Rise in overcrowded housing, overcrowded = More than one person per room

[Liberal_in_LA]

EXCLUSIVE: Rise in overcrowded NYC apartments shows need for more housing, says Controller Scott Stringer


Perhaps most alarmingly, the number of studio apartments citywide with three or more residents has jumped 365% from 3,614 in 2005 to an amazing 24,557 in 2013.

The borough with the most overcrowded studios got way worse, with a 443% increase — that’s 12,615 additional studio apartments considered overcrowded in 2013.

All told New York City's overcrowding is now nearly triple the national average, with nearly one in 10 units — 8.8% — of rentals and homes deemed overcrowded in 2013.

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Stringer said the growing trend toward cramped living makes for unhealthy conditions by exacerbating asthma, creates dangerous illegal apartments, and sometimes forces families into homeless shelters.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/exclusive-surge-number-overcrowded-nyc-apartments-article-1.2385078

[RKP5637]

1. Hmmmm ... likely the exorbitant rent is also a reason 3+ share a studio. n/t

[w0nderer]

3. rent/living cost supposedly (according to immigration authorities)

should be 25% of paycheck
hah! never seen a paycheck that big or a rent that low

[RKP5637]

6. That's after 4+ people are in the NYC studio sharing rent! LOL!!! n/t

[w0nderer]

7. wouldn't be surprised

lowest rent i ever had was killed off by county
4 'families' one house

renter+gf
workbuddy of renter
secondhand renter+gf
me

we each paid $450 all included cept phone (internet, water, trash...)
that was 5 years ago

we still had, cept for the gf pairings, one room each

[Jesus Malverde]

2. Part of this is the influx of ten million immigrants

Who are competing for the same affordable housing as the working poor. Demand is high for affordable apartments in the face of a demographic bulge.

We've seen the same phenomena in California especially LA, where Hispanics have displaced entire black neighborhoods.

http://www.economist.com/node/9587776

[Skittles]

4. HELLO

if you make housing unaffordable, people will share to make it affordable....it's what happens when wages stagnate, all the profits go to the 1% and costs of EVERYTHING keep going up

[w0nderer]

8. right!

amazing how that happens

lock the wages raise the cost, then go 'why are they doing that?'

[Massacure]

5. One person per room is an interesting threshold.

Having gone to college though, renting a two bedroom apartment with three other buddies was a step up from dorm living.

[w0nderer]

9. having gone through army (non us)

less than 24 people to a room
less than beds 3 high

but there is a difference between them
and what's supposed to be 'civilian' living
for people that might want a family
or at least have a girlfriend without renting a room at the local 'wham bam thanx mam' motel


i'd say one room one person is pretty normal unless extremely romantic
and i've spent a few years in a traveltrailer (caravan/rv) with 2 people

great till i got a girlfriend then it sucked

[dembotoz]

10. funny this should come up last week i was talking with a friend in really crap financial straights

she said that doubling up was perhaps the wave of the future.

and now this thread....

was pondering her moving in with me for a while, but she has an oversized dog that would not
be allowable with the condo police where i live.
and yes they would report instantly


like the stazi

[flamingdem]

11. I think it's not okay

for so many to live together. It's easier when you're in your twenties but I shudder to think of older adults, used to living alone, being forced to share small spaces.