Get Ready For Continual Shut Down Mania & Anarchy.

[TheMastersNemesis]

We are facing having to terrorize these crazies before they put an end to the US and destroy the economy. We are in a very dangerous period whether we know it or not. The Planned Parenthood war is only just the beginning. There are more draconian and destructive ideas in the works. The LGBT battle is just the beginning for these assholes. The want to overturn the entire government and install THEIR theocracy and ideology.

We must understand that we are sitting on top of a political volcano. We can hear the cheers from the psychopathic right when the resignation was announced. You cannot deal with these crazies and more than you can negotiate with ISIS.

[virtualobserver]

1. I agree, but I think that we are seeing the death throes of the Republican Party

[TheMastersNemesis]

2. One Can Only Hope. But I Am Not That Optimistic.

[jberryhill]

3. I've heard that so many times

[virtualobserver]

4. I understand your skepticism

but I do think that the Boehner resignation is a tipping point.

[lapfog_1]

27. much like Al Qaeda was replaced by the even more radical ISIS

I worry about the teapublicans taking over the republicans.

[geek75]

29. Not if we don't make it to the polls

If democrats would vote we would but at the rate we voted in 2010 and 2014 will lead to republican domination. No excuses for not voting.

[jalan48]

34. In name only.

Many Democrats are 'moderate' 80's Republicans. There is no 'far left' to balance the far right crazies. The US has moderate, conservative and extreme right wing these days.

[Orsino]

36. The death throes of the Republic...

...if half of our elibible voters go right on supporting this corrupt stupidity. As they always do.

[MohRokTah]

5. IT looks to me lke Boehner is staying long enough to get a continuing resolution passed.

With Dem help that should be a slam dunk.

That means the next opportunity to shut it down comes right before the 2016 election, when shutting down the government would be massive GOP suicide.

[virtualobserver]

7. unless they oust him first

[MohRokTah]

8. That would be political suicide on the part of those doing it.

He announced his resignation, any attempt to oust him before it takes effect would end up with the party supporter challengers etc. for anybody foolish enough to do so.

[virtualobserver]

10. not if he was "betraying" the party by making a deal with Pelosi

[MohRokTah]

11. The deal with Pelosi is to guarantee the government does not break down.

The leadership of the party does not want that.

They'll never oust him before the resignation takes effect. Both the continuing resolution and the debt limit are now non-issues until the next presidency.

[virtualobserver]

12. the "leadership" may not be in charge

[MohRokTah]

13. The most definitely are.

There are only a few dozen rogue members of the GOP caucus causing all of this. The party leadership will throw them all under the bus without a thought and give up the majority if that's what it takes.

Government shutdowns and a debt limit crisis are bad for business, and the vast majority of the GOP caucus is all about big business.

[virtualobserver]

15. they might throw the party leadership under the bus

[MohRokTah]

16. The rogues don't have that kind of power, and the leadership knows it.

The only reason they can threaten the Speaker is pure partisan numbers, and the vote for the Speaker is a vote of the entire Congress. All other leadership positions are 100% partisan but the Leader's gavel is a vote of the entire Congress. If it takes too man ballots because the rogues won't budge, Pelosi will cut a deal with one GOP candidate for the gavel and the rogues will be frozen out of the prime committee asignments etc.

[virtualobserver]

17. the Rogues can threaten to vote present if the Repub leadership does not do their bidding

[MohRokTah]

18. And the Dems can put up enough numbers to counter that.

The Speaker's gavel is not elected in partisan caucus committees.

If the rogues force the leadership to fall back on Democratic support to have a gavel holder, the rogue will be completely frozen out of the Congress and what's left of the Republican caucus will willingly work with the Dems on everything after such a debacle.

[virtualobserver]

19. I'm talking about the "rogues" threatening to throw it to Pelosi

if the leadership does not obey them

[MohRokTah]

20. Then the Leadership would call their bluff let that happen. eom

[bottomofthehill]

6. Next chance will be long before that

The Debt Limit vote is coming up soon.

[MohRokTah]

9. The debt limit will be reached in October

Boehner is staying through October.

The Democrats will save the Republicans from themselves on both the continuing resolution and the debt limit, setting up the next fight just weeks ahead of the 2016 election when pulling the trigger on either would guarantee massive GOP losses.

This fight is going to be neutralized until the next president has been firmly established in office.

[backscatter712]

14. My guess is Boehner is falling on his sword to pass a budget that will last through the election.

So all the right-wingers are going to throw a hissy-fit, but Boehner's going to muster the Democrats and a few Republicans to pass a budget that doesn't defund Planned Parenthood, and raise the debt ceiling, and so on, until the 2016 election.

Of course, he's resigning because he knows he'll get forced out for doing that.

Boehner doesn't want the Republicans to shut down the government just as election season is winding up.

[avebury]

21. If he is resigning then he doesn't have to play ball with the crazies.

For a short while he can pull together whatever group it takes to get some stuff passed.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

22. Nope. Three months.

After Christmas, all bets are off.

Of course, General Election year politics puts some restraining factor on them, but basically, next year's Congress will be a circus; the new speaker will be Barnum; and it will be a nasty show.

[backscatter712]

24. Then the Republicans get to decide if they want to shut down the government in an election year.

That'll be fun to watch.

Seriously, I think Boehner's going to do his damnedest to kick that football past November 2016 to avoid an election year shutdown.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

26. It's out of his hands

The Tea Party faction figures they can't lose shutting down he government, and they are now running the show. They'll predicate any reopening on not only defunding Planned Parenthood, but rolling back the ACA as well. When the people are screaming because the government is shut down, they'll go on FAUX and scream that it's Obama's fault that the government is closed; that the vets aren't getting medical care; that grandma isn't getting her Social Security check -- and that if he'd only listen to the will of the people, things would be right as rain.

Oh..and they'll also re-fire Benghazi hearings (now featuring declassified Hillary e-mails), and threaten (but probably not proceed with) impeachment.

I hope that I'm wrong, but I'm increasingly convinced that in January 2017, we're going to see a Republican President and a very hard-right Congress. It's potentially going to be a very ugly four years.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

23. "We are facing having to terrorize these crazies before they put an end to the US..."

What, exactly, are you suggesting?

[workinclasszero]

25. "Get Ready For Continual Shut Down Mania & Anarchy."

This is what happens when you put economic terrorists in charge of your government!

[HooptieWagon]

28. True, but....

The '16 GE is just over a year away, and the crazies will most likely do enough damage to put a severe hurting on the GOP's chances. Even as a coalition, the tea baggers and Talibornagain represent a minority of voters.

[geek75]

31. Not in 2010 and 2014

If democrats don't vote regularly we will continue to see the tea party in power. Democrats spend so much time aguing over Bernie and Hillary that we forget how dangerous the tea party will be. I'm voting for Bernie but any democrat who doesn't back the den winner no matter who it is is essentially supporting the tea party.

[workinclasszero]

32. The nazis were a miniority party at first

They just needed 51% to get in. And the rest is history.

And even though they may be a minority(I'm not so sure about that) they have a HUGE megaphone spewing lies and hate 24/7.

Fox "news" 24/7 on every cable/satellite system, hate radio polluting the airwaves 24/7 and all those randian/republican churches every sunday.

Plus the koch bros, walton heirs, that vegas casino owner, on and on..etc...Trump...BILLIONS to back these anti-american assholes.

[geek75]

30. Continual shutdown

These tea party nuts want continual shutdown until their entire agenda is passed. Boehner was awful but the tea party is even worse.

[nruthie]

35. I totally agree. Scary times.

[daleanime]

33. It's a fight they will lose.....

problem is we will have to beat them repeatedly and thoroughly before it will sink in. The next three years will not be fun, but they will be interesting.