If your child commits a crime, you should be charged with a felony.

[cigsandcoffee]

It's time to get tough on crime.

This means if you make the child, you are responsible for the child.

If your child commits a crime:

$1000 = first offense.
$5000 = second offense, lose right to make new children. Forever.


___________________________

What could go wrong?

[stone space]

1. This is truely offensive and should be hidden.

Children are not deadly weapons, and should not be treated as if they are.

This OP is dehumanizing in the extreme.

[LittleBlue]

2. The OP isn't directly comparing weapons with children

He's only pointing out an obvious similarity: neither parents nor gun owners can control what other people do.

[stone space]

5. The OP is dehumanizing children.

Children are not deadly weapons.

What the OP is suggesting is for us to treat our own children the same way that we treat would treat dangerous inanimate objects.

But children are human beings, and suggestions that children be treated like deadly inanimate objects is horrifying to read right here on DU.

[stone space]

7. There is no similarity between dehumanizing guns and dehumanizing children.

He's only pointing out an obvious similarity: neither parents nor gun owners can control what other people do.

Guns are not human beings to begin with, so dehumanizing guns is a non-issue.

If the OP had decided to dehumanize guns instead of children, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

The dehumanization of inanimate objects such as guns is a non-issue for most living breathing human beings, and should not be used to justify the dehumanization of children under any circumstances.

[LittleBlue]

23. The jury saw it my way

[dumbcat]

36. There is no dehumanizing going on

except in your head.

[Decoy of Fenris]

10. After giving it some thought, can you name a murderer who wasn't someone's child?

We're obviously playing semantic games at this point, but it's an interesting point even outside the whole "gun control" drama.

[cigsandcoffee]

15. I think it is worth discussing. Aren't dog owners charged if their pets kill someone?

Children are a huge responsibility. Too often, parents neglect that responsibility, and their out-of-control kids do harm to people or property. If there were penalties in place for shirking parental duty, maybe there would be fewer juveniles in the justice system, and on the path to adult prison.

Forced sterilization has been used by quite a few countries - some of them quite progressive, like Sweden. It's not something I'd like to see, but I'm not unwilling to hear about charging parents with crimes when their kids are out of control and a menace to society.

[stone space]

32. Children aren't dogs. Nor are they owned by anybody.

And your support for forced sterilization is hardly surprising, given your OP.

Are folks supposed to be surprised?

[pintobean]

21. It's just mocking a dumb post.

It made me laugh, so I recced it.

Chill.

[stone space]

22. Was the "dumb post" also dehumanizing children?

If so, then it certainly deserved to be mocked, and mocked severely (as well as being hidden), but not by repeating the same dehumanization all over again.

[pintobean]

27. Neither of them are.

[GGJohn]

43. Wow, coming from you, this is true comedy gold.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172166120

[sharp_stick]

3. Well it took awhile

usually I find a dumbest post of the day nominee earlier than 3:45 Eastern.

[trueblue2007]

4. it sure is a stupid post. lololol

[Iggo]

6. If you see your guns as your babies, then this analogy makes perfect sense.

[stone space]

8. America Reacts

?w=500

[stone space]

9. Jury Results

Automated Message

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your alert

Mail Message



On Wed Oct 7, 2015, 02:40 PM you sent an alert on the following post:

If your child commits a crime, you should be charged with a felony.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027240706

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

YOUR COMMENTS

Offensive bullshit treating children as if they are deadly weapons.

Please hide this bullshit.

It has no place on a Democratic site.



JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Wed Oct 7, 2015, 02:59 PM, and voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: it is a stupid post but it is not against DU rules. for one thing, the government can not make people STOP HAVING CHILDREN. and the Constitution doesn't even give the RIGHT TO HAVE CHILDREN. This is a very stupid post but not against the rules.

Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It's an opinion. Lousy but an opinion.

Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Hide it, no. People can still read it. Hiding everything that offends us does nothing to educate people, it's a stupid opinion. Not sure how stupid opinions violate the rules here.

Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't see it as the alerter does at all.

Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

12. You always have resented dissent.

[stone space]

17. I resist the dehumanization of children.

We do not need to treat our children as if they are intimate objects, and certainly not as if they are deadly weapons.

[cigsandcoffee]

24. Honestly, what's so great about children? Hitler, Pol Pot, and Ted Bundy were children once.

Children can be very, very evil. I specifically remember when Kathleen McBride, in the second grade, ratted me out to a teacher for something she knew I didn't do. She knew it.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

31. I love good kids

I hate the evil little fucks though.

[Lizzie Poppet]

34. They're great...but I can never finish a whole one.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

35. Considering how you distort the definition of words to meet your agenda

your interpretation of "dehumanization" is contorted.

[snooper2]

13. guess it is obvious who alerted LOL, people need to change their verbiage up a bit

at least keep us guessing!

[stone space]

18. Why? I don't understand what the purpose would be.

people need to change their verbiage up a bit at least keep us guessing!

[bettyellen]

11. if you allow them to have the weapon involved- yes.

[onenote]

14. Yes to forced sterilization?

And what standard would be used to measure "allow"? Negligence or would it only apply where the child (what age?) is given a gun intentionally?

Should the same standard apply to parents that give the keys to a car to a minor and the minor uses the car in committing a felony?

[bettyellen]

37. My uterus is part of my body- not something I want to purchase. You want a gun- keep it secure.

[petronius]

16. What if your grandchild commits a crime? It's still your fault, and actually

you should be charged doubly because you had two opportunities to get it right.

On the other hand, if you commit a crime, you should be able to volunteer your children to pay the penalty - 'cause really, they owe you...


<insert tongue-in-cheek smiley here>

[Quackers]

42. Yeah.....

They tried making a tongue-in-cheek smiley. Let's just say it didn't come out looking right......

[onenote]

19. It's not often that where someone posts a thread to mock another thread

both threads turn out to be stupid.

But this is one of those cases.

[dembotoz]

20. silly post

[AzDar]

26. This is fucking stupid.

That is all.

[Bonx]

29. No more stupid than the post it is mocking.

[onenote]

38. The point is that they're both stupid.

Not sure how responding to a stupid OP with an OP that is at least as stupid accomplishes anything, but maybe that's just me.

[Kelvin Mace]

28. Why stop at children?

What about spouses and pets?

If your cat, whacked out on the Nip, hijacks a Purina truck, shouldn't you do 7-10 for armed robbery?

[Boudica the Lyoness]

30. Well, I agree with this.

Too many dumb arses making criminal kids.

[onenote]

39. so you agree that if someone has a weapon and its stolen from them

and then used in a felony (not necessarily a crime with a loss of life), the government should forcibly tie that person's tubes or make them undergo a hysterectomy (if it's a woman) or have a vasectomy (or just be castrated) if its a man?

Wow.

[saturnsring]

33. this is so clever and not childish at all

[Dont call me Shirley]

40. OMG WTF!

[KamaAina]

41. In some places, parents are legally responsible for their kids' truancy from school.

Is that harsh enough for you?