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dae

(3,396 posts)
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:46 AM Oct 2015

I was told to move this from LBN to GD and GDammit I did!

Guess Who Else Is a Socialist?

Source: New York Times Op Ed

One of the side benefits of a well-watched national political debate is the exposure it brings to something obscure and forgotten — like Denmark. Who doesn’t love a country that gave us a dish of frikadeller and rugbrod to go with paid parental leave and universal health care?
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“I love Denmark,” said Hillary Clinton during Tuesday’s debate, by way of dismissing a quasi-socialist nation of 5.7 million mostly white people as not the best place to look for solving the problems of a multiethnic democracy of 322 million.

But in fact, the United States may be closer to Denmark than many think. In the reddest of red states — say, Idaho — you can find the kind of socialism, through publicly owned utilities or the federal dam that farmers rely on for their water, that would be right at home among aquavit-sipping Danes.
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She also said, “We are not Denmark.” Nope. Not by any stretch. Denmark has a slightly higher tax load on its citizens than the United States. But it also has budget surpluses, universal health care, shorter working hours, and was recently rated by Forbes magazine as the best country in the world for business.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/16/opinion/guess-who-else-is-a-socialist.html?_r=0
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I was told to move this from LBN to GD and GDammit I did! (Original Post) dae Oct 2015 OP
K&R..... daleanime Oct 2015 #1
"We are not Denmark" is a racist dog whistle Scootaloo Oct 2015 #2
Absolutely true. floriduck Oct 2015 #3
Did you duck out of Florida? JimDandy Oct 2015 #6
Yes, I took the name when I lived floriduck Oct 2015 #8
I did not like those remarks by Clinton tabasco Oct 2015 #4
jeez Tobasco olddots Oct 2015 #5
And thank you for moving it libodem Oct 2015 #7
Hey, I live 4 rules and majored in bad grammar! dae Oct 2015 #10
Media has no intention of educating dumbasses WhaTHellsgoingonhere Oct 2015 #9
Damn leftists RobertEarl Oct 2015 #11
Yup, plus food and healthcare for all dae Oct 2015 #12
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
2. "We are not Denmark" is a racist dog whistle
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:00 PM
Oct 2015

"We are not Denmark" is an allusion to demographics. See this post here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251677085

Denmark is Caucasian by a large margin, and most of those white people are ethnically Danish.

The argument "We are not Denmark" is an argument that somehow, people of color and a larger immigrant population means we can't have nice things like single-payer healthcare, or well-funded schools, or strong environmental protections. It's used by racist, right-wing politicians to shift blame from their ideology onto brown people.

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
3. Absolutely true.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:04 PM
Oct 2015

I live in WA state where my electricity comes from one of many public utilities and our rates are less than those of private energy producers. Remember Enron???

But many people don't or won't drill down to understand how many socialistic businesses benefit them. It's easier to just criticize the word, Socialism. That way, no thought process is required.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
4. I did not like those remarks by Clinton
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:10 PM
Oct 2015
"We're Murkans, we can't do stuff like them puny little Yurpeen countries!"

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
11. Damn leftists
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:03 PM
Oct 2015

If they had their way we'd have a transportation network that anyone could use. We'd have parks that everyone could stroll in. Free education for kids. They even want a justice system where everyone is equal!!

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