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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:30 AM Dec 2015

This is what journalists are supposed to do. Kudos to Chris Matthews.

Chris Matthews then continued as he dissected Trump's continued birtherism.

"Well, this is Trump's trump card. It is his ethnic taunt to the worst of the Obama haters. It is his willingness to argue that the President isn't really one of us. That he is on the contrary a mysterious interloper who snuck into our country, assumed an identity that wasn't his, and smuggled himself all the way to the American presidency never once being the person he claims to be. Well this is the original Trump sin back again. This is the trumped up libel that our front running candidate is willing to sell whenever he finds an audience as he did today willing to swallow it only because they hate Obama personally, hate his progressive politics, hate most of all his open tolerant world view. I have from the beginning seen Trump as a mixed bag. But this birtherism which he exhumed today is the bad he carries with him, refuses to dump, and is so willing to sell."


Matthews then went after Trumps' supporters.

"For those who applauded him today, cheered at his insinuation that the President hides himself as a defender of Islamist terrorism, I can only say this," Chris Matthews said. "You should be ashamed. None of us should applaud this 21st century McCarthyism, this cheap insinuation against a fellow American backed up by nothing but hate."


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This is what journalists are supposed to do. Kudos to Chris Matthews. (Original Post) kpete Dec 2015 OP
+1. Trump is proving that ignorance and blind rage is a common thread in his supporters. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #1
Who wouldn't want to make America great again?? pocoloco Dec 2015 #6
Are we great? If so, why? sulphurdunn Dec 2015 #33
Trump would fit in with the European neo Fascist. alfredo Dec 2015 #15
If only Chris Matthews had a speck of credibility. nt FlatBaroque Dec 2015 #2
That would certainly help. nt navarth Dec 2015 #3
I haven't been able to stand him since he drooled over Shrub's codpiece strut on the carrier. kairos12 Dec 2015 #4
I took it as his appreciation of that bit of political theater. alfredo Dec 2015 #16
^^Yup^^ zentrum Dec 2015 #29
Can't STAND the man n/t Brainstormy Dec 2015 #5
He brings up the birther issue as much as Donald Trump. I have noticed that on his program. mfcorey1 Dec 2015 #8
That is the problem. nt Enthusiast Dec 2015 #37
K&R...for truth to trump spanone Dec 2015 #7
Even Tweety gets it right sometimes. TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #9
Matthews is a 21st century TV journalist/opinion spewer NoMoreRepugs Dec 2015 #10
Chris Matthews' willingness to expose Trump's imbicility is refreshing, but - Stainless Dec 2015 #13
Even a blind squirrel tazkcmo Dec 2015 #40
He has set an example for journalists! We need more critical thinking. Duval Dec 2015 #11
I'm not crazy about Chris. PatrickforO Dec 2015 #12
and covered endlessly by MSM daybranch Dec 2015 #14
None of that is Journalism. Indydem Dec 2015 #17
calling out bullshit isn't journalism? Skittles Dec 2015 #23
Chris is doing some journalism and some opinion, but the journalism he is doing that randys1 Dec 2015 #26
Doesn't seem far off from one of the greatest acts of journalism in our history Curtis Dec 2015 #36
Well-stated by Chris Matthews and seemed from the heart Boomerproud Dec 2015 #18
Mathews gets this wrong all the time . . FairWinds Dec 2015 #19
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #20
Tweety rarely "gets it".... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #21
So Tweetie let his pro-war boner go soft, for one evening of Trump-bashing. Paladin Dec 2015 #22
I was watching that broadcast Tab Dec 2015 #24
Far worse than Trump complain jane Dec 2015 #25
Does one "attaboy" cancel out the hundreds of "awshits" earned by this douchebag over the years? tularetom Dec 2015 #27
I'll give Tweety no more than a DUH! shadowmayor Dec 2015 #28
I miss Keith. nt zentrum Dec 2015 #30
I have never been a tweety fan DonCoquixote Dec 2015 #31
when matthews is good, he's good restorefreedom Dec 2015 #32
33 replies and 200 recommended. Kokonoe Dec 2015 #34
Did Tweety speculate on when Hair Fuhrer tavernier Dec 2015 #35
Don't know the answer to your specific question. Laelth Dec 2015 #38
k&r... CanSocDem Dec 2015 #39
 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
33. Are we great? If so, why?
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:06 PM
Dec 2015

“America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”

― Alexis de Tocqueville

alfredo

(60,074 posts)
16. I took it as his appreciation of that bit of political theater.
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 01:16 PM
Dec 2015

He does that all the time with politicians on both sides of the aisle. Chris is a political groupie. He gives credit where credit is due. He appreciated the political skill of Reagan, Obama, and Clinton. That is separate from an endorsement of that person's policies. Let's say it is a man crush, nothing more.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,431 posts)
10. Matthews is a 21st century TV journalist/opinion spewer
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:31 AM
Dec 2015

of course he is going to be a windsock who occasionally throws something out there that brings some attention back to himself...

Stainless

(718 posts)
13. Chris Matthews' willingness to expose Trump's imbicility is refreshing, but -
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 12:00 PM
Dec 2015

I still don't like him because he is all over the map with his own idiotic dogma and shilling for corporate whores.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
11. He has set an example for journalists! We need more critical thinking.
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:34 AM
Dec 2015

I have new respect for Chris Matthews.

PatrickforO

(14,576 posts)
12. I'm not crazy about Chris.
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:57 AM
Dec 2015

But he's right on this one, and it shows that sometimes journalists can have a bit of integrity.

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
14. and covered endlessly by MSM
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 12:37 PM
Dec 2015

wonder why? The more attention given to republican idiots, the less attention on Hillary's positions in support of the oligarchy and the less knowledge people have that Bernie is the candidate that hold the same positions on the issues as a majority of Americans and has been fighting the oligarchy and for the people for decades. Do not be fooled, the real battle for democracy is being waged in the democratic primaries, and this side show is just to put apparent distance between Hillary and republicans although they both share the same donor bosses. The sleight of hand is hear, do not be deceived, Hillary is just another way of saying republican lite but still working for the same causes and donors as republicans-enrichment of the oligarchy.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
17. None of that is Journalism.
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 01:48 PM
Dec 2015

It may be what you think Journalism is, but what is quoted there is nothing but opinion.

That, is no no better than Olielly, Hannity, or Limbaugh.

"A journalist is a person who collects, writes, or distributes news or other current information."

There is nothing there that is news or other current information. All commentary and opinion.

If anything, Tweety is a sign of what Faux News has DONE to "journalism" by making reporting the simple facts in an unbiased way, impossible.

Celebrate it if you want, but it isn't journalism.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
26. Chris is doing some journalism and some opinion, but the journalism he is doing that
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 07:26 PM
Dec 2015

most others are afraid to do is calling out this vile piece of shit, Trump

Curtis

(348 posts)
36. Doesn't seem far off from one of the greatest acts of journalism in our history
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:26 AM
Dec 2015
"Both in Vietnam and Washington to have faith any longer in the silver linings they find in the darkest clouds. For it seems now more certain than ever, that the bloody experience of Vietnam is to end in a stalemate. To say that we are closer to victory today is to believe in the face of the evidence, the optimists who have been wrong in the past.

To say that we are mired in stalemate seems the only realistic, if unsatisfactory conclusion. On the off chance that military and political analysts are right, in the next few months we must test the enemy's intentions, in case this is indeed his last big gasp before negotiations.

But it is increasingly clear to this reporter that the only rational way out then will be to negotiate, not as victors, but as an honorable people who lived up to their pledge to defend democracy, and did the best they could.

This is Walter Cronkite. Good night."


If a journalist can call bullshit using facts,it is that journalists duty to do so.

Boomerproud

(7,953 posts)
18. Well-stated by Chris Matthews and seemed from the heart
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 02:25 PM
Dec 2015

but as other posters have said calling out Trump and his supporters for what they are is something we at DU (if not the media) have been doing all along. Holding a mirror up to them doesn't seem to do anything. I'm starting to get because everyone keeps waiting for Trump to self-destruct and it hasn't happened, and the campaign should never have been able to get traction in the first place.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
19. Mathews gets this wrong all the time . .
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 02:36 PM
Dec 2015

Trump et al". . hate his [Obama's] progressive politics, ."

Obama is only very rarely progressive in any sense of the term.

I cannot stand Tweety either.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
21. Tweety rarely "gets it"....
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 04:02 PM
Dec 2015

In fact, his tag line is, "I don't get it!"

Example: After the San Bernardino massacre he fixated on the police saying they used "long guns". He kept thinking it was stupid to bring long guns into what he assumed was a small room. He wouldn't let it go grilling each of his guests over it until he said "long guns" at least 20 times.

Tab

(11,093 posts)
24. I was watching that broadcast
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 05:47 PM
Dec 2015

and was thinking that Tweety (ol' BartCop's name for him) had grown a pair. I'm glad he said that. I'm thinking that even shills and apologists are getting pissed off.

Technically journalism? Don't know, but if you want to consider "thought leaders", "pundits", or whatever, at least he's saying it. More and more people need to be willing to put this out in the open. Jon Stewart, Keith Olbermann, and others were breaking the ground in this regard. I'm glad Matthews is willing to finally speak up.

On edit: Goodness only knows what Jon would be thinking or say, and Colbert's off this week.

complain jane

(4,302 posts)
25. Far worse than Trump
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 07:22 PM
Dec 2015

are his supporters. Vile, hateful, willfully ignorant, easily swayed, angry, visceral.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
27. Does one "attaboy" cancel out the hundreds of "awshits" earned by this douchebag over the years?
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 07:37 PM
Dec 2015

Maybe to some it might.

I'm not one of them.

Chris Matthews is the same drooling moran he has always been.

shadowmayor

(1,325 posts)
28. I'll give Tweety no more than a DUH!
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 08:07 PM
Dec 2015

And I am not now, nor have I ever been a part of the "We're all neocons now" group. He's still a major butt-lick and probably behind the push to get rid of Big Eddy just like he did with Phil Donahue.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
31. I have never been a tweety fan
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 09:41 PM
Dec 2015

but by using the word McCarthyism, the one word sure to send Ann coulter into shriek mode, he showed courage. I will give the devil every penny of his due.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
38. Don't know the answer to your specific question.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 07:20 AM
Dec 2015

But I'd guess "when he loses the nomination" would be a good bet.

-Laelth

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
39. k&r...
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:24 AM
Dec 2015


...for MSNBC's last bastion of honesty. Who else features the progressive voice of David Corn and Mother Jones, every day!

Chris Mathews is a smart guy...IMHO. Not a pleasant conversationalist, but well informed just the same.


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