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Avalux

(35,015 posts)
1. I have this image of a group of coaches and handlers.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 01:36 AM
Nov 2015

They've been paid a lot of money to groom Carson into an acceptable Republican presidential candidate of color. He's smart, obviously, he's a brain surgeon. And he's mild-mannered and soft-spoken (most of the time).

But they miscalculated - they knew he had a tendency to get a little worked up, yet thought it was nothing to worry about.

They were wrong. Something broke inside Ben Carson, and he suddenly became a slow-motion train wreck. They could do nothing but watch in horror as their progeny went completely off the rails.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
4. He also says he's a Seventh Day Adventist
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 01:52 AM
Nov 2015

If he was in ROTC and considering West Point, he would be a shitty SDA. Adventists are supposed to be against using all weapons, going to war, or serving in the military.

Their end-of-days bullshit drags out the kooks, granted, but mostly they're a bunch of pacifist vegetarians who founded scores of teaching & nursing colleges.

Ben Carson doesn't even know what his own fucking religion believes in.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
8. It's complicated in practice
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 02:08 AM
Nov 2015

Although that was an excellent article.

It is my understanding that accepting military Adventists was more of a political decision than a theological one, and that the core of the church is still very much about nonviolence.

I'm an atheist, but my spouse and in-laws are fairly observant SDAs, so while my opinion has been generated first hand, it's also admittedly anecdotal. However, it has been my experience that many/most of these decisions are made with an eye towards membership and not on actual belief. For instance, the SDA officially claims that they endorse no candidates, including Ben Carson, but most of the people making that decision are publically on the record as saying BC is (essentially) a total asshole who doesn't represent their beliefs.

Most of them are horrified and embarrassed.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
12. Thanks for your info, Nevernose. I've never had a problem with Adventists....
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 04:46 AM
Nov 2015

Mostly know about their vegetarianism, teaching hospitals, and healthy lifestyle.

As with every other religion I leave the fine points to their adherents right up until they seek public office, at which point it becomes public business unless they can separate their Church from Our State.

Interesting that (anecdotally) other Adventists are not at all pleased by Dr. Carson. I'm increasingly finding him to be a nutbag myself.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
5. He's very popular. Very popular indeed, within the Republican party.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 01:54 AM
Nov 2015

And that party takes up fully half, sometimes more, of US voter turnout.

Jeez, I pity you US Americans! For your political system.
It's like, everything is reduced to two, and those two duke it out with fists in the coliseum while everyone throws tomatoes and even live squid.
You've got these no-holds-barred primaries that occur only right before elections. I mean, right before. To the fucking minute. So there's no time to blink before you get to vote for your monarch.

It doesn't make sense to me, so the kind of year-long campaigning that goes with it doesn't make a lick of sense to me.

I mean, dirty politics? Tell me about it, DU.
The whole process seems to be designed to eliminate any actual political ownership, by the people.








struggle4progress

(118,290 posts)
7. Meh. Very crudely speaking, the electoral is split evenly Dem, Indy, Repub
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 02:07 AM
Nov 2015

Today Carson can't have even 25% of the Repub vote, which would translate to less than 8% of the electorate

The Repubs are in trouble as a major party though, which isn't good for a country dependent on a two party system

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
13. This campaign needs to go on a few months longer
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 05:10 AM
Nov 2015

Shithouse rats have been the baseline for insanity for far too long. "Crazier than Ben Carson" has a nice ring to it.

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