The Militia HAS Made An Implied Threat. And The Act Like They Now Own The Site.

[TheMastersNemesis]

These militia have said they want no violence. However they have pretty much made it clear that they will resist if there is ANY interference with them and their occupation of the site. It can be assumed that they would not throw rocks if confronted. And their rhetoric makes it clear that ALL authorities dare not show up.

Their present makes it necessary to keep the sanctuary closed to the public. The sanctuary may be very remote but it is a symbol of active resistance and they have called for others to support them and the idea of taking public property for THEIR own use.

What if they had taken a site like the Petrified Forest and said that local should be able to use it as they like even taking the petrified wood and selling it locally? Other federal land is vulnerable to this same maybe.

At some point the situation will have to be addressed and it may not be pretty. It appears they want a Ruby Ridge or Waco situation as a call to arms.

[Lee-Lee]

1. The place is always closed over the winter anyway

Let them freeze for a few months. Cut off access in and out, jam any electronic signals to keep them from getting on social media or seeing any news, and let them freeze and be bored to death.

[Vinca]

3. If they happen to survive, arrest them on their way out of town.

[Kingofalldems]

6. No, remove them from federal property.

By force if necessary.

[pintobean]

9. Why is federal property sacred ground

and city and state property isn't?

[Kingofalldems]

10. If they happen to be on state property--remove them

by force if necessary.

There.

[pintobean]

11. Would the same apply to occupiers and BLM protesters?

I agree with you, but uniform enforcement isn't very popular here.

[Kingofalldems]

14. Occupiers and BLM protesters are not armed to the teeth.

[pintobean]

16. But, they are legally armed, are they not?

I thought your issue was with the occupation.

[Kingofalldems]

18. I get it. You want to mess with me.

Find something else to do.

[snooper2]

21. That wasn't very nice, let pinto go on! sub-thread just got started!

LOL

[pintobean]

24. Sub-thread could use a dumb

irrelevant video. Whatcha got?

Edit - never mind, it's no longer needed.

[LanternWaste]

25. Your irascible and choleric hobgoblin mention by Emerson is also shared by little statesmen.

Your irascible and choleric hobgoblin mention by Emerson is also shared by little statesmen.

[chalmers]

29. Actually no they aren't

They are trespassing on Federal land. They are committing this act while armed which is also a felony.

[randys1]

26. When did OWS or BLM use guns and threaten violence against the government? The officials

of the organizations?

Not one lone loud mouth who would have been instantly denounced.

Answer is never, none.

BLM and OWS were and are righteous, wonderful movements and some folks hate them and I know why.

[Blues Heron]

8. "Hours The Refuge is open each day from sunrise to sunset."

from their website. Open year round.

[Lee-Lee]

13. That the entire refuge- the visitors center and buildings are closed for the winter.

And evidently they are letting anyone and everyone mingle among them,

I think its funny that LE hasn't even publicly shown up yet. That has to be throwing them all off because they haven't gotten any of the response they wanted.

At the same time I am sure that there are unseen assets who are figuring out what radios frequencies they are using, listening to those, listening to cell phones and mapping all sorts of valuable intel during the period when everyone thinks they are not doing anything.

[Logical]

12. And you just make the next group want to do it again....

Give them 2 week notice and then remove them and send them to prison.

[Katashi_itto]

20. Fire self-deploying Razorwire cannisters into the area so they can't get out. Then drop books on

the Donner Party on them, after all we want them to be entertained.

Drop a single fifty pound bag of potatoes on them once every two weeks -we don't want them to totally starve; just be very very uncomfortable.
Set up ear shattering music 24/7 Muslim Devotional Chants would be best.
Set up communication jammers and then wait for Spring.
Also hand them bill's for the use of Federal Property as they crawl out.

Oh, and then Arrest them.

[Bluenorthwest]

23. No, it has reduced winter hours but it is not closed all winter.

nt

[liberal N proud]

2. If there is any utility service to the site, cut it off.

Why should the government pay for utilities?
Water
Electricity
Gas

By the time spring comes, they will be needing to get back to the ranch.

Speaking of the ranch, who is tending their livestock while they are playing terrorist?

[jberryhill]

4. I'm thinking of taking over one

Obviously, I have misunderstood how these wildlife refuges work.

They are apparently there for "whatever", and according to the Constitution I'm entitled to go take one over for whatever purpose I want.

[pinboy3niner]

7. Now THAT is truly scary!

[randys1]

27. I think the law is if you are a white male con, you are entitled to any govt land anywhere anytime

BTW, most of these types are using our lands and paying very little for what they gain from using them.

Personally, I would like to double federal lands overnight.

As in increase the amount of land owned by the feds by doubling the amount.

[monmouth4]

5. What they're really annoyed about is they are being mocked and/or ignored..nt

[Nay]

17. I'm glad they are being mocked, but I hope the Feds aren't really ignoring

them. This is the second time they have pulled a militia stunt; the next time, they may be bold enough to do something that will truly require a response, and it'll get ugly. Face it, no one else is allowed to take over Fed property and get ignored. Imagine if homeless people decided to shelter there -- shit, they'd be dragged out in 24 hours. I know the Feds don't want martyrs among these gun-humping assholes, but jeezus. There really is more at stake here than a closed bird sanctuary.

[Generic Other]

15. I think we should surround them with a fence

and call it a FEMA camp. Send some black helicopters to monitor.

[ribrepin]

32. Now that's good idea!

Bet they can't wait to get out. On second thought, they would probably come out shooting.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

19. "No justice. No peace" is also an implied threat.

[MohRokTah]

22. "We will use force against those who attempt to remove us" is NOT and "implied" threat.

It is a DIRECT threat when the person making it is armed with firearms.

[TheMastersNemesis]

31. Your Take Is More Correct

[randys1]

28. They think they want a Ruby or Waco deal, but the instant the bullets started flying they

would do anything to call it off.

The threat is not implied, it is a direct threat that would guarantee the death or long time imprisonment if a BLM supporter did this

[Odin2005]

30. If they were black or brown they would have been all killed by drone strike by now.