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MineralMan

(146,325 posts)
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:14 PM Nov 2015

I love DU and DUers, and I'm sticking around

for the long haul. I don't agree with everyone, and have been called names by some, but I'm going nowhere. I'll continue to log in daily and posting when I have something I want to say.

See you all in the forums...

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I love DU and DUers, and I'm sticking around (Original Post) MineralMan Nov 2015 OP
"I want to stay, stay, stay ..." napkinz Nov 2015 #1
Thank goodness! You rock! HuckleB Nov 2015 #2
Is that some kind of mineral joke? MineralMan Nov 2015 #17
. HuckleB Nov 2015 #19
Rock of ages TexasProgresive Nov 2015 #22
Isn't that the,Rolling Stones? MineralMan Nov 2015 #23
You're a rock.....How much older could you get? Quackers Nov 2015 #24
I'm here too, and I intend to stay. cwydro Nov 2015 #3
I can only think of one response: guillaumeb Nov 2015 #4
I was about to post that. Tipperary Nov 2015 #25
Hi, Felicia. bigwillq Nov 2015 #5
Aww... MineralMan Nov 2015 #7
Oh my! JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #20
You need to do something to get locked out of your own vanity thread, Mineral Man. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2015 #6
Aren't you locked out of that thread, too? pintobean Nov 2015 #11
Yeah, but I'm not quitting DU. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2015 #33
You need to post more links to tweets! JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #21
Your post in that other thread was like sunlight on roaches Number23 Nov 2015 #28
Been here 12 years, BootinUp Nov 2015 #8
There's NOTHING I can SAY to you BUT Rose Siding Nov 2015 #9
I'm glad to read this.. mountain grammy Nov 2015 #10
You're too kind by half. MineralMan Nov 2015 #15
I stick around as well, though I post rarely OldHippieChick Nov 2015 #12
You point something important out DFW Nov 2015 #38
It's impossible to agree with everyone here. Martin Eden Nov 2015 #13
I love DU tooMM mcar Nov 2015 #14
Things will calm down considerably, once a nominee selection MineralMan Nov 2015 #34
I'm staying ellie Nov 2015 #16
People come and go and MineralMan Nov 2015 #18
Yup! I agree. longship Nov 2015 #26
Many people put so much significance on a particular candidate MineralMan Nov 2015 #36
We should all see the bowl, the spoon and the milk. longship Nov 2015 #40
All of that is why I keep saying that I will gladly vote for MineralMan Nov 2015 #41
Yup! We are screwed in the state houses and the US House of Representatives. longship Nov 2015 #42
Wishing you no alert stalks. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #27
I am told by others that my posts are frequently the subject of MineralMan Nov 2015 #37
<3 U !!! NurseJackie Nov 2015 #29
I love DU, and I love DUers. I've said GBCW before... and instantly regretted it. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #30
K & R SunSeeker Nov 2015 #31
Hell, I just got here, comparatively speaking... gregcrawford Nov 2015 #32
Hello cruel world! treestar Nov 2015 #35
Our lives are made a little richer because of some posters...thank you Sheepshank Nov 2015 #39
LOL! Are there fees to be in the Stockholm Syndrome Support Group? Number23 Nov 2015 #43
No fees, the rewards are payment enough Sheepshank Nov 2015 #45
Yeah ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #44
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
3. I'm here too, and I intend to stay.
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:21 PM
Nov 2015

This place is too freaking amusing to leave anyhow!

The last few days have been a real hoot.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,191 posts)
6. You need to do something to get locked out of your own vanity thread, Mineral Man.
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:23 PM
Nov 2015

Come on, get with the program.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,191 posts)
33. Yeah, but I'm not quitting DU.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:55 AM
Nov 2015

And if I did, I wouldn't make a big attention drawing scene about it and curse out other DUers in the process.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
28. Your post in that other thread was like sunlight on roaches
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 11:30 PM
Nov 2015

Good grief. I thought I had a pretty good grasp of that person's MO but even I was surprised.

BootinUp

(47,179 posts)
8. Been here 12 years,
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:27 PM
Nov 2015

I also have a sincere connection to DU and DU'ers. The primary season is rough, but its worth it.

mountain grammy

(26,644 posts)
10. I'm glad to read this..
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:31 PM
Nov 2015

I was censored last week for saying something dumb. It was my first hide, and it hurt, which surprised me. I thought the alert was lame, but then, I think most of them are.

In spite of it all, I'm sticking around too because I love DU, and you, Mineral Man, are one of the reasons.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
12. I stick around as well, though I post rarely
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:36 PM
Nov 2015

I'm disheartened about those who pit Dems against Dems,. but I stick around as I appreciate those like Mineral Man who try to keep us all sane.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
38. You point something important out
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:26 AM
Nov 2015

Disagreement is one thing. Deliberately pitting Dems against Dems is often another level.I get the impression that the first occurs among Democrats and the second is deliberatly done by many who are not.

Martin Eden

(12,875 posts)
13. It's impossible to agree with everyone here.
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 09:38 PM
Nov 2015

As a matter of fact, more often than not, I disagree with you!

MineralMan

(146,325 posts)
34. Things will calm down considerably, once a nominee selection
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:19 AM
Nov 2015

is clear. There will still be opposition posts, but not as many and not as blatantly negative.

longship

(40,416 posts)
26. Yup! I agree.
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 10:45 PM
Nov 2015

However, there are all too many who wish to destroy what DU is about to put forth a personal political agenda. This when the enemy agenda is not the Democratic presidential candidates, but an opposition party whose principles are against that which any of us would oppose.

Meanwhile we infight over which candidate is the most Democratic.

What a fucking useless enterprise here when so much is at stake.

What really gets me are all the useless personal attacks. Pathetic!

MineralMan

(146,325 posts)
36. Many people put so much significance on a particular candidate
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:22 AM
Nov 2015

that they feel like anything not absolutely positive said about their favorite is a personal affront. That's the reason for many of the personal attacks, I think. It's a mistake to invest 100% in any candidate. Each of us is just a single voter, and the mass of voters may decided differently than we thing they should.

As you say, the real enemy is the Republican Party. We should never forget that.

longship

(40,416 posts)
40. We should all see the bowl, the spoon and the milk.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:33 AM
Nov 2015

Because the GOP is cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.

My best to you, MM.

MineralMan

(146,325 posts)
41. All of that is why I keep saying that I will gladly vote for
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:37 AM
Nov 2015

and campaign for whoever is the Democratic nominee. I keep the primary goal in mind throughout the entire process.

Given the limitations of the office of President, any of the three current primary candidates would do almost the exact same things while in office. We should pay far more attention to legislative races. They are what really matters.

longship

(40,416 posts)
42. Yup! We are screwed in the state houses and the US House of Representatives.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:02 PM
Nov 2015

Both of which are subject to redistricting biases.

I fear that is what all the presidential primary ideologues do not understand. They apparently think that one turns a party around from the top, from the Oval Office. Well, I would think the Obama administration put that argument to bed. Apparently not.

If one wants a more liberal, progressive, socialist Democratic Party (you choose) it has to be done from the bottom up, not the top down. The latter never, ever works. That is what FDR understood that today's Dems do not. And by the way, both Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson understood it way back in the late 70's, maybe before. I watched it happen, as I imagine you did as well.

Meanwhile, DU focuses on presidential elections as if it were the only ball game.

Hint to DUers: If we lose the White House in 2016, the GOP will have everything. The state legislatures, the governorships, the US House, maybe the US Senate, too. And by the way, SCOTUS hangs by a thin thread which will break under a GOP Oval Office.

In other words, we lose everything. And heaven only knows where that takes us. Certainly no where good.

United we win; divided we fail.

And god damn it, support your local Democratic candidates, and help to get out the vote. It is all about getting out the vote. That is how Democrats win. And if one wants to change the Democratic Party, run for delegate! And get like minded people to do so as well. But don't expect to turn the SS Titanic on a dime. If one wants to change the direction of the party, it is not going to happen solely from the White House.

Love ya, MM.

MineralMan

(146,325 posts)
37. I am told by others that my posts are frequently the subject of
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:25 AM
Nov 2015

alerts. I only see jury results, though, in the rare instance that a post of mine is hidden, or when someone posts the results. I suppose there are far more alerts than I know about, though. I take any hidden post as a personal failure on my part, and always try to avoid posting anything that a jury might hide.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
32. Hell, I just got here, comparatively speaking...
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 12:15 AM
Nov 2015

... but I have come to have great respect and affection for many DUers, and for the site in general.

I do, however, have serious issues with those who bait others with malicious intent solely for the purpose of getting them hidden, suspended or banned, as I have seen here recently. I have ZERO respect, and even less affection for such people. That kind of malice has no place in this world, let alone among people who ostensibly share common purpose.

Agree to disagree on certain topics, and regarding one's chosen candidate; ain't nobody gonna change nobody's mind, so let it go. We have a common adversary, and their malevolence is growing exponentially. We cannot afford to waste our energy squabbling amongst ourselves; it is a weakness they have exploited more than once, and it is a hard lesson we should have learned by now.

Thus endeth tonight's rant.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
39. Our lives are made a little richer because of some posters...thank you
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 11:27 AM
Nov 2015

And then after reading one of the more recent fwcr screeds, I'm glad I've never crossed paths with them and frankly can't see that anything would have been added to my life.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
43. LOL! Are there fees to be in the Stockholm Syndrome Support Group?
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:34 PM
Nov 2015

Just the price of tea and cookies or is there a larger fee involved?

I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.

ismnotwasm

(41,999 posts)
44. Yeah
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:46 PM
Nov 2015

I have to admit I get frustrated, but I always check in don't I?

It's like football for me. I am NOT a football fan--anathema in Seattle these days--yet my Dad played a little semi-pro as well as for the army in his youth so I grew up knowing the game. Given the chance, I will explain why I don't like football in detail. Great detail.

Yet put me in front of a game on TV, l am mesmerized and involved and yelling at the refs--who can't, of course, actually hear me, just like everyone else who *is* a football fan. One of these days I'm gonna have to stop saying I don't like it.

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