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LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 08:50 PM Dec 2015

The Atlantic: Why the FBI Isn't Calling San Bernardino 'Terrorism'

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/fbi-definition-of-terrorism/418722/?google_editors_picks=true

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During a press conference in San Bernardino on Thursday, law-enforcement officials noted that the two dead suspects in Wednesday’s massacre had stockpiled an enormous arsenal: thousands of rounds of ammunition, 12 pipe bombs, and material to build more. They said that the couple, Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik, seemed to be preparing for more carnage in separate attacks. They noted “international travel,” and said that “if you look at the amount of obvious preplanning … there was obviously a mission here.” Anonymous officials told various news organizations that they believed the couple was in touch with suspected terrorists.

But when a reporter asked David Bowdich, who heads the Los Angeles field office of the FBI, whether the attack was terrorism, he was careful not to make a ruling.
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The Atlantic: Why the FBI Isn't Calling San Bernardino 'Terrorism' (Original Post) LiberalElite Dec 2015 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #1
Who is "they"? philosslayer Dec 2015 #2
Whitey! rufus dog Dec 2015 #4
Maybe because it's really workplace violence Abouttime Dec 2015 #3
Could be one or both. hifiguy Dec 2015 #6
Probably waiting to do some more investigations hifiguy Dec 2015 #5
True, I would expect them to wait. Rex Dec 2015 #9
It's extremely political and leaves law enforcement/NSA/ and those who coddle "moderate" terrorists. Jesus Malverde Dec 2015 #7
And why i leave the speculation to the experts here nadinbrzezinski Dec 2015 #8
I think probably a hybrid spinbaby Dec 2015 #10
Not a hybrid attack, the workplace just became the 'soft' target... JCMach1 Dec 2015 #11
There are plenty of soft targets..This was personal. Bonhomme Richard Dec 2015 #12

Response to LiberalElite (Original post)

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
4. Whitey!
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:07 PM
Dec 2015

1. President Obama this morning stated it could be terrorism
2. President Obama, the twice elected President is pushing for regulations supported by the vast majority of Americans
3. He was born here
4. Name me the last white guy mass shooter labeled as a terrorist.

Educate yourself.

 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
3. Maybe because it's really workplace violence
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 08:59 PM
Dec 2015

Sadly millions of Americans have multiple guns and stockpile ammunition, are they also terrorists?
These 2 planned the cold blooded murder of their colleagues, they killed them in cold blood at their holiday party. He and his partner killed his coworkers in this senseless act of workplace violence.
If they would have targeted the general population then it would fit the definition of terrorism.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
5. Probably waiting to do some more investigations
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:14 PM
Dec 2015

into just what was going on here before making a definitive statement.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
9. True, I would expect them to wait.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:29 PM
Dec 2015

We here can speculate all day long and it won't hurt anything, they speculate and it can.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
7. It's extremely political and leaves law enforcement/NSA/ and those who coddle "moderate" terrorists.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:17 PM
Dec 2015

Looking stupid.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
8. And why i leave the speculation to the experts here
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:19 PM
Dec 2015

and defer to the real experts and I will not call it terrorism until they well, do.

What many of our media types are doing IS SPECULATION, and it is irresponsible.

spinbaby

(15,090 posts)
10. I think probably a hybrid
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:36 PM
Dec 2015

They were inspired by Isis and found the workplace to be a convenient target. Or he was angry at his workplace, looked to Isis for ideas, and dragged his wife along for the ride.

JCMach1

(27,559 posts)
11. Not a hybrid attack, the workplace just became the 'soft' target...
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 10:23 PM
Dec 2015

Too much planning involved for this.

Bonhomme Richard

(9,000 posts)
12. There are plenty of soft targets..This was personal.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 11:00 PM
Dec 2015

For all I know he may have had to put up with stuff because of his religion..and he flipped out. Maybe he went to the party to give someone one more chance. Hell, Who knows? I don't know. Right now it is all speculation. I would think that if he did have a religious agenda it would have been a lot easier mentally to pull it off if he did it to strangers and not colleagues.

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