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Tab

(11,093 posts)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:04 PM Dec 2015

I'm about ready to do a non-profit or PAC or something for smart gun control

What, really - since I would have to formally propose this - would be a reasonable "ask" that we're trying to accomplish. Registration? Ammo restrictions? I have ideas, but I'd like to hear from others. Respond or PM privately, depending on your comfort level. And if you think I'm nuts, please say so (but nicely).

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I'm about ready to do a non-profit or PAC or something for smart gun control (Original Post) Tab Dec 2015 OP
just learn as much as you can on the topic Duckhunter935 Dec 2015 #1
Good idea alfie Dec 2015 #2
these are good ideas, too... Phentex Dec 2015 #8
Comprehensive universal background checks would be step 1. MH1 Dec 2015 #3
To increase interest, offer some kind of funding for hunters or environmental causes also. world wide wally Dec 2015 #4
That reminds me - ban lead in any kind of ammunition used for sport hunting. MH1 Dec 2015 #5
You have to work the shadows like Republicans do. world wide wally Dec 2015 #7
With background checks, register all gun transfers. MH1 Dec 2015 #6
One of the most important steps, IMO, wouldn't even require changing the law. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #9
My $0.02 TNLiberal4 Dec 2015 #10

alfie

(522 posts)
2. Good idea
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:11 PM
Dec 2015

I would go for registration and ammo restrictions. Stage 2 would be assault type weapons. Then I would go for funding CDC to study gun violence with the cooperation of psychiatrists and psychologists.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
3. Comprehensive universal background checks would be step 1.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:13 PM
Dec 2015

Of course we've been trying for years.

And that's ONLY step 1, in my opinion.

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
4. To increase interest, offer some kind of funding for hunters or environmental causes also.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:23 PM
Dec 2015

All we want is "reason".
We're supposed to be sentient beings.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
5. That reminds me - ban lead in any kind of ammunition used for sport hunting.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:35 PM
Dec 2015

(Which presumably would be all of it, but I am not an expert).

Lead in ammunition is HORRIBLE for the environment.

I thought some law had already been passed but based on something I read today, I guess not. It is sorely needed. Not much impact on gun violence, but huge for the environment.

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
7. You have to work the shadows like Republicans do.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:40 PM
Dec 2015

All they ever do is end runs. Usually to the right.
They never go up the middle or to the left.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
6. With background checks, register all gun transfers.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:38 PM
Dec 2015

Prohibit transfer without appropriate registration. Therefore if a gun is used in a crime, the cops will be looking at the last person who is registered as receiving it, and that person had better have a damned good story.

Would cut down greatly on straw purchases and thus make background checks more effective.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
9. One of the most important steps, IMO, wouldn't even require changing the law.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 02:50 PM
Dec 2015

I might suggest dedicating your efforts to encouraging far, far more vigorous enforcement of the federal law against straw purchases. Recent research has indicated that this is one of the biggest sources for prohibited persons (that is, felons, etc.) to obtain weapons. More criminals obtain guns through straw purchases that via theft.

Unfortunately, people are seldom prosecuted for this very serious felony crime. I part, that's because it's a difficult crime to prosecute and each attempt requires significant resources. Perhaps a lobbying effort to greatly increase funding for such prosecutions would be beneficial.

Obviously this isn't a step that has anything to do with mass shootings (most mass shooters aren't people with criminal records that prevent their legally buying a gun). This would be aimed at criminals committing gun homicides and other violent crimes,a number enormously greater than mass killings. In my book, a much bigger priority...

TNLiberal4

(15 posts)
10. My $0.02
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 03:02 PM
Dec 2015
Gun control specifics
- Universal background checks (or at minimum open up NICS for private transfers)
- Force/incentivize states to report disqualifying offences so that background checks are effective
- Remove the block on CDC research of gun violence
- Ban of all semi-autos with detachable magazines

Other related priorities
- End the war on drugs
- Massively improve funding for mental healthcare
- Fund the ATF so they can better investigate/audit/enforce
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