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So did the Democrats just decide to let the crazydam burst (re Boehner)? (Original Post) Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2015 OP
Democrats? What did they do as to Boehner? randys1 Sep 2015 #1
Dems in house could have backed him in a Speaker chair challenge. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #3
And they are also going to be relied on to pass a non PP defund bill to keep the randys1 Sep 2015 #4
That will be their excuse for a shutdown. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #5
THere are enough votes to avoid that, always has been, so the question is does the randys1 Sep 2015 #6
IDK. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #8
Well, since we know they want to harm as many Americans as they can, as badly as they can randys1 Sep 2015 #9
Just poor ones... HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #12
Democrats never backed him. former9thward Sep 2015 #15
As recently as this past spring... HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #16
A hypothetical which did not happen. former9thward Sep 2015 #19
I think that's the plan. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #2
The ONLY thing Boehner has going for him is that the next one will be worse. world wide wally Sep 2015 #7
Agreed. He was just the rusty gate keeping the vicious dogs penned in. Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2015 #10
Democrats had nothing to do with this one. Warpy Sep 2015 #11
Sounds like Democrats could have helped preserve the status quo. Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2015 #17
Nope - this is Bohner's Coup De-tat on house Dems FreakinDJ Sep 2015 #13
Nothing's gonna get done in an election year anyway. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2015 #14
Apparently they did Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2015 #18
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
3. Dems in house could have backed him in a Speaker chair challenge.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:51 PM
Sep 2015

As before. But they decided to cut him loose.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
4. And they are also going to be relied on to pass a non PP defund bill to keep the
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:53 PM
Sep 2015

government going, so the new speaker will have to defy the crazies day one.

right?

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
5. That will be their excuse for a shutdown.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:57 PM
Sep 2015

Obama has already said he would veto a budget that cuts PP.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
6. THere are enough votes to avoid that, always has been, so the question is does the
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:57 PM
Sep 2015

new Terrorist in chief let them vote or not.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
8. IDK.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:03 PM
Sep 2015

Looks like tea party will control house leadership and all committees. I don't think they'll let a budget bill including PP funding come to a vote on floor. They WANT a showdown with Obama over this, even if it means a shutdown.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
9. Well, since we know they want to harm as many Americans as they can, as badly as they can
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:04 PM
Sep 2015

you could be right.

They are terrorists who wish to cause death and destruction.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
2. I think that's the plan.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:49 PM
Sep 2015

A full year before the GE...give the GOP the rope to hang themselves with. While a years worth of shutdowns, impeachments, and votes to kill ObamaCare will be stupid, the voters will probably realize the GOP is batshit crazy and wants to destroy the govt not run it.

world wide wally

(21,742 posts)
7. The ONLY thing Boehner has going for him is that the next one will be worse.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:01 PM
Sep 2015

I wouldn't consider him a "friend" of any kind… or even reasonable beyond relative terms

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,834 posts)
17. Sounds like Democrats could have helped preserve the status quo.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:57 PM
Sep 2015

They just didn't think it was worth it at this point.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
13. Nope - this is Bohner's Coup De-tat on house Dems
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:25 PM
Sep 2015

Kaos will reign supreme and it will be 24/7 RepubliCON talking points in the News Cycle - hopefully to propel their candidate into the white house

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
14. Nothing's gonna get done in an election year anyway.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 05:33 PM
Sep 2015

Nothing to lose by keeping the camera trained on the crazy train.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
18. Apparently they did
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 06:00 PM
Sep 2015

and, may I say, good for them. I know that, relatively speaking, Boehner may not be as bad as whoever is likely to follow him but he's pretty much gone along with the crazies every since he became Speaker and his tenure as Speaker of the House has been marked by little than throwing our historically stable federal government (regardless of party) into near constant turmoil over the budget causing/threatening a shutdown and/or debt default just about every other year since 2011. Hopefully, he is staying on until the end of October to help ensure that there won't be a shutdown (what's he got to lose at this point, right?) and that we will be able to keep things running-more or less- smoothly through the end of Obama's Presidency.

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