14 years on DU and this last week is the first time I have no clue what is going on.

[trumad]

The crossfire is making me dizzy.

[countingbluecars]

1. So many important things

going on in the world and people are fighting over nonsense.

[trumad]

3. Seriously---I'll read an Op and say---WTF?

I'm having a hard time keeping up. GD-P---Hill.Com, Terminations, etc.....

[cwydro]

2. I actually don't believe you for a skinny minute.

You already made a nasty post about the hosts, and you have bombarded them with ugly PMs.

Why play all innocent now?

[trumad]

5. Oh that was the week before.

And that was because one of the hosts is a mad stalker of mine who locked a thread without consensus.

Not a very good group controlling things.

on edit: and what does that have to do with this current Op of mine?

[cwydro]

9. Because you've been all over the place since OS posted the first thread,

and I know that you do know exactly what it's all about.

It's funny how some simply love the drama, the trouble...

Well, there's plenty here now, so enjoy!

[trumad]

10. Oh I understand the OS Meta drama....

It's the other stuff that has me a bit dizzy.

BTW: You are not a host---so how do you know I've bombarded them with emails?

[cwydro]

12. I was a host during that time.

I know all about your emails.

I retired early from hosting because I'm, 1) busy with real life, and, 2) sick to death of all this meta crap.

[trumad]

28. Uh huh.

what ever you say.

[trumad]

29. Uh huh.

ThAnks for resigning.

[BootinUp]

44. lol nt.

[cwydro]

46. Well, you are certainly very welcome.

Just so you know, I was on your side during that nonsense.

Whoever your mole in the host forum is should be able to tell you that.

Except that I found your PMs to a new host inexcusable.

[leftofcool]

81. LOL

[joshcryer]

68. Why are hosts allowing meta?

[Capt. Obvious]

22. How else to get a meta thread going

Without getting locked?

[cwydro]

24. Yes indeed.

[pintobean]

39. Hey, what's new?

[bluedigger]

4. I feel like I'm in a card game and I don't know who the mark is.

[Whiskeytide]

7. You know what that means, right? ...

... the "mark" is not supposed to know who the mark is!

[lumberjack_jeff]

6. I disagree. n/t

[trumad]

8. Of course you will.....

Hey the Pope is Catholic.

[Gothmog]

11. You are not the only one who is confused

[kath]

13. well, you started a nasty thread mocking a beloved DUer who has a terminal illness.

really lovely. SUCH a class act!

[TSIAS]

16. I don't think that's fair

It seems that OP was posted before the information about OS's health was public information.

I don't like threads mocking other members, but I don't think it carried the nefarious intent that you might think.

[kath]

20. That information has been public for MONTHS.

Nice try.

[trumad]

30. I thought he was fine and recovered.

No matter... The thread should have been locked for meta...yeah but you know these hosts.

[JonLeibowitz]

36. Recovered from dementia?

[trumad]

61. Honestly I had no clue he had Dementia.

No clue.

[840high]

57. No you didn't think he recovered.

[trumad]

62. What you my mind reader ?

I do not follow OS around... No idea he had dementia.

[840high]

67. ....

ok - my mistake.

[ScreamingMeemie]

40. You do realize a good many of us have OPs we don't follow for one reason or another.

I have no idea what is wrong with OmahaSteve, outside of people alluding to it, and I am sure there are many, many DUers struggling through terminal illness, great family loss, financial misery who just haven't posted about it. We are active posters or we are not. I give everyone a level deal, whether they are ill or not. They choose to post here.

I don't mean for this to be a thrashing, but one of the reasons I left DU is because of an event which left a few DUers feeling like they couldn't debate/argue/talk smack with me. I have no real issues with Steve, and I do read his labor posts, many of which are invaluable. Every DUer should be treasured, but none should be given special dispensation. Thank you for considering this and realizing the spirit with which it's intended.

[Tipperary]

50. This is exactly what I think.

Who can keep up with what is going on with other people?

I would have to be a raging narcissist to think anyone remembered what I posted, even if I was one if the longtime members here.

[SoCalDem]

98. Same here..

My memory is not good enough to "keep score"..

I do not hold grudges , and many times I do not even look to see who posted what

Some people must have a lot of time on their hands

[trumad]

63. Honestly I had no idea as well..

I really haven't followed along with his travails .

I do wish him the best though.

[Agschmid]

65. I believe you on this one.

OS and I talk via PM sometimes and he's had a pretty rough go of it lately, dementia is a horrible disease and it does horrible things to you mind.

[trumad]

74. Fuck yeah---

I like OS---don't follow him much---then again I follow very few people.

My thread the other day "Can I be Targeted" wasn't mocking him---it was just poking fun at a 600 plus thread that was whacky as shit.

I certainly hope the best for OS.

[Renew Deal]

19. Are you the one that alerted on the "termination" thread?

With the same exact complaint? Can you tell the difference between mockery and support?

[cwydro]

26. Look, I'm not trumad's biggest fan,

but this "illness" excuse can only go so far. He had a right to mock that silly thread.

I don't care how long the illness has been posted on DU, not everybody reads those posts. Some people really think everyone here keeps up with them, and that is just not true.

Many on DU are dealing with their own illness, the illness of family members, the loss of friends and family members, but they choose to keep that information private. This particular poster is not the only one dealing with real life issues. I don't see it as an excuse.

If a poster is so ill that he/she cannot control his/her posts, then he/she should at least have some close friends to keep an eye on those posts. Or find another hobby.

DU can get rough, and if a poster takes it so seriously that it causes that poster real pain or angst, well, stop taking it so damn seriously.

[trumad]

31. Wow...

Ok I think differently of you now.

[cwydro]

41. Lmao, since I have no idea if I've just been insulted or complimented.

Nor do I know which I would prefer...

[Agschmid]

66. ... I think ...

It a compliment, but I never really understand what the hell is going on half the time.

[ScreamingMeemie]

42. I didn't see your post.

I agree, and it is disconcerting for me as well.

[Gman]

14. 2004 was worse

I said it was gang warfare. A canndidate's sign was like gang colors.

[salin]

15. funny thinking back to the derision-laden nics for supporters

the two that quickly come to mind: Deaniacs and Clarkbars. That said - the dynamics were ugly. Folks avoided each other for a long time after that primary war.

[TSIAS]

17. I'm still not over the Clarkpers

Which is an off-shoot of what they called us, "Deanpers".

[salin]

18. lol - exactly.

proud deaniac, here. I don't remember the 'pers' tags. But I do remember the rank vitriol.

[ScreamingMeemie]

43. My proudest moment was serving as a moderator in that time and having someone accuse me

of being biased against Dean because of a decision I made to lock a thread. After the primaries, I PM'd that person a picture of myself with Howard Dean at one of two events we attended.

People-powered-Howard

[salin]

49. kudos

Well done.

Those were some ugly fights and schisms.

Since then, during primary season - I travel light.

Good to see you. Peace.

salin

[Gman]

51. Good one.

[Hekate]

69. Which is why I've reverted to the flying pig for this go-round. Ugh. nt

[DFW]

72. In that case...

MAN am I glad I missed 2004!

[n2doc]

90. I don't remember it being worse

There wasn't the level of animosity, in my recollection. Now 2008, it did get pretty bad here between the Obama and Clinton camps. But it seems just as bad now.

[Gman]

93. I agree about the animosity

It was serious rivalry and at times got ugly. But not the naked animosity this year. We all came together in the end. Not sure that will happen this year.

I support Hillary but would be fine with Sanders. I think most Sanders supporters would reluctantly support Hillary, if anything being the much lesser of two evils.

I reluctantly supported Obama in 08. But I believe strongly in the power unity too.

[JanMichael]

21. I share your confusion. When I was really active on DU there were a few nutty situations.

But the recent threads must need decoder rings. Really covert and not what I see as amusing or worthwhile.

The cliquish cabal that went after Stephanie some 4 or 5 years ago is now mostly banned. Oh the irony.

[madinmaryland]

23. Dude! Tony Romo is back and will start against the Dolphins this weekend...

El Supremo is shitting his pants because there maybe no one from the Little 12 in the Championship Series...

joeybee12 still has everyone on ignore...

[mcar]

25. Here since 2002

And I couldn't agree more.

[elfin]

27. Same here

I have been here since very early 2002 and rarely OP, but sometimes comment.

Got kicked out of a primary group after what I thought was a fairly calmly stated opinion that didn't agree with the poster. Harsh. But I lived.

Now things have gone way beyond "harsh" in a year where we need to be and should be united as Dems, tho we may have heartfelt primary preferences.

Still check in a few times a day, but not the same, much more substantive site that I remember all those years ago, when it was my oasis on the net.

[trumad]

32. As you can see by this thread alone..

Shit be crazy.

[mstinamotorcity2]

38. Yep, I agree.

we had people here back then that were strong Dems. Now they have let folk go the wrong way. When we were in primaries we didn't agree on the candidates. But when it came to helping get the Dem nominee in we banned together and made it happen. Now what??

[Kalidurga]

33. And yet you wade in here without a helmet.

[dhill926]

34. from what I can tell...

Hillary is a corrupt Republican shill and Bernie is a closeted gun nut and racist....O'Malley seems immune for now, except for the fact that he supports police murdering minorities....

other than that....business as usual....

[AuntPatsy]

53. You just covered the DU 2016 Primary wars

Bravo

[Warren DeMontague]

35. Dont sell yourself short, buddy!

Im sure there have been other times.

[opiate69]

55. Methinks you're on to something!

[Warren DeMontague]

56. Breakfast of Champions!

[opiate69]

58. Indeed!!

[lumberjack_jeff]

96. Chevy Chase said it best

[spiderpig]

37. Me too. What is with all this infighting?

I realize the Repukes march in lockstep while we've always encouraged healthy debate.

But the sheer nastiness I've been seeing lately makes me afraid to post.

[Lizzie Poppet]

45. GD battle: meta threads vs gun threads.

[BootinUp]

47. Seems the same to me for some strange reason. nt

[Oilwellian]

48. Poor Trumad

even after all these years...

[orpupilofnature57]

52. Listen to the logic of the attacks .

[Generic Brad]

54. Every 4 years

Like clockwork. The dramas swell up and explodes. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Primary season brings out the passion, that's for certain.

[Texasgal]

59. Uh huh.

And I'm princess fucking DIANA.

You have always followed the drama and you know EXACTLY what's going on. Puuulezze!

[trumad]

64. Not really.

I cruise through most threads but not all.

I had no idea about OS and his Dementia. No idea of the Hillary site... I do try and keep up but it seems to be getting harder by the day.

[ladjf]

60. I'm in the same boat as you. nt

[polly7]

70. Yeah whatever, Trumad ..... nt.

[trumad]

75. I have a cracker for you.

[polly7]

76. How original !

Did you think of that all by yourself?!?

[trumad]

77. I did---sitting here drinking coffee...

the moment of brilliance hit me. Sometimes it happens, sometimes not. IT HAPPENED!

[polly7]

78. Well good for you!

The beginning of a very fulfilling day, eh? ...... you're on quite a roll, keep going - use it or lose it, right?

[trumad]

79. Yep---

Puns, Metaphors---a couple of Memes, making fun of BS'ers....

Hopefully someone will "parrot" my brilliance.

[polly7]

82. Deleted my post which was a bit mean ....... have a great day. nt.

[trumad]

84. Polly---

Come on---you're the one starting the day all mad ---why? Who gives a shit what I think.

I'm just a knucklehead sitting in my Fruit of the looms, drinking coffee, and pushing my fingers in a keyboard.

You could have just edited the mean post---then I wouldn't have know you posted a mean post---so---is it mean to tell me that you posted a mean post about me.

I have a sad.

[polly7]

86. I'm not mad.

Sad, yes.

Catherina and dorkzilla have said goodbye.




Fruit of the Looms - TMI!

[trumad]

87. Jockey?

[polly7]

89. Get dressed. nt.

[trumad]

91. OK

[pintobean]

83. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027337855

[polly7]

85. I remember that other original thread, it was great to read.

LOL at your reply.

[trumad]

88. Did you resign from being a host?

Or get fired?

[pintobean]

92. Where do you stand?

Q. Who is eligible to serve as a forum Host?

A. You are eligible to serve as a Forum Host if you have a 100% chance of serving on a Jury. This means that you must:

Have posted more than 2,000 times
Have 200 or more days of membership
Have posted more than 20 times in the last 90 days
Have had zero hidden posts in the last 90 days
Be a Star Member

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=hosts&volunteer=1002

You may want to read that page. You seem to have gotten some bad advice in the past.

[trumad]

94. Didn't answer my question.

Fired?

[pintobean]

95. No

I didn't.

[Waiting For Everyman]

71. It's the same group that keeps trying to throw its weight around.

It's the same ever since DU3 started (before that I didn't notice).

Same bunch with the flame bait outrages every time, it just changes from misogyny to privilege to Hillary-is-great. The "outfit change" doesn't really make any difference. It's always about controlling what other people say and do and think. That's what they think politics is.

Some people won't go along with that. Wonder why. The flamers try to get all those people kicked off, as much as possible. Of course it mostly isn't posssible, and so they stay outraged, mostly over nothing. It's like a hive-mind tantrum. It would be interesting if it wasn't so stupid and pointless.

It's obvious by now this won't change, I just use "Trash Thread" a lot and move on.

[DFW]

73. It doesn't exactly make me dizzy....

But I find myself ducking a lot!

[randome]

97. It's the fucking Hunger Games here!

It's meta about meta! It's diet coke mixed with bean soup! Ah-ha-ha, where's God when you really need Him/Her/It!

IT'S ALL CAPS WHEN YOU LEAST EXPECT IT!