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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 06:35 PM Dec 2015

Iraqi blogger tells of leaving Iraq for Syria, and then on to the next country as a refugee.

The consequences of our invasion of Iraq are more obvious all the time. It was a disastrous decision led by a bunch of hawkish Bush advisors and approved by Democrats too fearful to stand up to Bush's popularity after 9/11.

Most of us who were here as the invasion of Iraq began were reading the blogs by Iraqis. One of the most read was Baghdad Burning by a blogger who called herself Riverbend.

I keep her blog bookmarked, though she only posted once since 2007.

Thursday, April 26, 2007 The Great Wall of Segregation.

Which is the wall the current Iraqi government is building (with the support and guidance of the Americans). It's a wall that is intended to separate and isolate what is now considered the largest 'Sunni' area in Baghdad- let no one say the Americans are not building anything. According to plans the Iraqi puppets and Americans cooked up, it will 'protect' A'adhamiya, a residential/mercantile area that the current Iraqi government and their death squads couldn't empty of Sunnis.

The wall, of course, will protect no one. I sometimes wonder if this is how the concentration camps began in Europe. The Nazi government probably said, "Oh look- we're just going to protect the Jews with this little wall here- it will be difficult for people to get into their special area to hurt them!" And yet, it will also be difficult to get out.

The Wall is the latest effort to further break Iraqi society apart. Promoting and supporting civil war isn't enough, apparently- Iraqis have generally proven to be more tenacious and tolerant than their mullahs, ayatollahs, and Vichy leaders. It's time for America to physically divide and conquer- like Berlin before the wall came down or Palestine today. This way, they can continue chasing Sunnis out of "Shia areas" and Shia out of "Sunni areas".

I remember Baghdad before the war- one could live anywhere. We didn't know what our neighbors were- we didn't care. No one asked about religion or sect. No one bothered with what was considered a trivial topic: are you Sunni or Shia? You only asked something like that if you were uncouth and backward. Our lives revolve around it now. Our existence depends on hiding it or highlighting it- depending on the group of masked men who stop you or raid your home in the middle of the night.

On a personal note, we've finally decided to leave. I guess I've known we would be leaving for a while now. We discussed it as a family dozens of times. At first, someone would suggest it tentatively because, it was just a preposterous idea- leaving ones home and extended family- leaving ones country- and to what? To where?


How are we supposed to forget that our country did this with the cooperation of the media and both major parties?

I can only imagine my feelings if this happened here in our country.

Thursday, September 06, 2007 Leaving Home.

The last few hours in the house were a blur. It was time to go and I went from room to room saying goodbye to everything. I said goodbye to my desk- the one I’d used all through high school and college. I said goodbye to the curtains and the bed and the couch. I said goodbye to the armchair E. and I broke when we were younger. I said goodbye to the big table over which we’d gathered for meals and to do homework. I said goodbye to the ghosts of the framed pictures that once hung on the walls, because the pictures have long since been taken down and stored away- but I knew just what hung where. I said goodbye to the silly board games we inevitably fought over- the Arabic Monopoly with the missing cards and money that no one had the heart to throw away.

I knew then as I know now that these were all just items- people are so much more important. Still, a house is like a museum in that it tells a certain history. You look at a cup or stuffed toy and a chapter of memories opens up before your very eyes. It suddenly hit me that I wanted to leave so much less than I thought I did.

.....Syria is the only country, other than Jordan, that was allowing people in without a visa. The Jordanians are being horrible with refugees. Families risk being turned back at the Jordanian border, or denied entry at Amman Airport. It’s too high a risk for most families.

...We were all refugees- rich or poor. And refugees all look the same- there’s a unique expression you’ll find on their faces- relief, mixed with sorrow, tinged with apprehension. The faces almost all look the same.

The first minutes after passing the border were overwhelming. Overwhelming relief and overwhelming sadness… How is it that only a stretch of several kilometers and maybe twenty minutes, so firmly segregates life from death?

How is it that a border no one can see or touch stands between car bombs, militias, death squads and… peace, safety? It’s difficult to believe- even now. I sit here and write this and wonder why I can’t hear the explosions.


I doubt anyone would describe Syria that way today.

At that point in 2007 it was estimated there were 1.5 million Iraqis in Syria seeking a safe haven. But then they learned the same powers that invaded Iraq were working with Syria to make it harder for Iraqis to enter that country.

Monday, October 22, 2007 Bloggers Without Borders.

Syria is a beautiful country- at least I think it is. I say “I think” because while I perceive it to be beautiful, I sometimes wonder if I mistake safety, security and normalcy for ‘beauty’. In so many ways, Damascus is like Baghdad before the war- bustling streets, occasional traffic jams, markets seemingly always full of shoppers… And in so many ways it’s different. The buildings are higher, the streets are generally narrower and there’s a mountain, Qasiyoun, that looms in the distance.

....The first weeks here were something of a cultural shock. It has taken me these last three months to work away certain habits I’d acquired in Iraq after the war. It’s funny how you learn to act a certain way and don’t even know you’re doing strange things- like avoiding people’s eyes in the street or crazily murmuring prayers to yourself when stuck in traffic. It took me at least three weeks to teach myself to walk properly again- with head lifted, not constantly looking behind me.

....Within a month of our being here, we began hearing talk about Syria requiring visas from Iraqis, like most other countries. Apparently, our esteemed puppets in power met with Syrian and Jordanian authorities and decided they wanted to take away the last two safe havens remaining for Iraqis- Damascus and Amman. The talk began in late August and was only talk until recently- early October. Iraqis entering Syria now need a visa from the Syrian consulate or embassy in the country they are currently in. In the case of Iraqis still in Iraq, it is said that an approval from the Ministry of Interior is also required (which kind of makes it difficult for people running away from militias OF the Ministry of Interior…). Today, there’s talk of a possible fifty dollar visa at the border.

Iraqis who entered Syria before the visa was implemented were getting a one month visitation visa at the border. As soon as that month was over, you could take your passport and visit the local immigration bureau. If you were lucky, they would give you an additional month or two. When talk about visas from the Syrian embassy began, they stopped giving an extension on the initial border visa. We, as a family, had a brilliant idea. Before the commotion of visas began, and before we started needing a renewal, we decided to go to one of the border crossings, cross into Iraq, and come back into Syria- everyone was doing it. It would buy us some time- at least 2 months.


Riverbend's words when she was hit with the full realization that her family were truly refugees.

By the time we had reentered the Syrian border and were headed back to the cab ready to take us into Kameshli, I had resigned myself to the fact that we were refugees. I read about refugees on the Internet daily… in the newspapers… hear about them on TV. I hear about the estimated 1.5 million plus Iraqi refugees in Syria and shake my head, never really considering myself or my family as one of them. After all, refugees are people who sleep in tents and have no potable water or plumbing, right? Refugees carry their belongings in bags instead of suitcases and they don’t have cell phones or Internet access, right? Grasping my passport in my hand like my life depended on it, with two extra months in Syria stamped inside, it hit me how wrong I was. We were all refugees. I was suddenly a number. No matter how wealthy or educated or comfortable, a refugee is a refugee. A refugee is someone who isn’t really welcome in any country- including their own... especially their own.


Riverbend's blog was made into a book.

Riverbend's weblog entries were first collected and published as Baghdad Burning, ISBN 978-1-55861-489-5 (with a foreword by investigative journalist James Ridgeway),[2] and Baghdad Burning II, ISBN 978-1-55861-529-8, (also with an introduction by James Ridgeway and Jean Casella).[3] They have since been translated and published in numerous countries and languages. In 2005, the book, Baghdad Burning, won third place for the Lettre Ulysses Award for the Art of Reportage and in 2006 it was longlisted for the Samuel Johnson Prize.[4][5][6]

Baghdad Burning has also been made into several dramatic plays, mostly produced in New York City. BBC Radio 4 broadcast a five-episode dramatisation of her blog, "Baghdad Burning", on the "Woman's Hour" Serial, on each day from the 18th of December, 2006 until the 22nd of December, 2006.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riverbend_%28blogger%29


She came back to her blog one more time in 2013. It was a sad kind of post with some understandably bitter overtones.

Tuesday, April 09, 2013 Ten Years On.

Looking back at the last ten years, what have our occupiers and their Iraqi governments given us in ten years? What have our puppets achieved in this last decade? What have we learned?

We learned a lot.

We learned that while life is not fair, death is even less fair- it takes the good people. Even in death you can be unlucky. Lucky ones die a ‘normal’ death… A familiar death of cancer, or a heart-attack, or stroke. Unlucky ones have to be collected in bits and pieces. Their families trying to bury what can be salvaged and scraped off of streets that have seen so much blood, it is a wonder they are not red.

We learned that you can be floating on a sea of oil, but your people can be destitute. Your city can be an open sewer; your women and children can be eating out of trash dumps and begging for money in foreign lands.

We learned that justice does not prevail in this day and age. Innocent people are persecuted and executed daily. Some of them in courts, some of them in streets, and some of them in the private torture chambers.

We are learning that corruption is the way to go. You want a passport issued? Pay someone. You want a document ratified? Pay someone. You want someone dead? Pay someone.


She asked if we as Americans are safer. She said she moved on from Syria before the heavy fighting.

Finally, after all is said and done, we shouldn't forget what this was about - making America safer... And are you safer Americans? If you are, why is it that we hear more and more about attacks on your embassies and diplomats? Why is it that you are constantly warned to not go to this country or that one? Is it better now, ten years down the line? Do you feel safer, with hundreds of thousands of Iraqis out of the way (granted half of them were women and children, but children grow up, right?)?

And what happened to Riverbend and my family? I eventually moved from Syria. I moved before the heavy fighting, before it got ugly. That’s how fortunate I was. I moved to another country nearby, stayed almost a year, and then made another move to a third Arab country with the hope that, this time, it’ll stick until… Until when? Even the pessimists aren’t sure anymore. When will things improve? When will be able to live normally? How long will it take?


Invading Iraq was a wrongheaded decision that has had grave consequences. Those who voted yes to this invasion were warned about the instability that would come to the Middle East.

And we are supposed to simply forget it all happened?





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Iraqi blogger tells of leaving Iraq for Syria, and then on to the next country as a refugee. (Original Post) madfloridian Dec 2015 OP
I wondered what happened to her, wonder now what happened to her uppityperson Dec 2015 #1
Riverbend's thoughts on Paul Bremer. Not a fan. From 2003 madfloridian Dec 2015 #2
What's with the duplicate posts? madfloridian Dec 2015 #3
I read every single one of her posts at the time. Live and Learn Dec 2015 #4
I read them also. madfloridian Dec 2015 #5
So very sad to listen to Bill Maher during Halloween week - truedelphi Dec 2015 #6
I don't watch his show anymore. Did not realize he was that way. madfloridian Dec 2015 #7
Thank you for posting LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #8
Iraq is not a popular topic near election time. madfloridian Dec 2015 #9
I don't think the world will ever be at peace until someone actually attacks LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #10
I wonder if consequences for those who pushed for this war would even matter. madfloridian Dec 2015 #15
Getting attacked here in the US is what started us down this entire path... GummyBearz Dec 2015 #19
That wasn't another county attacking us on the main land. Not like the French, English, Russians hav LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #20
It wasn't Iraq. madfloridian Dec 2015 #23
All you say is correct GummyBearz Dec 2015 #27
We know who it was, and we embrace them as friends. madfloridian Dec 2015 #28
^^^ this ^^^ malokvale77 Dec 2015 #21
Kick FloriTexan Dec 2015 #11
I hope so also. Wish she would post again. madfloridian Dec 2015 #12
Starting that war was the worst foreign policy decision in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #13
K&R n/t jtuck004 Dec 2015 #14
Great Post leftcoastmountains Dec 2015 #16
They know. madfloridian Dec 2015 #17
Moving story about rebuilding the Mu’alaq Bridge over the Tigris. madfloridian Dec 2015 #18
Indeed... MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #22
Thanks for the kick. madfloridian Dec 2015 #29
K&R for the original post and subsequent informative posts and links. Bookmark. JEB Dec 2015 #24
You're welcome. madfloridian Dec 2015 #25
Seems like we have swept so much dirt under the rug, JEB Dec 2015 #26
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #30
Thank you so much for posting this here artislife Dec 2015 #31
This blog haunts me. madfloridian Dec 2015 #32
It's also good to read Salam Pax madfloridian Dec 2015 #33
One flashback by Salam Pax to 2003. Disturbing. madfloridian Dec 2015 #35
Thank you, I remember reading all of the posts here about Riverbend's blog. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #34
Thanks for this post "MF"-- KoKo Dec 2015 #36
Exactly. artislife Dec 2015 #37
The atmosphere of fear is building again. madfloridian Dec 2015 #38

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
2. Riverbend's thoughts on Paul Bremer. Not a fan. From 2003
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 06:47 PM
Dec 2015
http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/2003_08_01_archive.html

Chaos
“[Iraq] is not a country in chaos and Baghdad is not a city in chaos.” – Paul Bremer


Where is this guy living? Is he even in the same time zone??? I’m incredulous… maybe he's from some alternate universe where shooting, looting, tanks, rape, abductions, and assassinations aren’t considered chaos, but it’s chaos in *my* world.

Ever since the occupation there have been 400 females abducted in Baghdad alone and that is only the number of recorded abductions. Most families don’t go to the Americans to tell about an abduction because they know it’s useless. The male members of the family take it upon themselves to search for the abducted female and get revenge if they find the abductors. What else is there to do? I know if I were abducted I’d much rather my family organize themselves and look for me personally than go to the CPA.

By BBC’s accounts there are 70 cars a day being hijacked in Baghdad alone…

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
4. I read every single one of her posts at the time.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 06:52 PM
Dec 2015

I hope she has found safety and some peace. I won't even ask for her forgiveness.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
5. I read them also.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 07:11 PM
Dec 2015

I think you are right that expecting forgiveness would be too much.

I wish she would post again. Doubt she will.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
6. So very sad to listen to Bill Maher during Halloween week -
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 07:25 PM
Dec 2015

he is so pro-war all things Muslim.

And the guest he brought on was Tulsi Gabbard, a Democratic Congresswoman from Hawai'i.

They began talking about how there is a vast chasm of difference between us Americans and the people that are Muslims. (You could tell Maher would rather have used a different word than Muslim - maybe the word: vermin?)

He let Gabbard ramble on about her experiences as an officer in the US military who was shunned by the Kuwaiti officers in their military.

No discussion that is Saudi Arabia citizens and their allies like Kuwaitis who are the worst about discriminating against women.

And Saudi Arabians and the Kuwaitis are our allies - unlike the people whom we bombed back to the stone age and whose country we destroyed. Those people would be the Iraqi people, and those people were very big on ending a repressive life style for women. Women there did not have to wear head gear, and they were educated - often speaking several languages and having advanced degrees.

If you didn't know differently, you would end up thinking "All Muslims are as Gabbard describes."
And "unless they are our valiant allies, like the Saudi Arabians and the Kuwaitis, they deserve to all be bombed back to the stone age."
It was just so sad.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
9. Iraq is not a popular topic near election time.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 08:05 PM
Dec 2015

But it was a defining moment in my political life. It changed life forever for Iraqis and others in the Middle East.

We meddled and the consequences won't end.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
10. I don't think the world will ever be at peace until someone actually attacks
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 08:09 PM
Dec 2015

us here in the U.S. so that the citizens learns what it feels like. Without us egging on our "Allies", I think there would be a peace outbreak.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
15. I wonder if consequences for those who pushed for this war would even matter.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:40 PM
Dec 2015

Doubt it will ever happen, anyway.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
19. Getting attacked here in the US is what started us down this entire path...
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 10:39 PM
Dec 2015

Does your memory go back to 2001?

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
20. That wasn't another county attacking us on the main land. Not like the French, English, Russians hav
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 11:00 PM
Dec 2015

been attacked by Germany etc..

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
28. We know who it was, and we embrace them as friends.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:49 AM
Dec 2015

And we attacked another country that did not do it. Makes no sense. It goes against any moral standards that should govern our country.

Read what Bob Graham says about it. He's been a veritable voice in the wilderness about the Saudis.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/14/world/middleeast/florida-ex-senator-pursues-claims-of-saudi-ties-to-sept-11-attacks.html?_r=0

A top F.B.I. official unexpectedly arranges a meeting at Dulles International Airport outside Washington with Mr. Graham, the former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, after he has pressed for information on a bureau terrorism inquiry. Mr. Graham, a Democrat, is then hustled off to a clandestine location, where he hopes for a breakthrough in his long pursuit of ties between leading Saudis and the Sept. 11 hijackers.

...“He basically said, ‘Get a life,’ ” Mr. Graham said of the F.B.I. official, who suggested that the former senator was chasing a dead-end investigation.


Graham implicates Saudi officials.

“No. 1, I think the American people deserve to know the truth of what has happened in their name,” said Mr. Graham, who was a co-chairman of the 2002 joint congressional inquiry into the terrorist attacks. “No. 2 is justice for these family members who have suffered such loss and thus far have been frustrated largely by the U.S. government in their efforts to get some compensation.”

He also says national security implications are at stake, suggesting that since Saudi officials were not held accountable for Sept. 11 they have not been restrained in backing a spread of Islamic extremism that threatens United States interests. Saudi leaders have long denied any connection to Sept. 11.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
21. ^^^ this ^^^
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 11:16 PM
Dec 2015

The whole Iraq disaster has changed my thinking on the Democratic party and my fellow citizens.

FloriTexan

(838 posts)
11. Kick
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 08:19 PM
Dec 2015

I remember her. I hope she and her family found peace and were able to settle down someplace they can call home.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
13. Starting that war was the worst foreign policy decision
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:15 PM
Dec 2015

ever. Whoever gave Bushco permission or voted for the IWR, has blood on their hands and are complicit in Riverbend's and her family's plight and misery - and the plight and misery of every single person living in the ME.

And one person we know, who voted for the IWR, thinks their misery is funny and on two occasions has been filmed laughing about it.

That's sick and exposes an evilness that should never be allowed near the WH.

That blog is so sad. Breaks my heart.

leftcoastmountains

(2,968 posts)
16. Great Post
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:57 PM
Dec 2015

I will share it. Also very sad. Why is it that we the people
knew better than our so called elected representatives?

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
17. They know.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 10:07 PM
Dec 2015

They just choose not to acknowledge it. It's a political decision instead of being a morally right wrong I fear.

Yes,it is sad reading that blog.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
18. Moving story about rebuilding the Mu’alaq Bridge over the Tigris.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 10:33 PM
Dec 2015

From 2003:

She's got it pegged just right. Iraqis didn't get to rebuild their own country after Bush II. The outside contractors got all the deals.

http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/2003_08_01_archive.html

My favorite reconstruction project was the Mu’alaq Bridge over the Tigris. It is a suspended bridge that was designed and built by a British company. In 1991 it was bombed and everyone just about gave up on ever being able to cross it again. By 1994, it was up again, exactly as it was- without British companies, with Iraqi expertise. One of the art schools decided that although it wasn’t the most sophisticated bridge in the world, it was going to be the most glamorous. On the day it was opened to the public, it was covered with hundreds of painted flowers in the most outrageous colors- all over the pillars, the bridge itself, the walkways along the sides of the bridge. People came from all over Baghdad just to stand upon it and look down into the Tigris.

So instead of bringing in thousands of foreign companies that are going to want billions of dollars, why aren’t the Iraqi engineers, electricians and laborers being taken advantage of? Thousands of people who have no work would love to be able to rebuild Iraq… no one is being given a chance.

The reconstruction of Iraq is held above our heads like a promise and a threat. People roll their eyes at reconstruction because they know (Iraqis are wily) that these dubious reconstruction projects are going to plunge the country into a national debt only comparable to that of America. A few already rich contractors are going to get richer, Iraqi workers are going to be given a pittance and the unemployed Iraqi public can stand on the sidelines and look at the glamorous buildings being built by foreign companies.

I always say this war is about oil. It is. But it is also about huge corporations that are going to make billions off of reconstructing what was damaged during this war. Can you say Haliburton? (Which, by the way, got the very first contracts to replace the damaged oil infrastructure and put out ‘oil fires’ way back in April).
 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
26. Seems like we have swept so much dirt under the rug,
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 01:20 AM
Dec 2015

that it is now just a scrap of cloth sitting atop a very ugly mountain.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
31. Thank you so much for posting this here
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:08 AM
Dec 2015

I am new this year, so the history of DU is something I don't know. How gut wrenching to read these passages.


This is why the War votes absolutely suck. Are we safer? Why is our safety paramount over other individuals around the globe. I hate our foreign policy. Hate it.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
33. It's also good to read Salam Pax
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:28 AM
Dec 2015

His blogs are still up until 2009:

https://salampax.wordpress.com/

There's a bit about him here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=salam+pax&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

There's a picture at his Twitter page:

https://twitter.com/salam

Salam Pax is the pseudonym of Salam Abdulmunem, aka Salam al-Janabi, under which he became the "most famous blogger in the world" during and after the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Wikipedia
Born: 1973, Baghdad, Iraq
Books: The Baghdad blog, Salam Pax: The Clandestine Diary of an Ordinary Iraqi
Movies: Baghdad Blogger
Education: University of Baghdad, Vienna International School, City University London

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
34. Thank you, I remember reading all of the posts here about Riverbend's blog.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 04:30 AM
Dec 2015

How awful that after everything she went through she didn't find peace.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
36. Thanks for this post "MF"--
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 12:02 PM
Dec 2015

brings back memories that need to be refreshed. I sometimes feel memories of that time are being wiped out slowly but surely as new atrocities bring more war and the cries of "Terra, Terra, Terra--be Afraid" are renewed.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
37. Exactly.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 01:42 PM
Dec 2015

I cannot forgive our country is so nonchalant at killing people because we feel a tremor of fear. We have no idea what real fear and terror feels like.



We have first world priviledge.

This is why Bernie is my candidate. He focuses not only on income equality, he focuses on the environment and war as well. He leads the pack on all three. It is mind boggling how others cannot see this and embrace it.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
38. The atmosphere of fear is building again.
Sun Dec 6, 2015, 02:38 PM
Dec 2015

Next comes the fear of speaking out like the pre-Iraq years.

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