley Sep 2015 #18
 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
1. does she ever walk?
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 10:55 AM
Sep 2015

at first I thought she must run for exercise..........but now I'm thinking that she just runs around all day long.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
7. Haha! I'd kill for that energy!
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 11:02 AM
Sep 2015

I honestly marvel at all those I mentioned -- Joe, Bernie, Hillary and Warren. I often times watch one or the other on TV and think "how does he/she do it?" as I hoist my ass off my sofa and creak into the next room.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
8. She's older than I am, but much younger in action -- ditto for the others.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 11:04 AM
Sep 2015

If you saw me (62) you'd think 'elderly'. You don't think that when you look at any of them.

Maybe I need to enter politics.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
17. Martin O'Malley 52, someone who can relate with the majority of the population
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 01:44 PM
Sep 2015

Time to get some younger folks Like our great President Obama in office- Boomers need to sit back and let the next middle aged generation start running things. They have done enough LOL

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
6. She would be so wasted as a Hillary VP it would be criminal.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 11:02 AM
Sep 2015

i doubt Hillary would choose her, unless a focus group told her it would garner more votes (not from me, it wouldn't, and I love Warren.)
Warren as VP to Hillary would just be taking her usefulness from the Senate, which is something the Third Way wants. In fact, the Third Way put an article in the WSJ saying Warren was getting out of hand and needed to be reined in.
A Sanders/Warren ticket would just be fabulous; I believe they would work together really well.
But Warren as anyone else's VP - would be a waste and would not change my vote for Bernie at all.
I know that VP picks are done at the convention, but i think that this time we will see choices floated ahead of time in the effort to get more support.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
9. I don't know -- I think Obama/Joe have redefined the importance and contribution of the VP
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 11:06 AM
Sep 2015

And, I think Joe or Bernie, being who they are, would work WITH her as a partner, not her boss.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
11. I think Bernie would work WITH her. Warren has been pretty outspoken as to how
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 11:11 AM
Sep 2015

she feels about Biden's Wall Street-loving ways, though, and I don't think she would be allowed to counter that sort of thing.
I don't think she would be useful, really, to anyone but Bernie. The others - just window dressing.

How has Joe actually been more important? Serious question. I think he is just more visible because he is so affable.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
13. Biden's 'Wall Street Loving Ways' is a misrepresentation.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 11:22 AM
Sep 2015

I'm with her, I HATE the stuff he's done that she's referring to, but Joe has never bought stock, for example, lest his holdings affect his votes, never met with lobbyists, etc., The banking vote, IMO, was done in a misguided loyalty to the largest employer in his State. (I secretly think he deeply regrets it, and some other What Were You Thinking?? actions, but may not even admit that himself.. I could be wrong).

I think she would help Biden do what's right. He is a good man in a field of men and women who follow the bottom line instead of doing what's right.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
14. I think we just have to agree to disagree, then. :-)
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 11:28 AM
Sep 2015

But I appreciate your answer. Still - what exactly has Biden done as VP that makes him more important or whatever than other VP's? He is just more visible, IMO. The VP really does not do anything on his own. Always reminded me of the situation in England, the Queen as opposed to parliament. Ornamental.
The situation with Anita Hill rankles, too. Anyway, a candidate who has a lot of stuff he has done that he needs to feel sorry for - that does not do anything for me.

This primary sure is interesting. And so full of trial balloons we could have a festival!

gateley

(62,683 posts)
15. That's okay, I'm used to disagreeing with almost everybody when it comes to Biden. :-)
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 11:42 AM
Sep 2015

As VP, he brought a lot of inter-party cooperation experience (he was able to get some agreement on a few things, like the old days, it's the new rabid group of R's that pretty much shut them down) and serious foreign experience chops. For e.g., he advised Obama NOT to escalate in Afghanistan. Obama ultimately listened to the military (what did he think they would suggest???) but at least he extended his decision to consider Joe's suggestion. He knows (or knew) most of the world's leaders and had established relationships with all.

Yeah, the Anita Hill thing is another thing that irritates me, but I'm more puzzled than not because he ultimately voted AGAINST Thomas, but his behavior during the hearing was whacky.

Whoever gets the nomination, I'm the first in line to vote for him/her. I may not like the ultimate "winner" but no Dem could make my blood run cold like seeing a Republican enter the Oval Office.

I can hardly wait until the debates because as Bernie keeps saying, the majority of people don't know who he is. Hopefully more than political junkies will tune in. :=)

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
10. I would be happy if she would just endorse Bernie.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 11:07 AM
Sep 2015

That would be Game Over. Just for the record, I doubt seriously if she will weigh in until the nominee has been decided but I can dream.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
12. I think (just IMO) that those for whom her endorsement would mean something are probably
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 11:14 AM
Sep 2015

already in Bernie's camp, don't you think?

But yeah, it would be nice to get an endorsement pre-primary vote.

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