What kind of "parent" let's her baby play in a virtual bomb factory?

[MoonRiver]

Last edited Fri Dec 4, 2015, 02:55 PM - Edit history (1)

I'm basing this statement from CNN reporter reports as they look inside the killers' home.

[Yorktown]

1. One that places religion above all else

[MoonRiver]

2. Yes and it is horrifying.

[Yorktown]

3. Religion is often

horrifying.

[MoonRiver]

12. Agreed

Any honest student of history knows this.

[hifiguy]

23. + a brazilian.

And that book is one of the best, most coruscating and brutally truthful rants EVER.

[Cleita]

4. Many mothers let their babies play in homes with guns and ammo all over the place.

It's terrible but it happens. Sometimes those children get killed or maimed or they grow up to be Adam Lanza.

[MoonRiver]

8. Yes these monsters exist tragically

Hope this particular little baby can somehow have a good life. Poor thing

[librechik]

5. sociopaths bent on mass murder don't know how to love, or feel anything, really.

What else could explain it?

[bklyncowgirl]

6. A homicidal religious fanatic would be a good guess.

She'd probably strap a bomb to the kid if she thought it would serve the cause.

[flamin lib]

7. The same kind of Mother or Father who will keep a loaded gun

in the house without securing it in a locked gunsafe.

10,000 toddlers a year killed or killing others with unsecured guns.

WTF, the kid was safer in that house than in most "responsible gun owners" homes.

[linuxman]

9. 10,000?

I don't suppose you have a link.

[flamin lib]

10. I'm not your google monkey. nt

[linuxman]

11. No, just the regular variety, I guess.

Bullshit presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

[flamin lib]

17. So I'm a liar? Is that where you're going?

No, that many children are shot, shoot, wounded or killed every year by guns.

Prove me wrong. And in the process, when you find that only 8,000 are shot, shoot, wounded or killed perhaps you can justify it.

I am not going to play the game. You want a link? Go find one.

[snooper2]

21. "10,000 toddlers a year killed or killing others with unsecured guns."

You mentioned specifically killed by unsecured guns

I see you google monkeyed it yourself and probably found the first links referencing a Pediatrics medical journal study from 2014. I see you found this and added all gunshots, not just unsecured guns, and dropped the number from 10K to 8K. From your original premise just kids killed by unsecured guns, probably less than 100. We hear about every single one of those instances and even at the max it would be 1 a day, 365 a year.


Just clearing up the facts since I am the BEST google monkey!

"Oh, and FYI I think if a child 12 or younger kills or injures someone with an unsecured firearm the owner should get a minimum 10 years in prison.

[flamin lib]

25. Okay you've picked at all the appropriate nits, but justify

the numbers YOU came up with.

You good with them? Like the outcome of your search? Think it's all good?

Well good for you.

But punishing someone after a kid is killed or injured is better than nothing. Not much better but I suppose it's something.

[snooper2]

27. no, what I am good with is facts. Hyperbole gets nothing done

Too many guns in this country- Not going to get them all, even close to half of them....


You have to make the penalties severe for the owners. Every gun owner should also have to carry insurance. You kill somebody or injure somebody with your weapon, insurance goes up and has to pay out. You want to open carry, better fucking have insurance.

Oh, and shit like, gun going off in a restaurant, insurance will pay out because of trauma you caused to my young child.



That's how you start fixing things-

[flamin lib]

30. Okay, I'm there with you.

Still, prevention is preferable to treatment. That's why I have a colonoscopy periodically. Which is why I'm not going anywhere this weekend. (and that calls into question the cost of prevention)

[linuxman]

28. No,

I'm saying you are wrong and create your own facts out of thin air.

It's only a lie if you know it's not true. In your case, I believe you believe your statements.

The burden of proof is always on the one making the claim. Most high schoolers could tell you that.

[Cleita]

32. LOL!

I like that.

[bullwinkle428]

20. 43 shootings BY children under AGE 3 in the U.S. as of 10/15/15.

Still, an utterly pornographic number. 31 of the 43 shot themselves, while the remainder shot or killed others.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11932821/toddler-shooting-gun-controls-america.html

[LanternWaste]

13. The same kind that refuses vaccinations for their children.

The same kind that raises a child in an environment of methamphetamine. The same kind that lives in a household where children accidentally shoot one another.

Though I realize the convenience of pinning her shortcomings on one and only one thing, human nature and our subconscious ability to rationalize any action is not quite so lazy as to rely on one and only thing.

It does tend to beg a larger question: What kind of nation allows 20 six and seven year old schoolchildren to be massacred while in class with absolutely no change at all to relevant policy?

[Phentex]

29. You're right...

not a damn thing has been done since then.

[OldHippieChick]

14. She never cared about the child. The baby

was just another tool to control the husband - IMHO.

[Warpy]

15. Either a radicalized one

or one who was isolated in a foreign country and controlled by an abusive husband.

Both are equally likely.

[alcibiades_mystery]

16. I don't allow my children into people's homes if I know they own guns

These two terrorists were surely horrible parents. People who keep guns in the house with small children are also terrible parents.

[MoonRiver]

31. True that.

[moondust]

18. Blinded by religious fanaticism? n/t

[cyberswede]

19. The baby had a "father" too - why single out the mother?

They were both culpable.

[MoonRiver]

22. That's true.

Guess because I am a mother I can't comprehend it. But I also can't comprehend a father being so irresponsible.

Updated my thread to reflect this. Thanks for the call out!

[cyberswede]

24. I appreciate the edit

[Nye Bevan]

26. Some of these people have been known to stone their own children to death for adultery.

The heartbreaking footage shows the woman - who is accused of committing adultery - begging her dad to forgive her, saying "please father" and "forgive me".

But - despite his daughter being moments away from being brutally killed - he refuses and says: "I am not your father anymore".

He then turns to the militants stood nearby and signals for his daughters brutal execution to begin.

As the young woman lies in a pit, huge rocks are thrown onto her. Her father then picks up one of largest rocks and uses it to kill his helpless daughter.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/sickening-isis-video-shows-moment-4475785

Parental affection and responsibility is not necessarily top of the priority list for these people.