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applegrove

(118,642 posts)
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:13 AM Dec 2015

America Is Sitting On A Powder Keg

America Is Sitting On A Powder Keg

by Egberto Willies at the Daily Kos

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/12/6/1456404/-America-is-sitting-on-a-powder-keg

"SNIP............

America is currently sitting on a powder keg, and it’s filled with a substance much more potent than gun powder. The destruction effected by a normal powder keg is localized and can be contained. A powder keg filled with an intangible substance isn't containable.

What is that intangible substance? Division, sewn with hate and violence.

Who is filling this powder keg? The answer is there for everyone to see: America’s right wing leaders are the verifiable culprits. No more false equivalencies. It’s time the right wing’s actions are not only called out, but tackled head-on.

First, it’s necessary to understand the pathology of the right wing’s leaders. Not only are they very intelligent, but they know exactly what they’re doing. They understand that the policies they support are anathema to a society with a vibrant middle-class. They know that an educated populace is a clear and present danger to their existence. They know that an educated population will find their existence untenable. But they also know that one's primitive fear sensors, those sensors meant to maintain life itself, are much more powerful than educated and calculated logic. Hence, the right wing’s modus operandi.



..............SNIP"
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America Is Sitting On A Powder Keg (Original Post) applegrove Dec 2015 OP
when you open your doors, generously bring people in from all over the world patsimp Dec 2015 #1
And you don't think that inequality in the Middle East doesn't affect the desire to die in a death applegrove Dec 2015 #2
the people who did the killing in Paris, Boston, and California were not from the middle east. patsimp Dec 2015 #4
But Farook told his father he hated Israel and wanted ISIS to win. Point is there is a hunger out applegrove Dec 2015 #6
the hate farooq had for Israel is not defensible in any fashion patsimp Dec 2015 #12
I'm not defending him. I'm trying not to make it worse than it already is. Which you are doing. applegrove Dec 2015 #13
No i'm actually pointing out cold hard reality and hoping to save innocent patsimp Dec 2015 #17
I don't want people slaughtered for any reason. Trump will insite some Republicans to kill. He will applegrove Dec 2015 #18
A map of mass shootings..... CanadianComrade Dec 2015 #5
Much as has happened to Dylan Roof and Robert Dear. LanternWaste Dec 2015 #16
Yup. Divide & Conquer seem to be 2naSalit Dec 2015 #3
Of course. rusty quoin Dec 2015 #7
We know. Aerows Dec 2015 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Marty McGraw Dec 2015 #9
. . . hifiguy Dec 2015 #15
Not everything is the right wing's fault Democat Dec 2015 #10
You have to ask who the right wing are emulating. They are applegrove Dec 2015 #11
"...and it’s filled with a substance much more potent than gun powder." Iggo Dec 2015 #14

patsimp

(915 posts)
1. when you open your doors, generously bring people in from all over the world
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:17 AM
Dec 2015

and support religious freedom, and then all of a sudden they can become more religious and sadly radicalized, and then blow away innocent people on a routine basis, it is difficult not to want to defend the lives of loved ones.

the Boston Marathon was destroyed by cheaply made bombs. No amount of gun control will stop the radical islamists from fulfilling their mission of killing anyone that does not believe in their religion - which happens to be islam.

applegrove

(118,642 posts)
2. And you don't think that inequality in the Middle East doesn't affect the desire to die in a death
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:35 AM
Dec 2015

cult? The USA should vigorously be pushing proper income tax in countries in the middle east so that there is proper policing, proper schooling, proper regulations, no graft, proper upward mobility, proper equality, proper democracy and all. But the GOP will never allow that and are in fact modeling themselves on the Saudi Royal Family themselves and you on the Middle East. How do you like feeling squeezed so far? People on the right like you seem pretty angry to me right now. You have more in common with angry people in the middle east than you acknowledge.

patsimp

(915 posts)
4. the people who did the killing in Paris, Boston, and California were not from the middle east.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:05 AM
Dec 2015

Most of them were residents, citizens or refugees in the countries that were generous in opening their borders to them.

the innocent people slaughtered by their heinous crimes did nothing to cause the inequality in the middle east.

applegrove

(118,642 posts)
6. But Farook told his father he hated Israel and wanted ISIS to win. Point is there is a hunger out
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:36 AM
Dec 2015

there that jihad fills in the Middle East. And then followers follow cause it looks utopian and big and strong. Boston bombers used article in al Qaeda in the Saudi Peninsula to make their bomb. They are all related. And you who support the GOP are quickly going to be exactly like them. Poor, unhappy, stuck, with nothing but religion to sooth you and pretty soon only ideals of violence against your perceived enemies to give your anger a home. You are more like them than you think.

patsimp

(915 posts)
12. the hate farooq had for Israel is not defensible in any fashion
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 09:45 AM
Dec 2015

no amount of cooperation, or staying out of other people's affairs, will stop the hatred that the farooq's will have for Israel and anyone who is not muslim, or even the type of muslim that they tolerate.

patsimp

(915 posts)
17. No i'm actually pointing out cold hard reality and hoping to save innocent
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 12:45 PM
Dec 2015

people from getting slaughtered.

applegrove

(118,642 posts)
18. I don't want people slaughtered for any reason. Trump will insite some Republicans to kill. He will
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:22 PM
Dec 2015

insite some fundamentalist muslims to join terrorism in ISIS. He will have people hurt and killed all so that he can be president and rich people don't want to pay taxes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/06/us/politics/california-attack-has-us-rethinking-strategy-on-homegrown-terror.html?_r=1

"SNIP............

The death toll from jihadist terrorism on American soil since the Sept. 11 attacks — 45 people — is about the same as the 48 killed in terrorist attacks motivated by white supremacist and other right-wing extremist ideologies, according to New America, a research organization in Washington.

............SNIP"

CanadianComrade

(30 posts)
5. A map of mass shootings.....
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:29 AM
Dec 2015
https://mobile.twitter.com/khanoisseur/status/673674504095272960

The ones in red are Islamic terrorism. I'd say you should be more worried about the other terrorists instead, as the post suggests.
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
16. Much as has happened to Dylan Roof and Robert Dear.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:22 PM
Dec 2015

..."all of a sudden they can become more religious and sadly radicalized"

Much as has happened to Dylan Roof and Robert Dear and other religious adherents radicalized by a particular interpretation of their religious tenets.

Response to Aerows (Reply #8)

applegrove

(118,642 posts)
11. You have to ask who the right wing are emulating. They are
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 04:08 AM
Dec 2015

Last edited Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:40 AM - Edit history (3)

emulating the Saudi Royalty with their petro-empires of wealth. For sure the war in Iraq started ISIS. And it was also about a war that would pay for itself with oil. I think we know the GOP is not exporting a decent income tax around the world.. they certainly do not want to pay taxes themselves but fund (through charity at times) only institutions (like evangelical churches)and corporations that will make them more powerful. Exactly like the Saudis. Farook, like many Middle easterners, scapegoated Israel for all that is wrong in his world. And he felt all the humiliations of being muslim (in america, in europe and in the middle east). They have built a cult to make themselves mighty men, big men, in a world that does not see it.Because of inequality and a complete lack chances to built a life through hard work and merit in the middle east. No the GOP didn't cause that couple to become radicalized directly. They are both sick *****.But they sure as hell gave them the gun in easily acquired automatic weapons and now give ammunition to the angry in and from the middle east, with their Muslim bashing. They are increasing the chances of more attacks. Which serves their goal of getting their base to vote out of fear. All so the rich don't have to pay taxes and can take more power away from the US middle class. The Saudis play the same game and do it no better, no worse. There is trend on discussion boards as we speak to attack Muslims and other marginalized groups. It is no doubt an organized campaign. It is so bad that a few sites have stopped their forums/comments sections. All republican talking points. All used to make the GOP base all turn out in 2016. You would think that the great usa would be marshalling resources to fight the group they are at war with instead of regular americans on the internet trying to talk about the world. But i guess it is war the right wing is waging against connectedness that doesn't directly serve their needs. Was a time when the corporation only owned you during working hours. Now they control their base's free time and minds as well. No it will not end well. And the angry young men, be they jihadis or republicans, it doesn't matter who, will try and buy an assault weapon to shoot up some americans minding their own business. Will the GOP let them? It seems they will.

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
14. "...and it’s filled with a substance much more potent than gun powder."
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:12 PM
Dec 2015

Oh, don't kid yourself.

There's plenty of gun powder in that keg.

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