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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:02 AM Oct 2015

Noonan says “Thanks Obama” for Trump, Carson, etc. putting the shiv into her fav JEB!.

Friday, October 16, 2015
PEGGY NOONAN: YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE IS OBAMA'S FAULT? THE RISE OF DONALD TRUMP.
Peggy Noonan looks at Donald Trump's continued dominance of the Republican presidential race and finds a culprit: Barack Obama.


The only thing I feel certain of is how we got here. There are many reasons we’re at this moment, but the essential political one is this: Mr. Obama lowered the bar. He was a literal unknown, an obscure former state legislator who hadn’t completed his single term as U.S. senator, but he was charismatic, canny, compelling. He came from nowhere and won it all twice. All previously prevailing standards, all usual expectations, were thrown out the window.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-biden-eclipse-and-the-trump-plateau-1444948741

Oh, right -- prior to Obama, we never elected a president who was unknown and obscure (Carter), or inexperienced (Lincoln), or youthfully charismatic (Kennedy, Clinton), did we?

But, of course, Trump wasn't unknown or obscure before he entered this race. He didn't come from nowhere. He's decades older than Obama was when he first ran, he's white rather than black, he hasn't mastered the issues in the way Obama had by 2008 (nor has he shown any interest in mastering them) -- and, where Obama was dignified and mostly soft-spoken, Trump is a trash-talking loudmouth and a buffoon. But other than that they're two peas in a pod, right, Peggy?

Who really lowered the bar? I'd say it was the party that not only reveres an ex-actor and insult comic named Ronald Reagan but seriously considered him as a possible presidential candidate when he'd been in elective office less than two years. I'd say it's the party that put George W. Bush and Dan Quayle on two tickets each. I'd say it's the party that gave respectful consideration to presidential aspirants such as Pat Robertson, Alan Keyes, Pat Buchanan, Michele Bachmann, and Herman Cain. And I say it's the party that made Sarah Palin its vice presidential candidate, then made her a superstar.

If the bar's low, Peggy, your party's voters are the reason.

http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2015/10/peggy-noonan-you-know-what-else-is.html#links
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Noonan says “Thanks Obama” for Trump, Carson, etc. putting the shiv into her fav JEB!. (Original Post) kpete Oct 2015 OP
The problem is that Obama is so good he made it look easy Renew Deal Oct 2015 #1
LOL! Octafish Oct 2015 #2
So she is really blaming the voters who elected Obama for Trump? yellowcanine Oct 2015 #3
Noonan is equating Trump with OBAMA?! Lowering the bar?! Hortensis Oct 2015 #4
This is a pathetic stretch even for Ms Noonington. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2015 #5
They have to pander to prejudices and fears in order to cobble together a coalition. dawg Oct 2015 #6
Other Things That Are Obama's Fault Yavin4 Oct 2015 #7
I thought everything was Obama's fault? God just can't control him. nt kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #8
LOL. Hacks gotta hack, you know. closeupready Oct 2015 #9
Excellent reply nt MrScorpio Oct 2015 #10

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
1. The problem is that Obama is so good he made it look easy
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:11 AM
Oct 2015

And he came from nowhere and won it all once. He was in the white house the second time. People overwhelmingly chose him twice.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Noonan is equating Trump with OBAMA?! Lowering the bar?!
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:29 AM
Oct 2015

Of all the nerve. This is a woman who made a career of worshiping at the feet of a man whose main qualification for president was that he was an actor. A man who was estranged from his own children but had a talent for giving gullible conservatives the warm fuzzies.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,834 posts)
5. This is a pathetic stretch even for Ms Noonington.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:37 AM
Oct 2015

I have to ask, what was it that qualified a partisan speech writer to be come a syndicated political pundit?

dawg

(10,624 posts)
6. They have to pander to prejudices and fears in order to cobble together a coalition.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:54 AM
Oct 2015

Otherwise, they'd be stuck with 10% of the vote: the 1% who actually benefit (in the short-term) from their policies, and the 9% who are dumb enough to *think* that they do.

So in order to have any chance at reaching 50%, they need to pander to racists, sexists, homophobes, anti-choicers, gun fanatics, religious fantatics, anti-Semites, Muslim-haters, war-hawks, and people who are generally terrified of anyone different from themselves.

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
7. Other Things That Are Obama's Fault
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:19 AM
Oct 2015

1. Scrappy Doo
2. Steve Bartman
3. Jar Jar Binks
4. The Kardashians
5. The Star Wars Christmas Special

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