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authorities said a 6-year-old child was shot five times and killed, his father was critically injured, after a police pursuit and shooting Tuesday night. The child, Jeremy Mardis, was sitting in the front passenger seat of a vehicle when the situation unfolded.
Louisiana State Police reported it happened in Marksville, LA around 9:30 p.m.
Dr. L.J. Mayeux, coroner of Avoyelles Parish says the father of the victim, Chris Few, had warrants out for his arrest. Ward 2 City Marshal deputies spotted Few's vehicle on Washington Street. Instead of pulling over, Few led deputies on a chase through Marksville, finally turning down Martin Luther King Dr., which is a dead end street.
Mayeux says Few backed into the marshal's vehicle several times and would not come out. That is when a gun battle ensued between the marshals and Few.
Read more: http://www.fox10tv.com/story/30434913/autistic-6-year-old-shot-5-times-killed-during-police-pursuit#ixzz3qcjJCjN3
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)They knew where he lived, its not like they couldn't have grabbed him up later.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)Last edited Thu Nov 5, 2015, 07:17 PM - Edit history (1)
Warrants are public documents, but she claims they are not, and would not tell me what the warrants were for. No doubt, they are for petty crimes that did not need to see the cops put the entire community at risk to serve.
"No, warrants are not public information," she snapped. When I explained to the women that our tax money pays for public documents and that they are printed on public dockets, she claimed I was "yelling at her" and hung up. I was not yelling, but apparently disagreeing with a cop in Marksville is "yelling at them".
Special snowfliakes in Louisiana, I guess, cops who are waaaaaay above the law there, they can kill kids and treat the public like shit and then just go on about their day like nothing happened? I'd like that awful police supervisor I just spoke to to know that where I live, the cops would never do something so dangerous, and they'd be strung up by their heels if they killed a child over a warrant.
But that awful human doesn't care, you can tell.
Here is the number, but don't expect this unprofessional, arrogant woman to tell you what the warrants were for, either.
Marksville, LA police: (318) 253-9250
Edit to add: looks like I falsely accused the arrogant rag of a human in the Marksville Police Department of lying, but Louisiana has closed warrants. That woman and her whole department still SUCK, but I, unlike too many cops, DAs, judges and legislators, admit when I'm wrong.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)in the State of Louisiana.
http://www.louisianaarrests.org/
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)They are known for their own way of fucking up lives, so I'm not surprised. Most states' warrants are open records unless a case is sealed.
Thanks for checking on that for me.
Louisiana legislators have designed their own little private living hell, I suppose. Fuck them all.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)That is just so wrong. So wrong.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)a warrant this way.
Undoubtedly the dude didn't pay a fine or some stupid shit like that, and babies must die to ensure Louisiana court clerks get those vital payments. Vital services must continue.
The local yokel asshole DA must be able to afford to take his mistress to the mall to buy new lingerie and shit. Priorities, man.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)tblue37
(65,340 posts)pnwmom
(108,977 posts)GOLGO 13
(1,681 posts)Father's are responsible for their children. He failed. Therefore he is a bad dad.
it hurts to think someone thinks like that
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Was he thinking "They shoot at me, better keep shooting?"
Or was he thinking "They shoot at me and my child, better get my child out of this?"
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)I find that you seems to lack the ability to understand reality.
While I do not know the details of the shooting I believe that there was not much thinking going on during the tragedy. I do not look at the shooting devoid of the whole of the situation and make a judgement that the sum of the event is father failure.
Simple thinking - simple reactions - simple mind
dynamic events have a history - some might say that america failed all the people involved.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Normal parents keep their kids out of car-chases.
Normal parents keep their kids out of gun-fights.
Normal parents have the instinct to protect their kids.
What did this guy's instincts say?
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)I see them almost every day - their lives are often more difficult than one can understand
The father and child look happy in the photo - that in itself says more than your quick silly judgement.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)the verdict is in
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)So, what am I supposed to do?
Bash the cops and forget that it was the father who started the car-chase with his kid in the car?
Bash the cops and forget that it was the father who intentionally rammed other cars with his kid in the car?
Did the cops know there was a kid in the car?
Would you intenionally ram another car when you are driving with your kid?
You are mixing up two questions here:
1. Why did the police shoot?
2. Why was that kid in the car in the first place?
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)no hate - just sadness for your lack of understanding
Human101948
(3,457 posts)You are wasting your talents.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)arguing?
most of my post are supportive of peoples views - i will agree that some views here get under my skin
be well
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Let's recap our conversation, shall we?
Me: "What was the father thinking when the situation went violent?"
You: An ad hominem-attack + "You don't understand reality anyways" + "There was no time to think."
Me: "Well, parents normally have an instinct to protect their kids."
You: "Cut this guy some slack. And btw there is this one photo of people smiling."
Me: "You judge the situation based on one out-of-context photo?"
You: "You are a bad person."
Me: Ridicule + "Am I supposed to ignore the wider circumstances of the incident?"
You: "You just don't get it."
So, what am I supposed to get? You are not even making a point!
My point is that the father is partially to blame because HE brought his kid in a situation that HE subsequently turned violent. And your counter-argument is "happy photo".
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)recap
bad dad
simple view of the world
garbage
simple view of the world
garbage
simple view of the world
.....
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Which one of us the one spouting garbage and which one of us is the one with a dumbed-down view of the world?
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)as if it is beyond their mental capability to imagine any cop anywhere has ever lied.
Dumbed-down people believe that the simple serving of a warrant should not be done with restraint, common sense, or a view toward public safety and conservation of public resources. No, dumbed-down people think it's kinda KEWL that adults in fancy uniforms hop in their cars and serve warrants like it's a goddamned Mad Max Fury Road movie.
Gotta turn that "serving a warrant" into a goddamned motherfucking free-for-all, guns blazing, speeding through neighborhoods to have a good old time as a cop in Marksville, Louisiana, and good for them! Right? You deep thinker, you.
Dumbed-down people accept that this a valid, acceptable way to serve process on human beings, putting innocent people at risk just to get some cop kicks.
Dumbed-down people can't admit that shooting a baby 5 times while serving a goddamned warrant is fucking overkill.
Dumbed-down people make me curse like a goddamned who-knows-what because they piss me off with their mediocre little minds that swallow bloody camels yet strain at gnats.
Wow!
Most excellent.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)I never wrote that I agree with any sort of statement on this incident.
Just because I don't grab pitchfork and torches and don't join the screaming mob, that doesn't mean I condone of what has riled up the mob.
Wait... Is it this?
Are you pissed at me for NOT joining the lynch-mob? He who is not on the side of the revolution is an enemy of the revolution? With best regards from Robespierre?
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)And I read everything you wrote.
Looks like the cops lied; looks like you defended baby killers, huh?
And of course, this ain't my first rodeo. The bad-cop apologists always run away scared when they realize their fantasy coppers are actually just fallible humans prone to the same rage and violence as anyone. They always scurry away like roaches and never condemn these cops.
They just hide in the shadows fantasizing about burly, manly cops and waiting for the next evil one they can stand up and defend.
Happens every time. Maybe if bad-cop apologists could take off the rose-colored glasses and actually condemn these rogue motherfuckers, it might mean something. But instead, bad-cop apologists ALWAYS show support for the bad acting cops and slink away when they realize no one is buying their blatant BULLSHIT.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)I was so careful to not post anything supportive about the cops and yet you saw through my scheme. I was writing one thing, but you cleverly deduced that I REALLY was writing about something totally different.
Surely, our Legion of Police-Apologists (http://www.lopa.org/) is no match for your mind-reading powers.
But this isn't the last time you have heard of us! We will hack into DU and retroactively falsify threads and comments to make it look as if we posted OPs condemning police-brutality about once a week! And nobody will know! MUHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)How much fun you're having.
laugh away
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)Your sense of humour leaves something to be desired, however.
And if you're not pissed off about this case, something is seriously wrong with you.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)You are pissed off at me for not being pissed off more about the manslaughter and somehow you are pissed off at me for bringing up that taking your child on a car-chase is a bad parenting-idea.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I don't get the personal fighting over this. It is really easy and NOT the fathers fault. Not in this case. Two cops were going to kill this guy and his kid, the other 2 cops wouldn't pay ball after the murder.
You don't have to be mad, just understand the facts. Or would YOU depend on those other two cops to save your life?
I doubt it.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)That's why they were after him. And I presume that he knew that there's an arrest-warrant with his name on it.
And in the process of "fleeing for his life" he still found the time to ram their cars.
I get it. What the cops did was outrageous.
But why do people keep making excuses for this guy?
"He loved his son. This out-of-context-photo proves it. How dare you question his parenting-decisions for taking his child on a car-chase? And the kid was autistic, which totally tells us whether he was a good parent or not."
"When the cops came for him with an arrest-warrant, he fled, but he wasn't fleeing from the warrant, he was fleeing for his life."
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)And the latest news as of today is one of the cops had a grudge over a woman with Few and the shooting may have been intentional murder.
Rex
(65,616 posts)nt
Rex
(65,616 posts)Did you not know there was no proof of any warrant?
kcr
(15,315 posts)It's okay if you don't want to follow up on a story, but don't pretend you know more about it and wonder why others don't share your uninformed opinion.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)I never said that I know more than other people about this case and I refuse to waste my spare time by following up on a random story.
Hitting me for lack of information is appropriate here. However, I don't get why it's okay to operate on a lack of information as long as it satisfies one's prejudice of permanent police-brutality. See the posts of this other guy above, where he claimed that having an autistic kid means that you are automatically above criticism or that a single photo tells us what the family-situation was like.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Mea culpa for believing what the OP said.
Mea culpa for not following up on this oh-so-important story.
Mea culpa for not jumping to the conclusion that anything involving police and shooting is automatically a sign of malevolence.
Mea culpa for not filling DU with screeching hatred and attention-demanding outrage just because yet another child was killed by yet another cop.
Can you list how many innocent people have been killed by cops this year?
How many children?
How many innocent people died in US-drone-strikes?
How many people died because Republicans made healthcare too expensive?
How many Yazidi women were raped?
How many under-age girls ISIS has auctioned off to men who know nothing but loneliness and violence?
How many years this female iranian cartoonist has to spend in jail on top of her original sentence because shaking hands with her lawyer was an inappropriate sexual contact?
How many women die each year in Saudi-Arabia because male paramedics aren't allowed to touch them?
How many people have mysteriously died in police-custody in Thailand after being arrested for insulting the king?
How many years of jail-time spreading something other than the government-version of events can get you in China?
How many Ukrainians are dying each day in a war where each side is fighting to save the "real" Ukraine from the traitors?
Have you been sufficiently outraged and mad over every single case?
Are you sure?
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)...father he could be and DID NOT put his child in danger. You may have a valid point, but you blamed the father for putting the child in danger and now it's turning out that that was not actually the case. You and GOLGO 13 were wrong and you should admit it.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Pray tell, have you ever issued a mea culpa and official retraction on DU when it turned out (long after the story had gained attention on DU and the discussion already had died down and everybody moved on) that you were totally wrong?
Are you doing follow-ups on every story you comment on? Are you skimming your old posts, checking whether they are still accurate after all this time? Do you officially retract your position and apologize for your mistake when it turns out you have been wrong all this time?
I could admit in writing that I was wrong... I could... But I see no reason to do that.
I don't see why you, me or anybody else would hold me to a higher ethical standard than the rest of the DU-community.
brush
(53,773 posts)The guy was cornered on a deadend street.
Where the hell was he going?
Just call for more back up and wait his ass out.
No need for a fucking barrage of gunfire.
Too many trigger happy cops who resort to shooting as first resort instead of the absolute last thing to do and this is what you get.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,013 posts)tkmorris
(11,138 posts)Sorry to shout but you seem to be having some trouble hearing this simple point. the father was wrong. Very. Unforgivably. THAT IS STIPULATED.
This has ZERO to do with the actions of the Police here. The job of public servants is to PROTECT children when necessary from the actions of those who would do them harm, or put them in harms way.
In this particular case they failed spectacularly to do that. Instead they said, to wit, "Your father defied us kid and that isn't acceptable. Sorry but that means you have to die". It's extremely offensive that you find that to be an acceptable approach.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)I remember that story - Dr. Seuss
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)The father brought his kid into a situation that he escalated to the point of violence.
When the situation escalated to the point of violence, the police accidently shot the kid.
I think both acts are unacceptable.
tkmorris
(11,138 posts)Furthermore you MIGHT want to read up on current events. It seems this didn't play out the way you envisioned.
I accept your apology.
Mr Dixon
(1,185 posts)your on point
ileus
(15,396 posts)Folks who run from LEOs aren't generally the thinking types.
lame54
(35,287 posts)but if you read further it is hard to tell if he even had a gun
2naSalit
(86,577 posts)Just because the dad is unable to talk, the cops are going to make sure their version of the event sticks as long as possible. Wonder if there was a dashcam, whether it was on and if so, where's the vid?
Seems like the cops often escalate a simple task to make it a wildwest shootout for their particular brand of entertainment.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)orange spray paint marks the orientation of Fews car and three patrol cars, at the intersection of Taensas Street and Martin Luther King Drive. The particular placement of the cars and a spray of glass from the passengers side of Fews car seems to indicate Few was not backing toward the officers. His car was perpendicular to them, and the officers shots hit the drivers side broadside.
Avoyolles Parish coroner LJ Mayeux said Mardis was killed by multiple gunshot wounds to the head and torso. He died at the scene. His father, Few, is in serious condition at Rapides Hospital in Alexandria, Louisiana.
Fews fiancee, Megan Dixon, said the entire tragedy started with a romantic dispute. Earlier on Tuesday night, she said, she and Few had bickered at TJs pool hall, and she had left with a friend named Sally. Few also left, and picked up his son at a relatives house.
A short while later, Few pulled up next to Dixon at a stop light Marksville is a small town and tried to get her to come home with him. I wouldnt do it, she said. Im stubborn.
Moments later, she said, as the cars pulled away from the light, she saw two marshals cars marked in black and white approaching from behind with their lights flashing. She looked into Fews car as he pulled away, and he was pointing at his sons head, indicating that he was in the car and he wasnt sure what to do.
Few was afraid of the marshals, she said, because he and and one of the marshals on the scene had a prior personal conflict.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)2 Cops arrested for shooting unarmed dad and killing his kid
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017306630
hatrack
(59,584 posts)Bye now.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Whatever floats your boat.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)but it isn't, is it?
hueymahl
(2,495 posts)That "GOLGO" stands for "Go Leo Go"
Rex
(65,616 posts)But still his fault right?
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)herding cats
(19,564 posts)<>
Greenhouse and Stafford are two of four officers who were present during the shooting. While initial reports claimed that the officers were attempting to arrest Few on an outstanding warrant, Edmonson said that was not the case and it remains unclear why the chase began.
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We took some of the body cam footage, Edmonson said. Im not gonna talk about it, but Im gonna tell you this. It is the most disturbing thing Ive seen and I will leave it at that.
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Justice has been done tonight, Edmonson said. But the investigation is far from over.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/11/07/2-louisiana-police-officers-face-murder-charges-in-the-fatal-shooting-of-a-6-year-old-boy/
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)whoever shot and killed the child is going to lose their job and be in some legal trouble. I doubt the community is going to put up with police killing a 6 year old child with no consequences. Most people view the purpose of the police is to protect the innocent, especially children.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)not a chance
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)"my life was in danger" is an accurate way of describing the incident from the cops point of view.
Unless there's information not included in this story, or the story is inaccurate, the cops acted within their responsibility to protect themselves by returning fire at the suspect.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)A man fleeing Marksville city marshals was shot in the head and his 6-year-old son was killed after the marshals opened fire on their vehicle Tuesday night, according to Louisiana State Police.
The exact reason the Ward 2 marshals were in pursuit of Chris Few is unclear. Different sources have said he allegedly was fleeing from the marshals after an altercation at TJ's Lounge on Spring Bayou Road, and also that he fled after a traffic stop. Another source said he fled after marshals tried to serve a warrant on him.
Few was shot in the head and was transported to Alexandria's Rapides Regional Medical Center for treatment.
His son, Jeremy David Mardis, died at the scene after being hit multiple times in the head and chest, according to Avoyelles Parish Coroner Dr. L.J. Mayeux.
http://www.wwltv.com/story/news/crime/2015/11/05/boy-shot-dead-in-marksville-marshal-pursuit/75206150/
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)riddled body and head as they imagined their own child suffering the same fate at the hands of those who serve and protect. I hope it haunts them for the rest of their days.
hueymahl
(2,495 posts)If they did, it was out of fear of their job, not remorse or disgust.
3catwoman3
(23,975 posts)...Ben Carson does.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)then the cops should be fired and brought up on charges.
IMO, if someone shoots at the cops, then they deserve what they get. Excluding a exchange of gunfire, or some other exceptionally violent incident, the cops shouldn't have the right to shoot people.
NOLALady
(4,003 posts)I heard nothing on local news about the Father shooting at the cops. There was nothing about a weapon at the scene other than the cops weapons. At one point, they suggested that the child may have been killed by a drive by or even the Father.
In fact, when it was first reported, there was no mention of the victim putting the car in reverse.
The official
Yesterday, I told my husband that a mysterious weapon would turn up. It seems that I was right. SIGH!
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)NOLALady
(4,003 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)officials were unsure whether the marshal had jurisdiction to operate within the city limits ...
Marksville mayor asked about marshal's authority
Melissa Gregory
3:55 p.m. CST November 6, 2015
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)PatrickforO
(14,571 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Police seem to enjoy the thrill of "serving warrants" these days.
Crash down the door and Invade the house, slam all the terrified people to the ground and search everything (there could be cash to grab!) or maybe they try to run away!
ileus
(15,396 posts)We even have some folks here that feel this type of "police work" is acceptable giving the right reasons.
As a voting population we need to send a clear message this tactics aren't acceptable...
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)and the charges usually involved in ordering a warrant but, of course, like most things when it comes to law enforcement in the US, there is very little data.
But, yeah, there is no excuse whatsoever for this child to have died nor the many others who have died, been injured and traumatized in various ways as a result of overzealous policing, including serving of warrants.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)missing a full day waiting in court for their name to be called to pay their 'jay walking' ticket. Our Local neighborhood courts are abusing the use of warrants.
If the courts know where the person lives, tack the damn warrant to their front door should be enough.
NOLALady
(4,003 posts)"Upon being reached for comment regarding the existence of warrants for Mr. Few, the Clerk of Court for the City of Marksville stated they had nothing and that they had never had any warrants out on him, according to KATC TV."
Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-falsely-accused-man-warrant-gun-killed-6-yr-old-son/#JZrwBYMjGiU7yMJG.99
The Green Manalishi
(1,054 posts)OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)only the marshals.
http://avoyellestoday.com/news/photos-marksville-shooting-victim-and-injured-suspect-released
Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)TWO glaring errors in the 1st paragraph, several more throughout the article!
I know... I shouldn't be nit-picking at such a tragic time, but damn!
Peace,
Ghost
Initech
(100,068 posts)This is the final straw.
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)The LEOs must think they are in another time and place.
Rex
(65,616 posts)What the hell was the guy thinking ramming cop cars and shooting at them? That just doesn't make any sense to me.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)Read more: http://www.fox10tv.com/story/30434913/autistic-6-year-old-shot-5-times-killed-during-police-pursuit#ixzz3qdF7JtMM
This is where dashcam or bodycam footage would be VERY valuable. It *is* possible that the cops just opened fire on him after he rammed them, not knowing, or being able to see, that a child was in the passenger seat. Once they discovered it, one of them *could* have planted a weapon on the father. He's in critical condition, so let's hope that he survives so we can hear his version... or hope that there IS dashcam footage to back up their claim. I know this is on the edge of territory, but if there were no dashcams, and a "drop gun" was used, I would think that the cops would have made SURE that the father was dead, too.
Still trying to process this all...
Ghost
lame54
(35,287 posts)if you read further it is hard to tell if he even had a gun
Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)I'm guessing that you only responded to my headline and didn't read the post?
I have been guilty of that before myself...
Peace,
Ghost
lame54
(35,287 posts)and it was as contradictory and confusing as the article itself
Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)probably rambling a little, but this just has me shaken up right now.
Dashcam, or bodycam, footage would be very valuable because:
A - It's not hard to imagine the cops jumping out and shooting at a driver who just rammed them several times while trying to flee. I can see where they could have genuinely feared for their lives.
B - When they finally stopped the driver and approached the vehicle, they saw the boy, dead from their bullets, in the front passenger seat. They all freak out, and conspire to plant a gun on the suspect and say that he started the shootout.
C - If the cops didn't have dash/bodycams and knew it, why didn't they make sure that the driver was dead so he could not refute their story later.
Summary: Dash/bodycam footage would either 1- Back up the officers stories or, 2- show them as complete liars and conspirators in a tragic, senseless killing of an innocent 6 year old boy.
If he did indeed ram them several times, the damage to their vehicles would show that. Where I live, that is known as "Aggravated Assault & Battery with a Motor Vehicle" or "Attempted Vehicular Homicide" if they were outside the vehicle... then you add "On A LEO" to the end of those and the charges go up exponentially, by also adding "Felony" in front of those charges. It also gives the officers the excuse of "I feared for my life, and the lives of my fellow officers, and fired on a fleeing felon", justifying their use of deadly force.
I hope that cleared it up for you...
Peace,
Ghost
closeupready
(29,503 posts)local news says he was unarmed.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)During the 2 p.m. news conference, Louisiana State Police Col. Mike Edmonson said no gun was found in the vehicle involved in the shooting that resulted in the death of a 6-year-old boy. The shooting happened Tuesday, Nov. 3, 2015 around 9:30 p.m.
The victim of the shooting was identified as Jeremy Mardis. Officials say Jeremy was shot five times during the shootout.
Dr. L.J. Mayeux, coroner of Avoyelles Parish, said the father of the victim, Chris Few, had warrants out for his arrest. Ward 2 City Marshal deputies reportedly spotted Few's vehicle on Washington Street. Instead of pulling over, Few led deputies on a chase through Marksville, finally turning down Martin Luther King Drive, which is a dead end street.
The alleged warrants for Few's arrest have not been located by the police or WAFB 9News at this time.
http://www.fox10tv.com/story/30447357/lsp-gun-not-found-in-vehicle-after-officer-involved-shooting-that-killed-6-year-old
Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Avoyolles Parish coroner LJ Mayeux said Mardis was killed by multiple gunshot wounds to the head and torso. He died at the scene. His father, Few, is in serious condition at Rapides Hospital in Alexandria, Louisiana.
Fews fiancee, Megan Dixon, said the entire tragedy started with a romantic dispute. Earlier on Tuesday night, she said, she and Few had bickered at TJs pool hall, and she had left with a friend named Sally. Few also left, and picked up his son at a relatives house.
A short while later, Few pulled up next to Dixon at a stop light Marksville is a small town and tried to get her to come home with him. I wouldnt do it, she said. Im stubborn.
Moments later, she said, as the cars pulled away from the light, she saw two marshals cars marked in black and white approaching from behind with their lights flashing. She looked into Fews car as he pulled away, and he was pointing at his sons head, indicating that he was in the car and he wasnt sure what to do.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/05/louisiana-police-deny-car-reversing-six-year-old-shot
Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)but all they have to go on is what the officers involved reported, and what the Department's Spokesperson was able to tell the Press.
Peace,
Ghost
Rex
(65,616 posts)That did seem strange.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Even a cornered animal will fight back sometimes.
NOLALady
(4,003 posts)that he was fighting at all. Fight or Flight kicked in. He was running for his life, well aware of the police killings all over the country.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)Because it led to so much collateral damage to non-involved civilians. But now chasing cars is back in vogue among the police. What happened? Did chases become safer? No, police have become more aggressive and belligerent.
It's not like the guy was going to disappear. And even if he ran for the border, so what? He never shot at police. He can't be all that dangerous.
Poor child had very little and they took the one thing he had been given - his life.
jen63
(813 posts)There shouldn't even have been a chase in the first place unless some one's life was in imminent danger. That doesn't seem to be the case here. They knew where he lived. The country is sick with violence.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)?verdad?
Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)My heart goes out to his family and friends. The article mentioned a grandmother, who wasn't "ready for an interview right now", but didn't mention the mother.
For those who won't click the link because it's Fox, the State Police are investigating:
Tpr. Scott Moreau with LSP said the preliminary investigation showed Marksville City Marshals from Ward 2 fired at the car at the end of the pursuit. He added that Few is in critical condition.
"I know it was more than one officer involved," said Louisiana State Police Master Trooper Scott Moreau. "There were multiple officers, but whether it was two, three or four, I don't have that information yet."
It is still unclear who specifically killed the child. Dr. Mayeux says Jeremy was shot at least five times, with two specific shots killing him.
Read more: http://www.fox10tv.com/story/30434913/autistic-6-year-old-shot-5-times-killed-during-police-pursuit#ixzz3qdBwW5p8
Sadly shaking my head...
Ghost
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)the cops risked lives?
Was the dad a terrorist with a bomb? What was sooooooo important that a dangerous car chase was required?
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)is just like what we read about the Soviet Union in the 80s. Cops pulling people over and doing whatever they wanted with them. Totally corrupt. Maybe it's still that way. I think our "wall" is going to be torn down soon. Or maybe it has been. Maybe that's what the WTC was, our "wall."
Iggo
(47,552 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)Iggo
(47,552 posts)Iggo
(47,552 posts)They're the best!
secondwind
(16,903 posts)shoulders above the window....
total mishandling of a situation.. yet again..
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Did dad have a gun?
Did dad really ram the cop cars?
Was dad fucked up on something?
Could cops see kid or even know he was in vehicle?
Thread shall now continue with lots of speculation until more facts and video footage are released-
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ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)Right?? Lol...
Some people are arguing upthread when we only have very little information to go on. DU is funny and always entertaining!
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)and the 4 year old shot in Albuquerque, can we say there is any difference, in terms of victims through police or criminal shootings?
librechik
(30,674 posts)jeez, I'm kidding! This is HORRIBLE, like so much in law enforcement lately
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)An innocent party was killed as a result of dads illegal actions. Even if he didn't pull
The trigger his criminal actions resulted in the death of his child.
A responsible father doesn't lead cops on a car chase and ran cop cars with a child in the car.
Dad will be charged with the murder, as he should be. He knew his actions were endangering his child.
Before anyone argues, look up what the felony murder rule is. This is a textbook case.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)What have you got to say about it?
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Greenhouse and Stafford are two of four officers who were present during the shooting. While initial reports claimed that the officers were attempting to arrest Few on an outstanding warrant, Edmonson said that was not the case and it remains unclear why the chase began.
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We took some of the body cam footage, Edmonson said. Im not gonna talk about it, but Im gonna tell you this. It is the most disturbing thing Ive seen and I will leave it at that.
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Justice has been done tonight, Edmonson said. But the investigation is far from over.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/11/07/2-louisiana-police-officers-face-murder-charges-in-the-fatal-shooting-of-a-6-year-old-boy/
While not all police are bad, some are. Generally, the ones who are are very bad, and they taint the entire system with their actions. In this case, at least, they were held accountable. But, ask yourselves this, why did they think they could get away with this in the first place? Think long and hard about it.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)Things definitely have changed since then- from all I see there is no defense and I hope the state prosecutor gives them an aggressive and competent prosecution and they never see the outside of a prison again.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)Mayeux said Few's son, 6-year-old Jeremy Mardis, died from multiple gunshot wounds to the head and chest. The boy, he said, was "caught in the line of fire" and killed. Few was listed in serious condition Wednesday, hospital officials said.
http://6abc.com/news/boy-6-dies-after-marshals-open-fire-during-chase/1069747/
He also said the shots all came from outside the vehicle and through the drivers side door.
http://theadvocate.com/news/acadiana/13886147-123/child-shot-multiple-times-in
deathrind
(1,786 posts)Justification for the police to shoot at this vehicle. Unless the father was firing at them but none of the reports I have read say the father was armed. So...
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)When you ram your car into others it's a deadly weapon.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)There is no reason to serve a warrant like you're in Grand Theft Auto. THE COPS made the decision to escalate warrant-serving into a deadly game with no regard for innocent bystanders.
The cops are supposed to be smarter than the criminals. They are supposed to use the least force necessary. There was no need to serve the warrant in this fashion, but I bet the cops had a blast chasing a suspect around with no fucking regard for anything but their own fun.
I hope that baby's image never leaves their minds, and they all go mad and stop being cops. Marksville, Louisiana needs some officers who have some regard for human life, not the goddamned baby-killing cretins serving that community today.
deathrind
(1,786 posts)"Few led deputies on a chase through Marksville, finally turning down Martin Luther King Dr., which is a dead end street. Mayeux says Few backed into the marshal's vehicle several times and would not come out. That is when a gun battle ensued between the marshals and Few."
The man backing into the marshals vehicle does not constitute an immediate threat to life. Perhaps the marshal if he/she feared for their life so much that they deemed it necessary to start firing into a vehicle without knowing what was inside the vehicle should not have parked themselves behind the truck, if they really felt that threatened.
All of the LEO's involved here need to be at the very least terminated from their positions because they clearly lack sufficient judgement to be in such a position. You do not fire into a vehicle if you do not know what is inside...if they did know a child was inside and fired anyway they should be charged with the murder of a 6 year old boy.
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)The cop is going to use deadly force, and the use of deadly force will almost always be ruled justified. The ultimate fault lies with the father for (1) running from the cops with his child in the car and (2) then attempting to ram the cops or their car when cornered. Had the father simply accepted service of the warrant his child would still be alive and the father would not be in the hospital. Based on the facts as I currently understand them none of the cops are at fault. If it turns out the cops knew there was a child in the car and still fired on the vehicle then I agree they should be fired, but I haven't seen anything that supports that conclusion.
deathrind
(1,786 posts)Fault is the fathers but I disagree that the cops were justified in shooting into the vehicle. You do not fire into a vehicle with out knowing who or what is in it.
The warrants were standing according to what I read. The police had an address for this person. There was no need to escalate the situation like they did then and there.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)entitles cops to turn the local streets into a fucking war zone?
That somebody who failed to make a probation meeting or pay a traffic ticket or return a library book should be chased around town in a high speed manner that puts the entire community at risk?
You believe the job of being a cop entitles cops to treat all humans like their personal playthings? Because that high speed chase over a measly warrant could have killed many people, and put many, many more lives at risk than just that little boy's. In a case last week, Michigan cops (I believe) were chasing a seatbelt violation and ran through a red light and killed somebody.
This is how cops are allowed to behave in your book? Like life is a goddamned motherfucking free-for-all, and public safety be damned?
How is it cost-effective or in the interest of public safety to allow cops to go off half cocked like a bunch of lunatics? How do they get a special pass in your mind, so much so that you claim they 'did nothing wrong, move along?'
Are cops above the law, above common sense? Do you believe they should escalate situations that are NOT life and death situations INTO life and death situations because they are special goddamned snowflakes?
The cops and marshalls are COMPLETELY to blame for using a goddamn sledge hammer to put a tack in the wall.
That people think cops should have free rein to treat our roads and neighborhoods like their own private high-speed fun zone makes me want to PUKE.
I just hope you aren't a cop anywhere near me. The cops in my area don't serve warrants this way. They don't have to, because they have something called COMMON SENSE and also a REGARD FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)What do you think of the incident now?
NOLALady
(4,003 posts)That gun battle was probably the police shooting at each other.
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)Also yes, Louisiana operates under a different law. My mentor was an Atty born and raised in New Orleans of an influential family.
Something about Napoleonic law.
This all is ten kinds of wrong!
NOLALady
(4,003 posts)Cops Who Killed 6-yo Boy Lied About his Dad Having a Warrant & Gun He Had Neither
Read
more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-falsely-accused-man-warrant-gun-killed-6-yr-old-son/#JZrwBYMjGiU7yMJG.99
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-falsely-accused-man-warrant-gun-killed-6-yr-old-son/
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)NOLALady
(4,003 posts)"At a press conference, Edmonson initially described the shooting as an exchange of gunfire, but later clarified that only the officers had shot, and that investigators had found no gun in Fews car. Officials had previously declined to confirm whether officer gunfire was responsible for Mardiss death."
NOLALady
(4,003 posts)to the police car ramming?
It seems the victims car disappeared for awhile. Shortly after it happened an official said he had no idea where the car was.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)He also said the bullets came through the passenger side door that struck and killed the little boy, which goes along with that the father was trying to turn around not ram the police.
Of course this is just the first of the information to come out, there will be more as the investigation evolves.
Orrex
(63,207 posts)I am not excusing the father nor justifying how the cops handled the sitution, but did the cops know that the boy was in the vehicle at the time of the shootout?
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)but the dad is an idiot.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)even if the dad shot first. They still could talk to him with a bullhorn and talk him down from his over the top thinking he was going to shoot his way out of being arrested. It's not likely the guy was capable of being rational at the moment. He needed a bit of time at least. Now they have destroyed a family over some petty crime.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Medals for them all. Promotions and raises, too!! They keep us safe!
Rex
(65,616 posts)Strange how a shoot out can only be one way.
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)If the warrant is for something serious, they might have a reason to engage in a dangerous chase an deadly gun battle. In so many cases the warrant is for failure to appear on a traffic ticket, or non-support, or some other petty offense. We need to train the police better, so they don't end up shooting people for jaywalking, which is often the outcome in such circumstances.
rockfordfile
(8,702 posts)Terrible judgement. This just shows you they hire anybody off the streets.
Lancero
(3,003 posts)Can't remember the specific law, but their is one that lets a person be charged with murder in the event of their accomplices being killed by the police.
They'd have to stretch things a bit, but given that the father tried ramming the cops car, and supposedly started shooting at them, they could hit him with felony attempted murder for it, which would give them grounds to use this law to charge him for the murder - Despite the police being the ones pulling the trigger - of his child.
It'd be stretching things, but modern cops are hardly known for their honesty.
NOLALady
(4,003 posts)It seems there was never a warrant, no gun, no evidence that he backed into their cars prior to the execution.
"Officers initially claimed that Chris had backed up into a police cruiser several times when the chase ended on Martin Luther King Drive, but officials agree there is no evidence that this took place prior to officers opening fire. "
Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-falsely-accused-man-warrant-gun-killed-6-yr-old-son/#JZrwBYMjGiU7yMJG.99
NOLALady
(4,003 posts)because of a previous personal encounter he had with one of the officers. This is why he ran.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/05/louisiana-police-deny-car-reversing-six-year-old-shot
Rex
(65,616 posts)Or that of his sons life.
NOLALady
(4,003 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Norris Greenhouse Jr. and Derrick Stafford, 32, were arrested by the Louisiana State Police. Both were booked on charges of second-degree murder and attempted second-degree murder.
"We took some of the body cam footage. I'm not gonna talk about it, but I'm gonna tell you this. It is the most disturbing thing I've seen and I will leave it at that," said Col. Mike Edmonson at a news conference State Police held Friday night.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)FUCK a bunch of you who jumped to condemn the father who just lost his baby.
FUCK ALL ON THIS THREAD WHO DID SO. Just kiss my goddamned ass with your acceptance of this.
Thank goodness the good cops of LA are a lot smarter than you you evil babykiller-loving morons.
Again, on behalf of little Jeremy David Mardis, FUCK YOU.
And thank you to the cops in LA who are seeing that this angel gets the justice his senseless death deserves
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)herding cats
(19,564 posts)I'm so angry, and I don't get angry normally. I'm calm and retrospective, not so damn angry I want to scream and break things.
I just saw the updated report on the Washington Post and I want to slap some people here, and elsewhere, upside their blind heads with it. I'm just so sick of watching people knee-jerk defend these actions I can't deal with it anymore.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Norris Greenhouse Jr. and Derrick Stafford, 32, were arrested by the Louisiana State Police. Both were booked on charges of second-degree murder and attempted second-degree murder.
"We took some of the body cam footage. I'm not gonna talk about it, but I'm gonna tell you this. It is the most disturbing thing I've seen and I will leave it at that," said Col. Mike Edmonson at a news conference State Police held Friday night.
Edmonson did not go into specific details, saying that nothing was more important than "the integrity of the case."
"Let's make tonight about Jeremy Mardis," said Edmonson. "That little boy was buckled in the front seat of that vehicle, and that is how he died."
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)As new information becomes available, it seems this particular thread becomes not only relevant again, but illustrative.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)Bad cops getting even for a bad drug deal???? The didn't know the kid was in the front seat.
Rex
(65,616 posts)but the boy too? Why are they not up for 1st degree murder? Mr. Police Union man...care to say any words about this MURDER?
Nope. Might mean some self-reflection. They were just marshalls part time anyway...excuse, excuse.
HickFromTheTick
(56 posts)Knowing that he would likely get away with it scot free by lying about it. This is standard police procedure in this age of dumbed-down kneeling before the lawman.
This weasel stalked the woman until warned away by the victim. So he got his accomplice police weasel buddy to back him up on his little agenda of authority roleplay, murder, and lies.. Police work attracts these psychos . They live out their control fantasies protected by the thin lying stinking shit-stained blue line. Fry them like any child killers.
raging moderate
(4,302 posts)It's like the alternate universe shown in "It's a Wonderful Life" with James Stewart. God help us; the Potters of the world have won. They have won the world and they have broken it. What will they do with it next.?