San Bernardino shooting live updates: No sign attackers are part of a terrorist network, FBI chief s

[WhiteTara]

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-shooting-live-updates-htmlstory.html

FBI Director James Comey:

— The probe is now a federal terrorism investigation led by the FBI.

— The investigation has uncovered evidence of radicalization of the killers and potential inspiration by foreign terrorist organizations.

— Agents are sifting through a large volume of electronic evidence, much of which the shooters “tried to destroy and conceal from us.”

— There is no evidence that the killers are part of an organized larger terrorist group, or that they form part of a terrorist cell.

— The couple had not previously been known to the FBI.

— Stephen Ceasar

short update no more at link

[Dems to Win]

1. How about the 6 mid eastern men seen leaving the apartment?

Found them? Maybe a network there?

I'm very skeptical that the FBI has this in hand.....

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/12/02/authorities-search-redlands-home-tied-to-suspect-syed-farook/

A man who has been working in the area said he noticed a half-dozen Middle Eastern men in the area in recent weeks, but decided not to report anything since he did not wish to racially profile those people.

“We sat around lunch thinking, ‘What were they doing around the neighborhood?'” he said. “We’d see them leave where they’re raiding the apartment.”

[Codeine]

2. I personally know that man.

He's my boss's brother in law. Their whole family acknowledges he's a pathological liar who wanted to be on tv.

[Dems to Win]

5. Thanks for the info

[winstars]

6. What does the "inland empire" actually mean anyway??? Not trying to be funny, just asking...

[Codeine]

9. This whole area was once known as the Orange Empire

because we had an enormous citrus industry. That went away as groves gave way to development, so we were eventually dubbed the Inland Empire because we're inland from the greater Los Angeles area.

[HereSince1628]

11. How many of the friends and family that visit your home are the same ethnicity or religion?

I think the chance of innocent presence of 'mid-eastern' looking men in the home of immigrants from Pakistan and Saudi Arabia is very high

All the associates of a mass-shooter will get investigated, but I expect a fair number of innocent people.

[Dems to Win]

12. How many groups of six men visit a home with mom, dad, and baby?

I would expect other couples, other moms with babies, to be visiting.

I hope you're correct that the FBI checks out everyone they knew. Their performance so far is not inspiring confidence, with the press allowed into the apartment.

[HereSince1628]

13. I don't know about you, but that happens for me...we call them family get togethers

Everyone in my family looks, dresses and talks pretty much the same.

If your fear was eastern Europeans and your search image had you noticing eastern European sorts of people, stocky, jowly and with bushy eyebrows who otherwise keep to themselves... I'm sure you'd be noticing us.

People find what they look for. Sometimes because they see what they want to see, and sometimes because they interpret what they want from what they want to see.

It's a shaky business, and I'm mostly skeptical and quite cynical about xenophobic trends, even though once in a while when you think a foreigner is up to no good, they are.

But then much of the time, the nativists who are -really- dangerous are the ones pointing fingers and diverting attention from an internal problem.

[B2G]

3. Is this the same FBI that cleared their apt after only 2 days,

and leaving behind shredded documents, all manner of ID and no fingerprint dust?

Just checking.

[TeeYiYi]

7. Exactly! ...

Something just doesn't feel right about that apartment snafu... Who stands to gain from contaminating the crime scene like that?... mihop

TYY

[TwilightGardener]

4. I'll bet they were "inspired by" ISIS/AQ, not actually card carrying members

being directed as a cell by the hierarchy. Kind of an independent franchise.

[moondust]

8. Seemingly an independent sleeper cell.

Possibly just the two of them, maybe others.

[hifiguy]

10. Like the London Subway bombers back in '05.

There seem to be similarities.