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By Stephanie Mencimer
Texas residents Sue Evenwel and Ed Pfenninger want the court to create a uniform national standard for drawing legislative districts based on the total number of eligible voters in them, as opposed to the total number of people, which is the standard that Texas and many other states use now. Such a change would effectively diminish the political clout of urban areas, which have large populations of people who can't vote, such as felons, children and noncitizen.
If the court agrees, states throughout the country could be compelled to shift their legislative districts to conform with the ruling, causing a massive upheaval in the political system with serious repercussions for minority voters. Some experts have said such a change is completely unworkable because of the unreliability of voter registration data. And many civil rights groups see it as nothing but a GOP power grab. "These plaintiffs in Texas are interested in stemming the growth of Latino political power," contends Thomas Saenz, president and general counsel of the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund.
Who are the plaintiffs who want to redraw the political map? Evenwel is a Texas GOP and tea party activist who was a big supporter of former Gov. Rick Perry, who appointed her to serve on the Texas Funeral Service Commission, which oversees the funeral industry. She's the longtime chair of the Titus County Republican Party and a member of the Texas state Republican Party executive committee. In the past, she's been a political booster of tea party favorites including former Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), Sarah Palin, and former Florida Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.). Lately, she's championed the presidential bid of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas). Evenwel did not return a call or email requesting comment.
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http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/12/evenwel-abbott-supreme-court-redistricting
randys1
(16,286 posts)I simply cant.
As it is the GOP gets MILLIONS less votes than the Dems yet controls our fucking House, this is going to make it even worse.
LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)How is this even a case?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Text
LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)only landowners can vote.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,319 posts)It's the number of seats that each state gets that is determined by "representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed." The amendment then goes on to define a way to discourage denying "any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States" the vote. So they've made a distinction between the 'number of persons' and male adult citizens.
And remember that the original constitution had the infamous 'three fifths' clause in, again making a distinction between the number of seats a state gets, and the people who stood a chance of voting - male, free citizens, as opposed to the slaves, who didn't get three fifihs of a vote, but none at all.
Also, this particular case is about how a state is divided up, so the constitutional rules about how many seats an entire state gets don't directly apply - though they might be used as a guideline. But there is a case that the constitution would be happy with dividing them up by eligible voters. Forcing all states to do it that way seems a stretch, to me.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Where do you think this comes from?
But srsly, folks, are unicorns ever mentioned in the Bible?
And then there's the unicorn, which appears repeatedly in Pfenninger's online posts. Arguing with a commenter to one of his YouTube videos, Pfenninger wrote in 2013 that the "unicorn was a real creature known for it's (sic) great strength, and is also referred to in ancient literature."
Yes they are.
procon
(15,805 posts)Many potential voters in red states are disenfranchised or victims of voter suppression laws by various state governments. The actions of the government affects everyone who lives within a legislative district, not just those who might be eligible to vote on election day. There is no law that requires anyone to register to vote, or even vote at all, but the government affects everyone equally.
This is just another Republican tactic to tip the ballot box in their favor and marginalize large masses of people who predictably vote for Democrats. Their voter base is shrinking and demographics are against them, so without cheating they can't win a national election.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)struggle4progress
(118,285 posts)seems clear enough; and the report of the first census in 1790, signed by Thomas Jefferson as Secretary of State, confirms the obvious reading: the whole number was counted, including white males both above and below age sixteen, free white females, other free persons, and slaves
The 1790 census curiously has data for ME (bracketed with MA) and for KY (bracketed with VA), but none listed separately for VT: ME didn't enter as a state separate from MA until 1820; but both VT and KY joined shortly after 1790 and were each assigned 2 seats temporarily by 1791 statute. Applying the Jeffersonian apportionment method to the 101 seats (of the 105 made available by Congress, disregarding the 2 provided for Vermont and the 2 provided for Kentucky by statute), leads to the exact apportionment used (after the usual experimentation with divisor, which works with the divisor 33000 reported at that time, and taking into account the 3/5 rule for slaves)
The historical evidence therefore makes it quite clear that the apportionment based on the 1790 census was based on the whole count of the free population, voting or not