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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums‘This wasn’t an abortion': CNN forces anti-Planned Parenthood group to admit Fiorina was wrong
But if youre talking about organ harvesting and abortions and how terrible they are why would you use a stillborn fetus, which is not a function of an abortion? Cuomo asked.Its the same baby, whether its born dead or alive, whether the organs are harvested or not, Daleiden replied.
Its also completely irrelevant to the point youre trying to make, which is, Look at what they do to these babies,' the CNN host pressed. It was born stillborn. It was not aborted. Doesnt that matter to you if youre talking about abortion?
Its the same kind of fetus, Daleiden continued to insist.
My point is context, Cuomo shot back. Youre saying, what they do in abortions, that wasnt an abortion. Thats my point.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/this-wasnt-an-abortion-cnn-forces-anti-planned-parenthood-group-to-admit-fiorina-was-wrong/
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)just 'create your own reality' wherein a stillborn child is exactly the same thing as an abortion.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)I truly believe the PP smear will cost the Republicans dearly, as Boehner knew and so quit. Letting the idiots of the party take all the blame and derision they all so richly deserve.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Human?
Really, this is why the right is constantly ridiculed for doing things like 'make American great!' commercials that use pictures of Chinese steelworkers or English pastures. They don't actually start from facts and reality, they decide upon what they want to be reality, and then just pull together whatever stock footage they think depicts the reality they want.
ProfessorGAC
(65,010 posts)Same kind? Yeah, it wasn't a Klingon. So it's the same kind. Well, they're ALL the same kind ain't they?
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,010 posts)Vogon_Glory
(9,117 posts)Two points about Daleiden getting busted in this interview:
First, it looks that for whatever "noble" reasons Daleiden used that footage, he was presenting false evidence as real.
Second: women currently bearing children or planning to bear children ought to take note of Daleiden's mindset. A mindset that insists on equating stillborn and aborted fetuses is also the sort of mindset that would pass legislation that would prosecute and imprison women not just for having or seeking abortions, but for having miscarriages as well.
malaise
(268,968 posts)Fuck the ReTHUGs
Human101948
(3,457 posts)Inquiring minds want to know!
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)It wasn't stillborn, but it was delivered before the point of fetal viability - which, for all the Republican trolls we may have lurking here, means the age before the fetus can survive outside the womb. Not even in a nation with advanced medical care would this fetus have been able to survive, because its lungs haven't gotten to the point where they can extract oxygen from air.
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)sued and have to pay for their misrepresentation and defamation.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)fadedrose
(10,044 posts)has a nice ring.....
CanSocDem
(3,286 posts)...and for Chris Cuomo who was relentless in calling out Daleiden. As it always nice to stray from MSNBC when Nicole is a guest, I tuned into CNN just in time to watch the interview.
CNN surprises me sometimes...
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floriduck
(2,262 posts)A) Questioning Cecile Richard's salary; B) What PP's monthly travel budget is; C) How can PP be a non-profit if its annual donations exceeds its expenses and on and on.
They don't even attempt to look and sound legitimate. If I could only select which legislators my tax dollars go to.....
Vinca
(50,269 posts)if this group really did add audio about keeping it alive to harvest the brain. It's such a horrible, horrible claim I hope PP sues them into oblivion.
vankuria
(904 posts)who allowed her baby's image to be used this way.
cry baby
(6,682 posts)jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Why do I get the strange feeling this was from a hospital in the Third World?
Ligyron
(7,632 posts)The mother said the pics were of a preemie they named Walter who only lived a few minutes and never mentioned anyone wanting to harvest it's brain.
The film part(s) were really old from the looks of 'em and several ob/gyn docs who watched it later said from the equip used and background, etc., it may well have been from another country entirely and as long as 15 years ago from the protocol.
Yeah, they most def did a voice over alrite.
cry baby
(6,682 posts)term abortion that was in the video.
How do they get away with the lies??? They infuriate me!