Mon Nov 23, 2015, 12:33 AM
Help me out understand this, DU! Why are we still allies with Saudi Arabia??
Considering their horible laws and persecution of minorities and of most basic human rights, why are they our allies?
Oil? Is that all it takes for us to consider such a country an ally? Please correct me if I'm wrong, because I can't figure it out for the life of me. 
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 Help me out understand this, DU! Why are we still allies with Saudi Arabia?? (Original post) |
darkangel218 | Nov 2015 | OP |
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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 12:38 AM
smirkymonkey (61,367 posts)
1. We get less than 20% of our oil from them, it could be less.
Response to darkangel218 (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 12:39 AM
2. Yeah. I'd say it's the OIL. n/t
Response to 951-Riverside (Reply #3)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:02 AM
7. Well, Iran hangs gays..
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KSA, head chopped off, Iran, hanged, not much of a choice..
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Response to 951-Riverside (Reply #3)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:50 AM
Behind the Aegis (48,629 posts)
39. Transgender and homosexuality are not interchangeable.
Response to 951-Riverside (Reply #3)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:52 AM
40. I believe it is forced transgender surgery if you are gay
Response to Shankapotomus (Reply #40)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:31 AM
54. Looks like the HuffPost writer has a long history of putting out Pro-Iranian propaganda...
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Such as this: http://mic.com/articles/89913/the-media-claims-iranian-actress-leila-hatami-is-about-to-be-flogged-but-here-s-the-real-story where she repeatedly bashes "Western Media" for reporting on the fact that an Iranian actress was threatened with punishment for kissing a man on the cheek at the Cannes Film Festival.
She ended the article by saying this: Hatami has already paid her penance. She apologized, and thereby righted the tainted image of the regime. And that's what this entire scandal was about.
and this http://mic.com/articles/78597/why-every-american-should-take-their-next-vacation-in-iran and this http://mic.com/articles/74599/what-the-media-is-getting-wrong-about-the-iranian-rockers-murdered-in-brooklyn The Guardian's Paul Farrell, in an article titled, "The Yellow Dogs: the Dissident Rockers Who Made History in Tehran," described a band of rock n' roll deviants who made music against all odds. "They survived Iran," he wrote.
The media framed this story as the tragic loss of aspiring Iranian rockers who escaped oppression and persecution in an effort to pursue their dreams in a free society. But there were two serious flaws with this narrative. Firstly, the notion that Iran is a tyrannical regime, that the only way to live in Iran is to survive it, as Farrell suggests, is blatantly false. Though there are rules in place that deny artists full freedom of expression, there is also a strong network of support for artists in Iran — galleries and private spaces that back artists and musicians while circumnavigating the rules of the regime. And in fact, there are thousands of musicians in Iran, not just performing underground, but also in public, and the art scene is not only present, but thriving. The individual using the pen name or nom de plume of "Sasha von Oldershausen" is clearly putting out Iranian propaganda in various American publications such as PolicyMic, The Huffington Post, The New York Times and New York Magazine. Since 2012 shes rotated though so many well known publications spreading pro-regime propaganda. 
Mrs "Oldershausen" who is of Iranian descent, attended the University of Tehran a year before she began her mission of writing articles that put the tyrannical regime in a positive light. No where in any of her articles that I've seen will you find any mention of Iran's ill-treatment for religious minorities, gays, etc. I apologize for posting an article that was authored by what appears to be a mouth piece for the Iranian regime, I am clearly ignorant on the issue of how the LGBT community are treated in that region, I only posted out that article because it gave the appearance that Iran was the only nation that was mildly progressive. |
Response to darkangel218 (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:01 AM
6. We just made the largest wepons sale in history to Saudi Arabia.
Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #8)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:03 AM
10. AHA! Thank you.
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That would explain it.
$$$$$$$$$$ from weapon sales. 
I didn't know. |
Response to darkangel218 (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:53 AM
14. Because our elites are idiots
Response to darkangel218 (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:01 AM
15. A more important question is why are we fighting their war for them?
Response to darkangel218 (Reply #16)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:16 AM
merrily (45,251 posts)
47. "Follow the money." Best, briefest political advice ever given.
Response to darkangel218 (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:08 AM
17. having spent more than 20 years there - I will say this - As bad as the royal family is - and they
Response to darkangel218 (Reply #18)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:29 AM
19. most likely the matawa - the "religious police" would be the only cohesive group who could take
Response to darkangel218 (Reply #20)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:42 AM
21. allies is probably not the best word - machiavellian symbiotic relationship is more the situation
Response to Douglas Carpenter (Reply #21)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:43 AM
22. Well, thats just sick. IMHO.
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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Reply #17)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:44 AM
treestar (79,390 posts)
30. True, same with Saddam
Response to Douglas Carpenter (Reply #17)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:53 AM
43. having lived there myself i agree 100%
Response to darkangel218 (Reply #24)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:26 AM
A HERETIC I AM (22,319 posts)
27. Imagine what the Arabian peninsula would be like
Response to darkangel218 (Reply #28)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:43 AM
A HERETIC I AM (22,319 posts)
29. It's a hell of a lot more stable now than it would be with a power vacuum. n/t
Response to darkangel218 (Reply #28)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:44 AM
treestar (79,390 posts)
31. the 911 terrorists being from there
Response to treestar (Reply #31)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:59 AM
Bluenorthwest (45,319 posts)
50. Daesh has carved out a nation sized territory made up of parts of actual nations. Not stable.
Response to darkangel218 (Reply #28)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 09:02 AM
tazkcmo (6,977 posts)
56. Look at Syria.
Response to Donald Ian Rankin (Reply #23)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:08 AM
JustABozoOnThisBus (21,509 posts)
52. A force for stability?
Response to Donald Ian Rankin (Reply #58)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:04 PM
JustABozoOnThisBus (21,509 posts)
64. No, I think GHWB made the initial error
Response to darkangel218 (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:03 AM
25. Opposites attract. We're Yin, they're Yang.
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Response to trillion (Reply #33)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:52 AM
55. My cousin is an RN who worked in SA for awhile, years ago.
Response to darkangel218 (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:19 AM
42. Because of Wall Street and 911
Response to Locrian (Reply #44)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:30 AM
48. America has enough people, land and resources to thrive
Response to darkangel218 (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:09 AM
46. That question has gone mainstream in Belgium
Response to darkangel218 (Original post)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 12:39 PM
62. Because Saudi Arabia competes with Iran for political dominance in the Middle East
