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POSTED 6:29 PM, NOVEMBER 6, 2015
BY ALIX BRYAN
CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. Attorneys with the American Civil Liberties Union filed a brief urging Richmonds Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals to reverse the cancellation of the Washington Redskins trademarks ...
The district court said the ruling did not violate the Redskins First Amendment rights.
The ACLU agrees that the Washington teams name and trademarks are disparaging to Native Americans, and we have made clear that we believe that the team should change its name and discontinue use of its current trademarks, said ACLU of Virginia Executive Director Claire Guthrie Gastañaga. At the same time, however, we believe that government is prohibited by the First Amendment from denying a trademark on that basis.
The Charlottesville-based Rutherford Institute also distributed a press release ...
http://wtvr.com/2015/11/06/aclu-asks-federal-court-to-reverse-cancellation-of-redskins-trademarks/
geomon666
(7,512 posts)It's not a first amendment issue.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)They should change the name but it does seem to be against the first amendment for the government to cancel the trademark on the grounds it is offensive.
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)I'll go with the ACLU on this one.
merrily
(45,251 posts)if the trademark is offensive or not. It's probably been making that determination for a century or more.
Having a right to speak offensively may be different from a right to have the US government trademark and protect offensive speech.
That said, if the wealthy owner of the Redskins wants to fight this in court, fine. Not as though he can't afford it. I don't see using limited, donated funds for this purpose.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)"Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech..."
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)This is exactly the kind of the thing the ACLU should be involved in.
The ACLU simply filed a brief, they aren't fighting the case in court. I'm with the ACLU on this, and think it's exactly the kind of thing donated funds should be spent on.
merrily
(45,251 posts)it's fighting a case in court. And it does use scarce resources that could be used to benefit people who are billionaires and need representation.
But, you arecertainly entitled to disagree anyway.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)The name should be changed, but not because some man from the government has decided that it's offensive.
merrily
(45,251 posts)or their legal team.
Using donated money to fight for a racist logo of a rich franchise is very poor use of limited, donated funds, IMO.
And, yes, I do understand free speech.
onenote
(42,704 posts)also probably was viewed by many as a poor use of limited, donated funds. But the ACLU doesn't decide what speech to defend based on its popularity or who the speaker is and that's a good thing
merrily
(45,251 posts)Even a casual reading of my prior post would pick up all the money references. As my prior post said, yes, I do understand free speech. I am familiar with the Skokie case. As far as I know none of the Nazis who wanted to march had millions of dollars to fight the case without help from the ACLU.
Also as far as I know, there's no evidence that the Redskins' owner can't afford legal fees or that the owner's attorneys are incompetent. I'd rather see the ACLU use its limited and donated resources to fight for someone who could not afford to fight for his, her or its own rights. Sue me.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)is a drop in the bucket of both what the ACLU receives in donations and what it takes an actual plaintiff to file and argue the case in court.
onenote
(42,704 posts)After all, the New York Times and the Washington Post had the resources to higher top lawyers (such as Floyd Abrams).
merrily
(45,251 posts)shall we stick with the topic of this OP? I'm going with the latter.
X_Digger
(18,585 posts)1. Having Cake
2. Eating Cake
Pick one.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I did not object to applying any criteria to any case.
onenote
(42,704 posts)but don't understand the ACLU. When it participates in a case, it doesn't do so to represent parties. It represents the first amendment. Which makes the identity of the parties basically irrelevant.
merrily
(45,251 posts)onenote
(42,704 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)This case if lost could put a huge hole in the first Amendment and open the door to more regulation (Censorship) of speech.