I am curious about the government shutdown

[question everything]

No, it is not going to happen until December, if at all.

The supposedly adults among the Republicans - yes, everything is relative - feared a shutdown because it hurt the Republicans when Cruz flexed his muscles in 2013.

Hurt the Republicans? A year later they increased their numbers in both the House and the Senate.

So why doesn't Cruz carry this as a badge of honor?

Just wondering.

[question everything]

1. Anyone? (nt)

[Kingofalldems]

2. The public forgot and the media let them control the message.

[question everything]

4. Thanks. Wish that our side were better at controlling the message

I remember before the 2014 Elizabeth Warren was making the rounds, trying to enlighten the public about the achievements that the Obama administration and the Democratic Congress, I wondered why we did not have more like her. As far as articulating the issues at.. I don't know, eight grade level?

[Major Nikon]

3. You're talking about people who don't have a firm grip on reality

As inept as Boehner was, he was still the glue that kept their crazy train from running off the rails. Now that the nuts are running the asylum, the total collapse of the GOP can't be that far away. The extremists will finally get their wish of a party that is pure as the driven slush, but it will inevitably drive off any unified national power the GOP might hope to hold on to. If they blow another presidential election, and this one is shaping up for just that, the GOP will segment and never survive as a regional party. The GOP has proven they are completely incapable of change and if they don't change, demographics will drive them out of business.

[question everything]

5. In California in the 90s, Republicans lost all state offices

because their "state on principles" won the primaries but lost the general elections.

As much as we wish the demise of the GOP as it is evolving now, we really should be worried about this event. Will not surprise me if all the ones strutting around with their guns on their hips will declare war on any government officials.

[Major Nikon]

6. There will undoubtedly be some who go off the reservation

But remember those who can't seem to leave home without precious do so because they are afraid of their own shadow to begin with.

[Yupster]

7. Cruz does carry it

as a badge of honor.