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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Ugliest American ever - Donald Trump says Fuck the Constitution
No entry for Muslims
I say Fuck this racist, treasonous ReTHUG scumbag
deathrind
(1,786 posts)Somehow does win the Presidency...
Words cannot adequately describe the damage that will follow in the wake of a trump administration.
Paladin
(28,276 posts)TeddyR
(2,493 posts)Wouldn't surprise me, but wonder what he said.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)The First Amendment to the US Constitution says: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
I suppose one could make the argument that there is a threat to national security. But that would beg a whole slew of lawsuits regarding constitutional questions applying to the Constitution and Congressional and Executive powers.
That's one reason why President Obama, Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton and Martin O'Malley, and yes even George W. Bush said it while he was President, and many others in the US are saying very clearly that the people who commit terrorist acts such as ISIS are not Muslim. They are not practicing the religion of Islam. They are a terrorist death cult. And that Muslim nations and others should condemn them as such.
TeddyR
(2,493 posts)Doesn't protect the right to immigrate to the US.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)over immigration, only over naturalization. When the government enacts immigration policies to further compelling foreign policy or economic goals the laws are upheld. If the government's motivation is hatred or nativism, courts apply a strict standard of scrutiny. If the government can accomplish similar goals in a less restrictive manner, the laws are defeated.
JCMach1
(27,574 posts)brettdale
(12,384 posts)about trumpy's press release.
JCMach1
(27,574 posts)'on CBS's Face The Nation, N.J. Gov. Chris Christie says that Donald Trump's endorsement of racial and religious profiling in terror invesigations goes too far. "We don't need to be profiling in order to be able to get the job done here."... http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/12/06/christie_responds_to_trump_we_dont_need_to_be_profiling_to_get_the_job_done.html
Here is a grab bag: http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/12/07/gop-rivals-condemn-donald-trumps-call-to-ban-muslim-entry-into-u-s/
I have the feeling though that the base is going to eat this up... seriously...
Bucky
(54,068 posts)You'd think he'd run out of room on the self-parody, but he's just getting started.
By the end of March he'll be gone, but the end of March can't come soon enough.
hill2016
(1,772 posts)have anything to say about immigration policy?
JCMach1
(27,574 posts)along with the Republican Congress were he elected.
A republican Congress and republican President could ban immigration from certain countries. I would be challenged in the courts and may or may not uphold the challenge.
The question of banning solely on the basis of religion is quite interesting.
Judges interpret the Constitution and review laws to determine whether they are Constitutional. There would be lawsuits.
Yet another reason why the appointment of federal judges and Supreme Court justices by the President (with the advice and consent of Congress) is such a critically important executive function.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)One has to look at case law regarding how the Constitution is interpreted. This type of thing is not unprecedented. We as a country have at various times prevented people from some countries from entering the United States. I'm not aware of us ever preventing anyone from entering solely on the basis of their religion. Perhaps others more knowledgable in this matter will chime in on it. I'd also guess there will be articles forthcoming on legal sites like justicia.com.
JCMach1
(27,574 posts)In order to keep admitting Xtian's ... they would probably still be able to apply for asylum (i.e. not formal immigration). That way the Xtians could work around the quota system.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)No, seriously, I have.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Wow, malaise!
"The UGLIEST American."
spanone
(135,884 posts)there appears to be NO ONE countering this man. this is frightening.