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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:42 AM Nov 2015

FOX "News" Host Fails Math: 'Only 271,000 NEW Jobs, But We Were EXPECTING More Than 180,000'

FOX HOST FAILS MATH: ‘ONLY 271,000 NEW JOBS, BUT WE WERE EXPECTING MORE THAN 180,000’


But it is Doocy’s co-host, Elisabeth Hasselbeck, who really throws the announcement into full spin cycle. This is a textbook example of how you turn one thing into something else with your choice of words and your vocal inflection. Hasselbeck says,

STEVE DOOCY (CO-HOST): You know the music, we are back with a Fox Business Alert right now. The October jobless report for hourly workers, just released 90 seconds ago. The unemployment rate is, as you can see right there, 5 percent. I believe that could be, actually, a little lower than in August and in September as well.

That’s right, Steve. Only 271,000 new jobs were added last month. That is up from September as well. Analysts were expecting more than 180,000 jobs for October.


“Only 271,000 jobs were added?” When they were expecting almost 100,000 fewer than that?

For Fox News, Elisabeth Hasselbeck, and any other Obama-haters out there, here is a comparison between President Obama and President Bush on jobs, using information taken directly from the Bureau Of Labor Statistics:



On this spreadsheet, months with net job losses are in red. Months with job gains equal to or greater than the 271,000 figure that Hasselbeck tried to spin as “bad” are in green. Because a president doesn’t take office until January 20, January 2001 mainly belongs to Bill Clinton, and January 2009 belongs to George W. Bush. But if we leave those two months out of the mix, we see the following:

There have been 16 months with job losses under President Obama so far, all of them in his first two years in office.

There were 26 months up to the same point in George W. Bush’s term where the economy saw a net loss of jobs.

Only during nine months out of Bush’s first seven years did job gains meet or exceed those of October 2015.

The 271,000 jobs figure has been met or exceeded 11 times under President Obama.

Under President Obama, the economy has gained jobs every month since October 2010. It took almost a full year longer for job gains to become consistent under Bush.

From the first full month of their terms to this point in their presidencies, Bush added 5.4 million jobs, Obama, 8.6 million.


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http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/11/06/watch-fox-news-stumble-through-outstanding-octo/206671
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FOX "News" Host Fails Math: 'Only 271,000 NEW Jobs, But We Were EXPECTING More Than 180,000' (Original Post) kpete Nov 2015 OP
Yeah, they are like so many here, they say what they are expected to say according to the politics. kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #1
2011 to 2015, after the Bush hangover ended.....every year Obama has delivered...remarkable! Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #2
Wages are creeping up also, but no one is talking about that either. Too much good news would kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #3
So eager to diss Obama-she did not read the report right. ha hs riversedge Nov 2015 #4
Reading must not be fundamental Generic Brad Nov 2015 #5
Is our Fox parrots... 3catwoman3 Nov 2015 #6
Thread win. GeorgeGist Nov 2015 #10
the video ... napkinz Nov 2015 #7
Right-Wing Fuzzy Math Vogon_Glory Nov 2015 #8
this is not accidental. faux does this 24/7. it's called misinformation. spanone Nov 2015 #9
Nothing on Fox is an accident. Any accident is quickly erased or edited out. 100%!pure propaganda. Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #11
Back when my oldest son was about four, SheilaT Nov 2015 #12
kick napkinz Nov 2015 #13
There Fans Will Not Caught It erpowers Nov 2015 #14
We distort, you OBEY. tabasco Nov 2015 #15
 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
1. Yeah, they are like so many here, they say what they are expected to say according to the politics.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:47 AM
Nov 2015

There a number of folks posting here who feel the same way as FOX about the new numbers.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. 2011 to 2015, after the Bush hangover ended.....every year Obama has delivered...remarkable!
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:48 AM
Nov 2015

The corporate media always seems to have SO much trouble in the research and report department when it comes to anything other than Gloom and Doom.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
3. Wages are creeping up also, but no one is talking about that either. Too much good news would
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:56 AM
Nov 2015

harm the country.

I will say this: The manager of one of the stores in our mall said that pay for his employees went up 20% this year and they have their full complement of full-time staff. Now he is having trouble finding part-time staff for the coming holidays because the big chain stores in the mall are offering higher part-time pay than he is.

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
8. Right-Wing Fuzzy Math
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 11:14 AM
Nov 2015

Right-wing fuzzy math and an ingrained inability to see how the world really works--why I stopped being a Republican over two decades ago. And that was BEFORE the GOP went fully psychotic.

Neurotics build dream-castles, psychotics live in them, and News Corp produces shows on how to furnish and decorate their interiors.

spanone

(135,841 posts)
9. this is not accidental. faux does this 24/7. it's called misinformation.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 11:33 AM
Nov 2015

just the way 'doocy' says....'i believe that could be actually a little lower than august/september' and they call it the 'jobless number' they are insidious.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
11. Nothing on Fox is an accident. Any accident is quickly erased or edited out. 100%!pure propaganda.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 12:05 PM
Nov 2015

Roger Ailes really has nothing better to do but control every minute of broadcasting his personal views using well compensated human parrot proxies.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
12. Back when my oldest son was about four,
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 12:39 PM
Nov 2015

and learning numbers and the very basics of addition and subtraction, he loved to play a game of bigger or smaller. I'd say, which is larger? Five or seven. As he progressed in his understanding, I'd make the numbers larger. Even he would have gotten right the question , which is larger, two hundred and seventy one thousand, or one hundred and twenty eight? And that was when he was four.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
14. There Fans Will Not Caught It
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 07:41 PM
Nov 2015

There fans will not realize that the FOX News hosts are wrong, or lying. There fans are going to assume they either said 280,000, or meant to say 280,000.

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