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Turn on your TV or computer, pick up a paper or magazine and you can see and hear them baying at the moon. Donald Trump is just the most outrageous and bigmouthed of the frothing wolf pack of deniers and truth benders. As our friend and colleague Tom Engelhardt of TomDispatch writes, Theres nothing, no matter how jingoistic or xenophobic, extreme or warlike that cant be expressed in public and with pride by a Republican presidential candidate.
http://billmoyers.com/2015/12/03/the-gop-on-the-eve-of-destruction/
thucythucy
(8,069 posts)I've heard too many predictions of the GOP's final demise though to be very sanguine about this.
lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)Lovin' me some Bill Moyers.
Met him once, got to thank him and shake his hand. Wow.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)KICK!
veness
(413 posts)SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)GOPers never ever ever ever accept any fact that does not agree with their own twisted logic.
They are just a cobbled-together batch of various loonies..
gun huggers
bible thumpers
fetus worshipers
anti-taxers
freeloading "libertarians"
misogynists
racists
bigots
xenophobes
At differing times they come together to thwart the majority of normal people when it comes to legislation, but for the most part, they are just dangerous loonies who should NEVER be in positions with any authority..
Our stupid media just "loves them some loonies", and puffs their importance up to a point in every election cycle so they appear to be viable candidates, and since dems often do not even run against them in smaller elections, they work their way up the ladder and end up as governors (redistricting/voting laws/educating the next generations) and /congresscritters (in numbers they throw monkey wrenches into anything that's necessary for a country to remain civilized
corkhead
(6,119 posts)I hope to see them pushed back under the rocks from which they came.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)Until rational Republicans remove this strain of extremism, our nation is in danger of sliding to fascism.
DJ13
(23,671 posts)Obama let them off easy, as he was too concerned with propping up the cons in his own party to let them wither and die.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Doc_Technical
(3,526 posts)One thing the Republicans excel in is dedication and tenacity.
They still control more than half the statehouses and at present
control the House and Senate.
If nothing is done about gerrymandering and the votes counted with
their machines, and spineless Democratic politicians who refuse to act,
they will always be in control.
mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)Donnie as candidate will put the stake through the heart of the GOP. That has to be worth something, right?
spanone
(135,844 posts)Livluvgrow
(377 posts)They have taken control of the senate, house, numerous governorships, several state houses, still got the supreme court, and gerrymandered the hell out of this country. You could all sit around and discuss their destruction but it hasn't happened. You think big money backing them is just going to fold and go home? This type of hogwash only enables them even further and possibly builds complacency into people.
longship
(40,416 posts)Those cannot be gerrymandered.
So, governorships, the US Senate, and the White House.
If we can carve into the GOP here, we will be doing some real good.
Starting at the top, the White House. If we lose that in 2016, that is too horrible to consider. As the GOP has everything else, if we have a GOP president in 2017, we're fucked, totally and utterly fucked. So let's presume we keep that -- if fucking idiots here will stop saying that cannot vote for X if they get the nomination!!
The US Senate looks easy. And presuming we retain the Oval Office that will likely be true. All the numbers stack up against the GOP. I suggest that we find a better majority leader than fucking Schumer. I suggest Dick Durbin.
The governorships look more difficult and here is where we have to work harder. But this can make a huge difference. Given the Gerrymandering in the state and national houses it is the only place where we can make big change. But if we want to make difference we need the governorships now, when we could have coat tails.
Any state legislature and US House seats we gain become gravy. We need to work on them, too.
Let's get 'er done!
Loudestlib
(980 posts)They have congress, and bunch of Governors, state legislators, and the last time a party held the White House for more than 8 years was when GHW was elected. If this is a party in decline I'm not seeing it. We hold the White House for now but historically it should swing back to the Republicans this election. This is one of the main reasons that I'm supporting Sanders. Most people see him as an outsider and I think we'll have a better shot with him.
longship
(40,416 posts)Moyers is pissed!
R&
Not Sure
(735 posts)Theres nothing, no matter how jingoistic or xenophobic, extreme or warlike that cant be expressed in public and with pride by a Republican presidential candidate.
All you need is a weak candidate from the Democratic Party and any megalomaniac cretin they run can win handily. Then we're only a Reichstag fire away from fascism. I can easily see Trump as the type who would dispatch his enemies swiftly. I don't see either Trump or Cruz as a punchline; I see them as a serious threat.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)The only difference between then and now is that the GOP has become the TEA Party whole hog.