Congratulations DNC on Kentucky Governorship

[Cosmic Kitten]

Once again the DNC has handed
the GOP ANOTHER Governorship

Congratulations DWS for yet another
lackluster effort to turn a red state blue.

Despite the POLLS showing Jack Conway (D)
within the margin of error of Matt Bevin (R)
the DNC FAILED to GOTV.

The incompetent or absent efforts of the DNC
resulted in a 30% voter turnout... 30%!

Yes, Jack Conway is kinda *moderate* and
has flip-flopped/Evolved on issues,
but do voters know or even care about issues?
Who need healthcare after all???

Maybe Hillary could have given us a preview
of her enormous *coattails* and helped her
party win a Governorship by throwing her weight
into Conway's campaign? Nah, she's too busy for that.

Its weird?
Jack Conway was doing REALLY WELL in
the POLLS and then *poof* he lost???

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2015-kentucky-governor-bevin-vs-conway

Congratulations to DWC and the DNC
for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

1. Turnout was lower than I thoguht in Ohio too.

40.95% or so of registered voters. Early on, I thought we were on track to have a 50% turnout, but I guess more populated precincts were getting their returns in ahead of less sparsely populated ones.

ETA - I'm in a market that saw the tv ad campaign from Kentucky, since I'm down here in the southwest of Ohio. All of the ads I remember were negative, with Bevin being attacked pretty much entirely for not paying his taxes a lot, and Conway being tied over and over again to Obama. So running against Obama got Repubs out to vote, while voting against a tax dodger did not get Dems out.

[Cosmic Kitten]

2. Voter turnout reflects directly on the DNC

It's a well known fact that
democrats win with large
voter turnout.

The fact that the DNC sat on its hands,
and Hillary didn't help campaign for our
candidates should send a signal to
the democratic base.

It's all to clear we are on our own.
The party establishment is going
to let us go down the drain.

The DNC only cares about the
executive office and is willing to
sacrifice the down ballot races.

[Historic NY]

5. Conway spent 7 million and got no where. Your blaming the DNC....thats hillarious.

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/elections/kentucky/2015/10/08/conway-has-big-money-edge-over-bevin/73568278/

[Cosmic Kitten]

13. Apparently money doesn't win elections!

Someone should tell Hillary that.

Having the most money won't
buy votes, public support wins votes.

So what efforts did the DNC make?

[Dawgs]

49. Isn't that one of the DNC's responsibilities?

[ChiTownDenny]

83. Their is a distinction between

the DNC and the DGA.

link:https://democraticgovernors.org/#~pt5u5WrI1IEuZO

Founded in 1983, the Democratic Governors Association (DGA) is an independent voluntary political organization organized to support Democratic governors and candidates across the nation.

As the only organization dedicated to electing Democratic governors and candidates, the DGA participates at all levels of campaigns, from providing resources to fund operations to helping articulate and deliver their messages. The DGA also provides expert advice in policy areas to Democratic governors and candidates, with several policy conferences a year on topics such as biotechnology and life sciences and the new energy economy.

The DGA is proud to support the 19 Democratic governors who hold office now. We invite you to learn more about them, the upcoming races and how to be involved in the DGA.

[Perogie]

63. Example of why HRC will lose

She doesn't excite the crowds. She will only motivate Republican voters to get out to the polls.
Bernie is the only electable one.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

110. I actually just responded to another comment in another thread with basically the same comment.

That I consider Hillary only a 'draw' for Republican voters (against her) in a general.

[hifiguy]

117. Nobody will motivate more of the Repigs' cave-orc,

duck-fcking, barking-at-the-moon base to come out and vote more than HRH. NOBODY. She's worth an extra 1-2 million votes nationwide. For Republicans, while totally turning off and demotivating the liberal Dem base. Worst of both worlds, but we must bow before Her Inevitability and kiss her shoe.

Or not.

[wordpix]

125. in our local CT race, voter turnout was 21% total, R + D

ridiculous. People just pay their tax bill, not caring who's in charge and WTF they're doing in our municipality. Some of the stuff is absolutely illegal.

[fredamae]

3. I wonder if election records

would demonstrate DNC/DWS has More GOP Wins than RNC/Pribus?
I hope the GOP is "tipping" Debs handsomely.
(sarcasm)

[Cosmic Kitten]

6. I think DWS is ahead with *wins*

Remember the DNC Victory Task Force Report?

http://thehill.com/sites/default/files/democratic_victory_task_force_preliminary_findings.pdf

We have suffered devastating losses at all levels of government since 2008 including:
- 69 House Seats
- 13 Senate Seats
- 910 State Legislative Seats
- 30 State Legislative Chambers
- 11 Governorships....+1

Debbie has quite a *winning* streak there, eh?
<sarcasm thingy>

Here's How DWS proposed to change the trend:

• Having a clear, values-based narrative that unites us as Democrats and engages and appeals to the broadest swath possible of the American electorate.

• Creating strong accountable partnerships with active Democrats and all those who share our values in all 57 states and territories and Democrats Abroad.

• Proactively protecting and expanding every American’s right to vote.

• Building a three-election strategy for redistricting – at the state and federal level.

• Identifying and promoting the next generation of Democratic leaders, including citizen activists from a cross-section of backgrounds and walks of life.

How's that workin for Ya'll

[Gidney N Cloyd]

14. That's a pretty lackluster and uninspiring "plan."

Were there any measurable goals to go along with that ?

[Cosmic Kitten]

20. Read the report, it's pathetic

It basically boils down to,
we will recruit and promote
people who share our "values".

Now in the context of who wrote
the report it's clear that by "values"
DWS is referencing 3rd Way "values".

They have no interest in issues confronting
the working poor, PoC, organized labor and
the otherwise disenfranchised democrats.

It reads like a high school
debate club clique manifesto.
We support the people who
are exactly like us, the cool kids.

[fredamae]

26. Numbers Don't Lie and Yet

DWS is Still there. Sheesh.

[still_one]

4. yeah, that's right, blame it on everyone else but the voter. Kim Davis also had an effect on this

Kentucky has been a RED STATE for a long time. The governorship has been one of the few exceptions. However, the fact is, that Kentucky loves its guns, and Kim Davis.

and no matter who the Democratic nominee is, whether it is Bernie or Hillary, we are not going to win Kentucky until people in that state stop voting against their own interests

Obama lost that state both in 2008 and in 2012. In 2008 Howard Dean was the DNC chair, and still lost the state in spite of his 50 state strategy and good turnout

[Cosmic Kitten]

9. BLAME THE VOTER!!!!!

Yep, lather rinse repeat.

This will be the mantra if Hillary
goes to the general election and
gets whooped by Ben Carson or Donald Trump!!!!

It's the stupid voters,
not the party establishment!

[still_one]

18. Go peddle your wares over in GD:Primaries. You didn't even address why Obama lost Kentucky when

Howard Dean was the DNC chairman, and the turnout was good in 2008.

You sound like if Clinton wins the nomination, you would be happy if she lost the general election in that case, so you could spew your pseudo concerned, "I told you so"

[sufrommich]

19. Yep. nt

[Cosmic Kitten]

21. You making this personal, again

Go away.
Shoo
buzz off

[still_one]

25. I never called voters "stupid", YOU DID, and its not personal, this belongs in the primary group,

but I am not surprised your selective reading, and distortion of what I posted was ignored.

Was it Howard Dean's fault that Obama lost Kentucky in 2008 also?

[Cosmic Kitten]

27. You don't seen to know what *personal* means?

Possibly also *sarcasm* impaired?

Do us both a favor, ignore me.
Unless it's your job to cover opposing views

[still_one]

40. I never put anyone on ignore, sorry

[snooper2]

42. that only kind of works with real bugs, on the intertubes you get the opposite effect

On the intertubes you draw attention and say... SHOOO!

It just causes more people to flock to you! Just FYI

[MineralMan]

54. One of the few things you can't do on DU is

make people not post in your threads. You can tell them to go away, shoo, or buzz off as often as you like, but they can simply ignore your wishes and post anyhow.

That's the beauty of DU. Every DUer in good standing can post in any thread they choose in the main forums. You, however, can choose to put people on Ignore so you don't have to see their posts. We all can control what we see on DU.

Telling people not to post? That's not a very nice thing to do.

[Starry Messenger]

80. BINGO.

[WI_DEM]

71. Well, where was Bernie helping to gotv?

It goes both ways. If Hillary wasn't there--so too, was no Bernie helping to get all those new voters to the polls.

[Cosmic Kitten]

97. Hillary has the *coattails*...Bernie can't get elected, right?

You do follow the daily memes at DU?

[Proud Liberal Dem]

124. So

Are you agreeing that Bernie can't get elected/deliver more Democratic votes- because most Bernie supporters believe that he is the only one who can- and basically the only hope for our country in 2016?

[A Simple Game]

113. Just this morning on the car radio I heard them mention Carson

beating Trump and Hillary in some poll.

[Fuddnik]

59. You've got to give a voter someone/something to vote for.

Otherwise they say "Awww fuck it." And don't bother.

If Kentucky's Democratic Party is anything like Floriduh s, they actively recruit conservative, third-way types and undermine and kill off support for progressives.

[jeff47]

62. I'm sure continuing the strategy of yelling at voters will get them out any time now.

The problem is we keep giving voters reasons to vote against the Republican. We do not give voters reasons to vote for the Democrat.

Instead, we talk about how terrible Republicans are and how we can't do anything. We can't even try to do anything because ooooo those evil Republicans will stop us. Meanwhile we give away 6 weeks on abortion, giving Republicans a nice win.

Voters don't turn out because we stopped being Democrats and started being very small, terrified mice.

[AllyCat]

78. Oh, do the DNC should just stand back and let the

Voter decide? What's the point in having a DNC if they are not going to support Dem candidates???

[zipplewrath]

81. It's the off years that have the greatest opportunity

Off years, when participation is going to be in the 30% category is when the DNC has the greatest opportunity to deliver election victories based upon GOTV. On years participation will always be much higher. DWS consistent lack of any serious GOTV on these off years has been repetitive. You can talk about Kentucky, or any other single contest, but what you can't do is show where in an off year she's had any particular success. She has spent her entire time in office setting the stage for Hillary to the exclusion of anything else.

[upaloopa]

7. I guess the DNC is supposed to hold a gun to your head so you will get off your ass and vote.

People have their selves to blame for the government they get. Take responsibility for yourself. Actions or inaction have consequences.

[Cosmic Kitten]

11. WTF DOES the DNC do?

What efforts did DWS or the DNC
make to GOTV?

[fredamae]

24. ^^^^This-Right Here^^^^ n/t

[MineralMan]

56. I'm very involved in GOTV activism.

That's the job of the state and local party organizations and the candidates themselves. No national organization can do effective GOTV in a state. GOTV is local, right down to the individual precinct level.

The place you need to be looking is not the DNC, but the Democratic Party organization in that state.

[fredamae]

65. Pardon my naivete

but it is my understanding that State Dem Party Orgs/Leaders are in lock-step with the DNC. Is that wrong...they Don't coordinate?

[MineralMan]

69. Lock-step? I don't know about that.

Typically, the leadership of state Democratic Party organizations, though, are DNC members. Do they coordinate? Of course, but not at the level where GOTV is concerned. GOTV is local and relies on local efforts, usually by volunteers who work on GOTV activism.

Candidates for state offices generally have their own organizations, as well. How effective they are at fundraising and campaign functions varies widely from state to state. In red states, like Kentucky, it's often very difficult to successfully run for office as a Democrat.

But, yes, there is a connection between state party organizations and the DNC. I wouldn't use the words "in lock-step" though.

[fredamae]

72. Thanks for clarifying :) n/t

[Rex]

122. K&R for pissing off ALL the right people!

[Rex]

123. They don't care, their old and tired canards are all that is left.

I wish they would stop pretending to care about the party. Obviously they don't.

[tabasco]

12. So, the DNC has no responsibilities at all?

Please tell us, why does the DNC exist?

Your comment implies that the DNC has no responsibility for supporting Democratic state governor candidates.

Why shouldn't Democrats criticize the DNC if it fails in its stated missions?

Are you DWS' mom?

[Cosmic Kitten]

16. ^^^gets it^^^

Thanks

[restorefreedom]

53. "are you dws' mom? " lol nt

[treestar]

95. It doesn't have to exist

political parties are informal.

No it is not their job to make people vote. People have the right to do that if there were no Democratic Party at all. The Dem Party functions to get people organized.

[still_one]

22. Don't even waste your breath with the OP. It is obvious that this thread was started as an

excuse to bash the DNC and Hillary outside of the GD rimary forum.

It is typical flame bait.

[Cosmic Kitten]

23. Pointing out poor performance is *bashing*?

Poor victims of internet meanies

[still_one]

31. No, basing it on incorrect information based on the demographics of a RED STATE, is bashing

and illogical. Did Grimes lose because of the DNC, or because Kentucky loves their guns, and hates Obama?

Did Obama lose Kentucky in 2008 when Howard Dean was chairman?

You have the victim mentality, but I think there is no need for us to continue this dialog further, since we have already made our respective points to each other.

Have a pleasant day

[truebluegreen]

45. And they haven't had a Democratic governor in living memory...

oh, wait.

[still_one]

52. So if it is the DNC's fault for losing Kentucky, whose fault is it for the Democrats winning all

three open seats on Pennsylvania's Supreme Court? You can't have it both ways. If we lose a race and we automatically blame it on the DNC, whose fault is it if we win a race?

The Kentucky governorship is the exception. However, with the Kim Davis events, the Trump like fascination of Bevin's self-financed campaign, and Conway coming off a loss against Mcconnell, this was not the typical local election in Kentucky.

Also, Conway was accused of running a Grimes like campaign, with a lot of negative ads, which didn't help

It is not unlike Scott Brown's victory against Coakley in Massachucetts. Coakley ran a terrible campaign.

Also, Democrats still control Kentucky's state government.

[truebluegreen]

66. Nice deflection, but we were talking about Kentucky:

your post implied that of course Kentucky elected a Republican governor 'cause red state demographics; I disputed that, 'cause Beshear. That is the sum total of my comments in this thread, which you claim means I'm trying to have it both ways. Bootstrap much?

[still_one]

99. Not a deflection at all, just an example that different states have different values. You may not

agree, but the political landscape is very different this season. Trump style politics has caught on in states like Kentucky. I use the example of Rand Paul, who is like his father an outsider of the republican party. In addition, the controversy regarding the Kim Davis affair, and the extremely negative campaign that was run in Kentucky in this state race, made this far from business as usual.

However, the comment I directed in response to you was off base. Your assessment is correct, it was not appropriate in the context to you, and should have been directed toward the OP.

Appreciate you pointing out my illogical leap, thanks

[leftofcool]

30. Of course it is. But, that is to be expected.

[Dawgs]

50. It's one of their fucking jobs.

I you seriously suggesting that the DNC shouldn't work to get out the vote?

[treestar]

92. what's so funny about this

attitude is that it gives the DNC all the power. The same people complaining it is too powerful. Yet they can't lift a finger until the DNC makes them.

[tabasco]

8. Kentucky was already blue as far as the Governor.

So, we failed to keep a blue seat blue.

[Cosmic Kitten]

10. Makes it worse... McConnell and Rand though

[LonePirate]

15. If Bevin kills health care in the state, maybe it will jolt the inattentive electorate.

Frankly, by voting for Bevin or not voting at all, Kentuckians decided they don't want health care. They need to reap what they sow.

[Cosmic Kitten]

17. That will be the *autopsy report* if Hillary loses the GE

[still_one]

33. You have a Hillary fixation? One might be led to believe if Hillary wins the nominations, you would

not be unhappy if she lost the general election, based on your comments.

Assuming you are a Sander's supporter, that is ironic because if Bernie doesn't win the nomination, there is no doubt in my mind that he would support the Democratic nominee, be it Hillary or O'Malley

[leftofcool]

28. You don't know jack poo about Kentucky!

Conway was a shit candidate and Dems didn't vote. Has nothing to do with the DNC.

[Cosmic Kitten]

32. So the DNC couldn't run a better candidate?

What do you think the DNC does?

If Kentucky democrats had one
*shit candidate* (your words)
The DNC has no responsibility
to make an effort?

They just sit on their hands
and say, oh well?

IS ther any question why democrats
are getting whooped by the GOP?

Defending the DNC establishment
is defending the indefensible

[MineralMan]

58. State Party organizations choose candidates for Governor.

The DNC doesn't do that job. It's up to states to handle state politics. Kentucky is a tough state for Democrats. They needed a better candidate, and the DNC can't supply one to them.

[KamaAina]

109. Remember Alison?

She ended up running in some downballot race. SoS I think.

[frylock]

77. Wow. The Dems ran a shit candidate that didn't inspire voters to turn out?

That almost never happens.

[standingtall]

119. Oh it has something to do with the DNC

As well as Kentucky state democrats that basically let Conway get the nomination basically unopposed. The DNC and Kentucky democrats should've done more to recruit a respectable candidate to run for the Governorship.

[Thinkingabout]

29. So you want republicans to win, great, see how much they listen to the needs of Americans.

With the possibility of Kentuckians losing the health insurance as they know today, I guess this is a great plus. I find it hard to cheer for the socialists who disparage the DNC.

[Cosmic Kitten]

34. HAY, nice straw man you got there

You know who's not listening to
the needs of the Public...
The Democratic National Committee!

You know what the job of the DNC's is?
Getting democrats ELECTED.

Guess who's NOT doing their job.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz

[Thinkingabout]

48. Is one of their jobs to disparage Democrats?

[ish of the hammer]

90. who's disparaging democrats?

what are you talking about?

[still_one]

38. Bevin was a Trump like character, and unfortunately, Kentucky has been attracted to such persona.

Rand Paul is a perfect example.

It should not be ignored that Kentucky has been a red state for some time, and in 2008 when Dean was the DNC, Obama failed to take the state, and that was with relatively good voter turnout.

If the expanded Medicaid program is undone, it will cost the state, not only in the health and well-being of its populace, but also it will adversely affect it financially.

Kasich in Ohio is no liberal, and he recognized the benefit of the expanded Medicaid program

[Thinkingabout]

51. I can assume the fact the state has been red is something easily overlooked

When one is wanting to blame DWS, same game as blaming Obama for everything.

[still_one]

57. What they are looking at is that the Kentucky has been under a Democratic governor for quite a while

and they are automatically interpreting that as a failure of the DNC. Kentucky's state legislature is still Democratically controlled, it is on their national level that they are bright red.

This was a different election, and very negative, so it was really never a sure thing. Also, there are a lot of mixed signals that happen in Kentucky politics. Bevin, a Trump like character has appeal for many there, just like Rand Paul did.

On the other hand, the Democrats won all three open seats on Pennsylvania's Supreme Court, which is an historic event. So is it the DNC's fault that the Democrats won the open seats on Pennsylvania's Supreme Court?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141250854

[Thinkingabout]

60. The DNC is working hard, has in the past and will in the future. I do not see any reason for other

Party people to come in here on DU and try to run our party, take their hate back to their own party. It is not true Democrats who are trashing the DNC.

[LettuceSea]

64. Lol, that'll expand the tent

If you want to close the tent and alienate more voters like DWS for the sake of 'party loyalty', by all means go ahead.

I'm sure it'll work well...

[Thinkingabout]

98. I am a Democrat, I dont have a need to continiously disparage Democrats. I don't attempt to

Prevent anyone from voting, this is their choice, I care about the future of the US and want the candidates who knows how to get the job done.

[ish of the hammer]

94. again, what are you talking about?

[ish of the hammer]

84. who mentioned socialists?

besides you

[Truprogressive85]

35. Putting effort in state elections has to be a priority

This defeatist attitude that some here have is sickening

oh its red state so it doesn't matter ?
oh Obama lost the state in general so it doesn't matter ?

If the Dem. party (both state and national) cant get people to vote what the point having party in that state than ?

we have 17 Democrat Governors ? if that doesn't wake DNC up nothing ever will

[Cosmic Kitten]

37. I suspect the DNC is awake

Fool me once shame on you
fool me twice shame on me.

The DNC is only concerned
with getting Hillary elected.

The DNC has been sacrificing
elections since 2008 as shown above.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027314833#post6

[1939]

43. In fairness to the DNC

Each state has their own Democratic State Committee. They are the ones who are involved in recruiting and selecting the state wide candidates. Should the DNC dictate to the state parties who their candidates should be? In state elections, the only thing the DNC could do is send money and free advice.

[LiberalArkie]

73. Results: I am number 5

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[Cosmic Kitten]

79. Thanks for the heads up

[FlatBaroque]

116. LOLLLL

"At some point you have to send this poster somewhere else. "

Where are they gong to send you???

[Cosmic Kitten]

118. azkaban?

[Cosmic Kitten]

36. AMAZING how Defenders of the Establishment are swarming

[Truprogressive85]

41. truly is

and than I see people blaming the voters
not the lousy candidate or the weak leadership of the DNC

[demwing]

75. It's never their responsibility

it's always ours. They rarely help, and sometimes they interfere.

So what the fuck do we need them for?

[WillyT]

39. K & R !!!

[octoberlib]

44. Historically, the Democratic party has had horrible messaging.

Conservatives the world over use emotion and fear in their messaging while liberals think logic and reason should be enough to get people out to vote.


Instead of wasting money on ads accusing Bevin of not paying his taxes, wouldn't it have been smarter to run ads on what it'll be like with no access to affordable healthcare? We can use fear , too. We have plenty of ammunition.

[beerandjesus]

89. Ironically, the DNC types do nothing but fearmonger when addressing the left

Which is why every election cycle, we in the "fucking retard" wing of the party are bludgeoned with the same old "You want coat hanger abortions?? You want six more Scalias??"

And then they wonder why we're just not excited about Hillary!

[LadyHawkAZ]

46. Ah, the post-election morning coffee and finger pointing...

Perhaps everyone stayed home and Voted Their Conscience™ rather than vote a Lesser Evil™, and preferred to wait for a Real Progressive™ rather than a TurdWay™, etc etc pick a don't-GOTV-catchphrase.

I hope we've all enjoyed this 2016 preview. We now resume our regularly scheduled programming.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

130. Perhaps they did.

I hope the Party starts paying attention, and it won't take too many more such losses until they start offering better candidates, so that people won't keep staying home.

[LadyHawkAZ]

134. ...because that tactic has worked so well the past 15 years...

People who think that way need to grow the hell up.

[oldandhappy]

47. I watched this last year in a local House election.

No one outside the local Dem clubs cared to help. So, we have organized! We are taking on Issa this next time and we are not counting on anyone to help. We are preparing and have already had one fund-raiser. And we have a good candidate which helps.

[geek tragedy]

55. You know there's a Kentucky Democratic Party, right? nt

[MineralMan]

61. Yup. Here's its website:

http://kydemocrat.com/

Maybe people should be directing their disappointment to the leaders of that organization. That would be my call, if I lived in Kentucky, which I do not, thank fate.

[Cosmic Kitten]

88. There IS a KDP? Hmmmm, who knew

I don't know if you read through
this thread but back up an post #6
there is an excerpt and link to the
DNC Victory Task Force Report.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027314833#post6

In that report DWS bullet pointed her plan:

• Having a clear, values-based narrative that unites us as Democrats and engages and appeals to the broadest swath possible of the American electorate.

• Creating strong accountable partnerships with active Democrats and all those who share our values in all 57 states and territories and Democrats Abroad.

• Proactively protecting and expanding every American’s right to vote.

• Building a three-election strategy for redistricting – at the state and federal level.

• Identifying and promoting the next generation of Democratic leaders, including citizen activists from a cross-section of backgrounds and walks of life.

You might notice the bolded and
highlighted words.

Is not defending the ACA part of
a values-based narrative?
Seems someone dropped the ball.
Not pointing fingers but <DNC>

And that part about a "three-election strategy"
for redistricting at the STATE and federal level?

As I'm sure you are aware Kentucky's
congressional and state legislative lines
are both drawn by the state legislature,
as a regular statute, subject to gubernatorial veto.

So even if the republicans hold the state seats
the GOVERNOR can veto redistricting!
Losing the Governorship is a GOP *checkmate*.

Again, someone dropped the ball and screwed
the democratic party while simultaneously
making a mockery of their very own *Victory Plan*.

Defending the indefensible is pitiful.

[cindyperry2010]

67. I live in this horrible state

I have an adult son with epilepsy who must take medicine twice a day for his illness. This asshole Bevin has promised to get and get rid of healthcare in this state. I currently am on disability from work due to breast cancer. WTF are people like me supposed to do? Can somebody answer that one for me

[Fumesucker]

120. I have no answer for you...

But I'm sorry to hear of your plight and hope things turn out well for you and your son.

[cindyperry2010]

121. ty

[ananda]

68. So basically the Kentucky people were willing ...

... to give up healthcare and their overall welfare
in order to make a statement against gay rights.

Sheesh

[WI_DEM]

70. The Democratic vote seems to suffer whenever there isn't a presidential election

in many areas. PA was an exception last night and in 2014.

[Cosmic Dancer]

74. We better come to the reality that we are getting our asses kicked

The repugs have the House, the Senate and a large majority of the states. We better change our tactics if we want to win.

[sumus]

76. So vote

400,000 are now at risk of losing healthcare. How many neglected to vote?

[Jack Rabbit]

82. But, but, but . . .

Doncha know? Only a colorless, white bread centrist who stabs the People in the back at every opportunity can win an election. That's why Nixon beat McGovern and Reagan smacked Mondale from coast to coast. And Carter? He was a moderate when he won in 1976 but moved to the left and lost in 1980.

Power to the Artificial Persons. Resistance is futile.

[Cosmic Dancer]

96. Carter lost cause of Iran hostages

[Politicub]

85. This rests in the hands of the people of Kentucky

It was a bad outcome, but there's a reason why the saying all politics is local exists.

Obama said We are the ones we've been waiting for. However imperfect you believe Obama to be, there is truth in that.

Without a strong leader as the standard bearer in Kentucky, there is no amount of money or resources the DNC or anyone else could supply to swing an election one way or the other.

[Cosmic Dancer]

102. I disagree, we need to stop running away from democrat accomplishments and start

embracing them.

[joeybee12]

86. I'd rec except for the Hilary bashing...

Did Conway ask her to help and she didn't show? Did he ask Obama? No...probably thought that their participation would hurt not help...that's debatable...but it amazes me that far too many people think everything that happens is Hilary's fault.

[Cosmic Kitten]

93. If Bernie had a nickle for every faux *bash* Hillary post

[joeybee12]

105. Did you read what you wrote?

Maybe Hillary could have given us a preview
of her enormous *coattails* and helped her
party win a Governorship by throwing her weight
into Conway's campaign? Nah, she's too busy for that

[Cosmic Kitten]

106. Is this a trick question?

[Proud Liberal Dem]

126. If and when she gets elected

She, like Obama, will be disparaged for everything bad that happens or every good thing that fails to happen for Dems

[Amimnoch]

87. Couldn't Bernie have just waved his magic wand?

You blame Hillary for not doing anything, you'd have blamed her if she did do something, But with all the magic that Bernie can do to wave his magic wand, shouldn't he have have fixed the turnout??



You know, it's a shame.. This being General discussion forum, and this being a real issue that should have been discussed like an adult, and you go straight to primary insults.

Okay, I'll follow your lead mate.

[Cosmic Kitten]

103. Ironic isn't it, Hillary has *coattails*, Bernie is unelectable

And it's the fault of the working poor
and misinformed voters that the DNC
failed to provide leadership. pfft

I WAS going to discuss this seriously
with you but, irony

[BainsBane]

129. How many times have you yourself claimed Hillary is unelectable?

That argument is posted here everyday, and the only basis for it is that the poster making the claim doesn't like Hillary and assumes that his or her views are universal, while the views of the majority of Democrats are entirely inconsequential.

The working poor in fact support Clinton. Sanders supporters average incomes of over $80k a year. I believe the poor along with women and people of color (also demographics that favor Clinton) have been told they are suffering from Stockholm syndrome for failing to fail in line with the demands of their betters.

[Pedalman]

91. CODE RED: Computerized Election Theft and The New American Century

The results in this race made me pull out my copy of Jonathan Simon's 178 page book again today. Didn't I read early this morning that the GOP win was a "shock" and a "surprise"?

[madville]

100. Hillary wouldn't have helped

She'll lose Kentucky by 15-20%. Romney won it in 2012 +23%.

[Cosmic Kitten]

104. Can put the Hillary has *coattails* talking point to rest?

If she only has coattails in blue states,
she doesn't really have coattails.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

131. I don't think she would.

(Not that I'm a HRC fan, but) Romney won it by 23% against Obama. It wasn't just that he was a Democrat that resulted in Obama losing the state by so much. And Hillary doesn't have that particular disadvantage counting against her with Kentucky voters.

[madville]

132. Grimes lost to McConnell by 16%

I would expect Hillary against most Republicans to be in that neighborhood.

[vkkv]

101. ... It's the South.

I'm still waiting for TX, MO, OK, KS, AZ and the ENTIRE South to secede so we can get going on that BORDER FENCE.

[Cosmic Kitten]

107. Will we get to keep their *socialist entitlement* money....

or will we be forced to pay alimony?
<sarcasm thingy>

[vkkv]

108. And they can keep their Flag.

Without the hated Fed Gov't, they'll be out of business in NO time.

[Zorra]

111. Oligarchs are in control the DNC, and they are not friends of the 99%. nt

[Cosmic Kitten]

112. That's the *establishment* I know

[Truprogressive85]

114. a Black woman making history as LT Governor

Remember for Democrats is about waiting your turn not who is the better candidate that will get the people out ot vote.
08' proved the better candidate was what the people wanted

[Babel_17]

115. Guess it's not their kind of state

Time is money, and spending time there has to generate cash. The funding from Wall Street flows whether the establishment has the majority, or the minority.

[Rex]

127. They have to spend all their time staying in office. Costs a lot of money and time.

The rest of us, just trying to make it day to day. They told Howard Dean to go away. How is that working out for us? The elitist in the party would rather us all die then let progressives run the party.

They are pathetic.

[BainsBane]

128. The DNC doesn't do GOTV

candidates and state parties do.

[Horus T Light]

133. Mr. Brightside

Yes it was bad in Ky. Just one look at Bevin and you get the willies. To keep it in perspective, as mentioned on this site there are still questions as to the polls and if Bevin just cold up stole this one. In VA team blue failed to pick up one seat. But all is not lost, for there is Pennsylvania and it's Supreme Sweep and every major race held that day.
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