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another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 05:56 PM Dec 2015

Iraq says: "We've had enough of your 'help' already."

In response to the U.S. military's offer to give Iraq Apache attack helicopters and accompanying advisers to assist them in liberating Ramadi, the capital of Anbar province, Iraqi government officials have declined, sighting negative impact yet more American military presence would have on the people of Iraq. Though the rejection was couched in diplomatic language, there is little doubt the sentiment behind it is one of, "No thanks, you've done enough damage."




AH 64D "Apache" attack helicopter flies over Iraq.


Thanks But No Thanks: Iraq Rejects US Attack Helicopters in Ramadi Fight


The Pentagon indicated that the US would be willing to supply Iraq with attack helicopters to help combat terrorism, but the Iraqi government has respectfully declined the offer. Last week, the US announced plans to give the Iraqi Army a fleet of Apache attack helicopters to be used in Baghdad’s fight against Daesh, also known as ISIL/the Islamic State.

The United States is prepared to assist the Iraqi Army with additional unique capabilities to help them finish the job, including attack helicopters and accompanying advisers, if circumstances dictate and if requested by Prime Minister Abadi," US Defense Secretary Ashton Carter stated in an address before the Senate Armed Services Committee last week. But after a Wednesday meeting between US and Iraqi officials, Baghdad appears uninterested in the aircraft package.

(snip)

Earlier this month, the Iraqi government criticized a Pentagon plan to deploy additional troops to Iraq, stressing that an increased American presence could only harm Baghdad’s anti-terror effort.

"First, it will lead to a split among Iraqis, and so the division of their positions in fighting Daesh," Ammar Tu’ma, Iraqi lawmaker and leader of the Al-Fadhila Party, told Sputnik. "Second, it will empower the terrorist organizations – the number of young people in their ranks will increase. The young people will fight foreign forces, [as] invaders on their lands. Hence, I think that [such a decision] would bring more problems than solutions."

(snip)



Read more at: http://sputniknews.com/us/20151217/1031929858/iraq-rejects-us-helicopters.html


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Iraq says: "We've had enough of your 'help' already." (Original Post) another_liberal Dec 2015 OP
Good. Now we should completely leave. yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #1
But then our generals won't be able to live in palaces, like monarchs . . . another_liberal Dec 2015 #9
excellent let's leave - we fell all over ourselves getting in we can march out saturnsring Dec 2015 #2
"And don't let the champagne cork hit you on the ass. . ." another_liberal Dec 2015 #11
Yep... deathrind Dec 2015 #3
Grandchildren of today's Iraqis . . . another_liberal Dec 2015 #10
But Hillary Clinton says: delrem Dec 2015 #4
I forgot about that horrible quote from Hillary: cpwm17 Dec 2015 #6
And after all we've done to them . . . another_liberal Dec 2015 #7
I can't help but sneer ronnie624 Dec 2015 #20
How about: We Came, We Saw and We Bombed it. Something like 1 million dead and/or injured? libdem4life Dec 2015 #5
It's hard to find any good colonial subjects these days . . . another_liberal Dec 2015 #8
Indeed. But we're not giving up. Just a bit short of cash for the occupation part. Who knew it was libdem4life Dec 2015 #12
Too right! another_liberal Dec 2015 #13
The best thing we could do for the middle east is leave them the fuck alone. Scuba Dec 2015 #14
Then the USA needs to get out of that country ASAP. bigwillq Dec 2015 #15
30+ Iraqi soldiers killed, 20 injured after US airstrike - Iraqi MP CJCRANE Dec 2015 #16
I saw that . . . another_liberal Dec 2015 #22
Similarly, Ukraine to Russia...nt SidDithers Dec 2015 #17
And Ukraine to US. n/t ronnie624 Dec 2015 #21
The MIC and Pentagon will have to cut their champagne budget. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #18
Trump thinks they owe us countingbluecars Dec 2015 #19
He lives in a fantasy world . . . another_liberal Dec 2015 #23
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
1. Good. Now we should completely leave.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 06:00 PM
Dec 2015

It's bad enough we went but when they say go. Let's go. We can spend our money here.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
9. But then our generals won't be able to live in palaces, like monarchs . . .
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:24 PM
Dec 2015

And they won't be able to exercise their life-and-death power over thousands of troops (unless, of course, we find them another war to exploit).

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
11. "And don't let the champagne cork hit you on the ass. . ."
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:38 PM
Dec 2015

"As you're going out the door."

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
10. Grandchildren of today's Iraqis . . .
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:30 PM
Dec 2015

Will curse the name of our country, and crave revenge for the wrongs we did their families.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
4. But Hillary Clinton says:
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 06:14 PM
Dec 2015

"we have to make clear to the Iraqis that they have been given the greatest gift that a human being can give another human being – the gift of freedom. And it is up to them to decide how they will use that precious gift that has been paid for with the blood and sacrifice and treasure of the United States of America."

What a bunch of ungrateful wretches!!
Just like those Libyans, Syrians, and ... oh, I just can't wait for when she's CiC!!

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
7. And after all we've done to them . . .
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:15 PM
Dec 2015

I bet the ingrates don't even have a going-away party for us.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
20. I can't help but sneer
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:29 PM
Dec 2015

when I hear that sort of bizarro-world crap coming from US political leaders. US citizens, for the most part, exist in a false reality, absolutely incapable of drawing rational conclusions about world events.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
5. How about: We Came, We Saw and We Bombed it. Something like 1 million dead and/or injured?
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 06:43 PM
Dec 2015

Imagine, the ingrates, they were supposed to be there with flowers, too, and they messed that up.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
12. Indeed. But we're not giving up. Just a bit short of cash for the occupation part. Who knew it was
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:39 PM
Dec 2015

so expensive to keep the ungrateful subjects in line.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
13. Too right!
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:47 PM
Dec 2015

Surely they'll learn to love democracy and freedom if we bomb them more and occupy their county longer.


(sarcasm)

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
15. Then the USA needs to get out of that country ASAP.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:29 AM
Dec 2015

And never go back. Too much lives, money and resources wasted already.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
16. 30+ Iraqi soldiers killed, 20 injured after US airstrike - Iraqi MP
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:35 AM
Dec 2015
More than 30 Iraqi soldiers have been killed and 20 more injured in an airstrike carried out by the US military, an Iraqi said in a statement cited by Sputnik.

“30 Iraqi servicemen from the 55th brigade of the Iraqi Army have been killed and 20 injured after an airstrike carried out by US aviation in the town of Al-Naimiya, Fallujah province,” Hakim al-Zamili, the head of the Parliamentary Security and Defense Committee, said in a statement cited by Sputnik.

The death toll may rise as many Iraqi soldiers were heavily injured in the attack, the official said.

Al-Zamili said he called upon the Iraqi prime minister “to carry out an immediate investigation into the airstrike on the 55th brigade that earlier achieved success in battling” Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) militants.


https://www.rt.com/news/326420-iraq-us-air-strike/
 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
22. I saw that . . .
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:17 AM
Dec 2015

It sure won't help matters a bit.

If we knew who we were hitting it is criminal. If we did not know who we were hitting, it is still nearly as bad.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
23. He lives in a fantasy world . . .
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:24 AM
Dec 2015

If he is elected, and really acts on his many threats, most of his extremely brief Presidency will be spent in a fall-out shelter.

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