The Bundys in Oregon "sleepover" has escalated

[SHRED]

Why is the power still in to the building?
This is what happens when laws are not enforced.

Bundy militia standoff escalates when another heavily-armed group arrives to provide ‘security’



There may be more drama afoot at the Bundy militia standoff at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

In a moment of irony, a new group of armed miltiamen has arrived at the standoff in Harney County, Oregon, and the ones that have been there since last Saturday say their presence is unwanted.

More...
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/bundy-militia-standoff-escalates-when-another-heavily-armed-group-arrives-to-provide-security/

[cheapdate]

1. "Why is the power still on?" I'd like to know that as well. n/t

[cwydro]

4. I thought someone posted the other day that they cut the power.

Guess not.

[SCantiGOP]

17. It was stated

On one of the news channel web sites last week, Thursday I think, that some law enforcement source had said they planned to cut the power and disrupt communications.

[libodem]

2. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

"And another thing about the negro"....you know a sentence starting out like that can't end well.

[cheapdate]

34. Indeed.

[Deny and Shred]

39. Its not because they are white.

Plenty of white kids have been maced at point blank range on campus. Plenty of white people were clobbered in OWS.

Its because those in Oregon are right-wingers. The state apparatus exists to stifle left-wing activity only. Right-wing protest gets a pass.

[SHRED]

49. I whipped this one out for you

[merrily]

52. IMO, both are at play. Rightists tend to be white. No coincidence.

[Cassiopeia]

3. Why?

Why is the power still on?

Why are they allowed to come and go as they please?

Why are they being offered a free pass to leave without charges?

W T F!

[Quixote1818]

20. Because the Feds plan to ignore them is working

Polls show most people aren't even aware they are there which is not what they wanted at all. The locals are starting to get more and more pissed off and eventually they will ask the Feds to intervene giving the Feds much better position to intervene without pissing off every militia group in the country and possibly giving us another situation like we saw in Oklahoma City when the Federal building was blown up. These militia groups are just a nuisance now but if we get another Waco or Ruby Ridge then we could see real shit popping up all over the country.

Give it some time and watch the local ranchers anger grow to where that is the main story, then the Feds will be in a much better position to do something without blowback.

[zeemike]

25. So basically what you are saying is intimidation works.

And law enforcement and the feds are intimidated by what these nut jobs might do if they treat the Bundy clan badly.

I remember the same excuses when it was the Bundy ranch standoff...and we were told that they would not get away with it and in time justice would be done...well it was not, and here we are again.

Same shit and same excuses.

[Tumbulu]

31. Yes, I agree, and why were they ever charged with anything

after that "stunt"? They should all be in prison for that, and because they did not go to prison, here we are again.

[Quixote1818]

33. Unfortunatly yes when they are white. It's a PR war right now and Bundy is slowly losing

because the Feds have been letting them do what they want. The Polls show the feds are getting good reviews on this but everyone knows the longer they stay the less welcome they are. We go in full force now and it would be a major PR disaster for Obama. You think Waco was bad? Multiply that by 100! The FBI knows things need to fester a lot more between the locals and the idiots before the Feds have the American people behind them to go in with force. I wish it were different but it's not. If Trump were President he could probably get away with going in with Force but Dems don't have that luxury.

[easttexaslefty]

35. Exactly this

It is a PR war & one the right is loosing.

[zeemike]

42. I don't buy it.

If they wanted to win this the first thing they would have done is cut the power off and block all the access. And they would not have sent out a delegation to shake their hands and offer them free passage out.

If they had cut the power off they would be out of there by now...cold and hunger would make them think about staying.

No they want this to continue because the PTB want that public land and the Bundy Boys will help them get it.
And they don't give a shit about the polls...in fact they want it to be in our faces.
What can we do about it?...nothing but what a co dependent to an abuser does...make excuses for them.

[Gore1FL]

23. In some ways, this might be the most effective way to deal with them.

They are heavily armed and looking for a stand off. Leaving them to run amok to in-fight and generally come across as embarrassing dumb-asses open to massive public disdain and ridicule has been largely successful.

Don't get me wrong. I hope they actually make arrests this time, once they all leave, dejected and divided. It was a mistake not to arrest the morons in 2014 after they broke camp.

[Cassiopeia]

38. I'm not asking about a show of force to force them out.

However it seems that it should he simple enough to set up a safe perimeter and simply box them in. Anyone trying to come or go is simply arrested.

[daleanime]

51. +1

[easttexaslefty]

5. Good.

Maybe theyll be a shoot out between the nut job factions we'll be rid of the whole bunch.

[arcane1]

6. Desotroying themselves with infighting would also discredit them completely, instead of martyring.

Maybe that's the plan?

[easttexaslefty]

19. I think this is the smartest thing.

Not the fair thing but the SMART thing.

[lpbk2713]

7. I guess I must oversimplify things.

But if these people are breaking the law, why aren't they being arrested?

Why aren't they treated like criminals?

[Bettie]

21. DUH

They're white dudes.

Ryan and his R buddies in the house are probably writing legislation right now to cede all Federal lands to whichever white dudes demand them.

[Gore1FL]

29. The risk right now is too high.

Once they leave the arrests will not require an assault. Hopefully, instead of it being another Rallying cry, it will go down as a laughingstock.

That said, I can't believe there were no arrests in 2014 (that I am aware of), and it worries me that none will be made this time, either. I remain hopeful.

[rurallib]

8. Meanwhile the administration conducts raids on immigrant families

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141309038

[SHRED]

13. Ugh

[Baitball Blogger]

9. Who knows? Maybe the Feds have been infiltrated?

[uponit7771]

10. +1 on the pic

[SHRED]

11. Thanks...I made that meme

I just can't believe they are not arrested and the power is still on.

[Rex]

12. Must be nice to be treated with a warm smile and handshake.

White supremacy on display...but make SURE we imprison all those pot smokers...because America knows what is important!

[Odin2005]

14. I'm starting to think somebody in authority over there is protecting them.

That is the only reason I can think of that they are being treated with kids gloves.

[Lucky Luciano]

15. When can we just shoot them? They are getting annoying.

[Rex]

18. Yeah let us not even think about arresting them for breaking the law, it means a lot

to the kids at home to learn this lessons early on in life. Two sets of laws and if your skin color and political party is the RIGHT one you are immune!

But yeah what you said.

[Tipperary]

16. I love that patch!

Perfect!

[jalan48]

22. Maybe Obama wants to lure as many of them in as he can, then round them up.

That's the only strategy that makes sense at this point.

[cantbeserious]

28. Yes - The Militiamen Parade Around On TV - This Blows Their Anonymity

Making them all the easier to round up by Federal Agents.

What is the old phrase - stupid is as stupid does.

[Volaris]

24. Hahahaha

This the Echo Chamber amplifying itself beyond tolerable levels for those 'first inside'.

Fuck Them.

that is all.

[maggies farm]

26. Feeling occupied?

Good baby jesus! The occupiers are asking other occupiers to stop occupying!!!!

“We don’t need that. We don’t want it and we’re asking you to leave,” Todd MacFarlane, an attorney mediating the dispute on behalf of the Bundys, told reporters Saturday.

We can only hope that the Harney County Safety meeting requests for the Pacific Patriot Network to bring 'em in.
http://video-embed.oregonlive.com/services/player/bcpid2436822742001?bctid=4692669666001&bckey=AQ~~,AAAAPLpuSqE~,a1DdoZJH5WT7C8Y068BNUzNkGsOfv-0l

Please write and request: Harney County Committee of Safety (For the people, by the people) Please request Pacific Patriot Network peacefully apprehend The Citizens for Constitutional Freedom and bring them to Harney County Courthouse for arrest and booking.

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http://www.hccommitteeofsafety.org
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[abelenkpe]

27. If these guys were occupying a privately owned

Building would the authorities treat them the same? I don't understand why they've not been arrested. There are heavily armed lunatics occupying a federal building. How is this still going on?

[cantbeserious]

30. The Goal Is A Shootout - Ruby Ridge And Waco Style

eom

[Tarc]

32. I would be all for it, to be honest

This has gone on long enough.

[easttexaslefty]

36. And how many more converts would that make?

Sure, it would be personally satisfing but how do terrorists get converts? By making themselves look like martyrs.

[Jake Stern]

40. Oh bullshit.

The only "converts" action against these guys create are folks who already sympathize with the cause.

The time for kid gloves has come and gone. In fact the time for kid gloves came and went at the Bundy ranch.

It's beautiful you have all the time in the world to wait out insurrectionists but my patience has worn thin along with the patience of others. Everyday we let them keep on keeping on is another victory for them and another spit in the face of those who were brutally put down while protesting for real causes.

Worse still is it's the government hawking it.

Every face pepper sprayed while clearing OWS encampments. . . . HAAAAAAAWK. . .Ptttft

Every skull cracked while putting down a BLM protest. . . . HAAAAAAAWK. . .Ptttft

Every activist trussed like a turkey while protesting polluters. . . . HAAAAAAAWK. . .Ptttft

Every antiwar protester's head smashed into pavement. . . . HAAAAAAAWK. . .Ptttft

The government doesn't look altruistic, it looks weak. Guess what happens to someone who shows weakness to bullies? They get their asses handed to them OVER and OVER again until they finally fight back.

Honestly I don't believe for a second that government will do jack to these wackos. No arrests, no trials, no raids. Bupkis. The government will back off like nothing ever happened, let 'em divvy up the land and people like you will cheer. While you're cheering our (the American people's) totally bloodless ass kicking and tail tucking they're busy figuring out which place they want to take next. And the one after that. And the one after that.

[easttexaslefty]

44. I've been brutely put down by peacefully protesting

Twice as a mater of fact.
Got to sue them once. Look it up. Marie Pugh ( that's me )
Verses crawford tx. WE won.
The government is being smart in this particular situation.
In many ways.
Don't know YOUR story but mine stretched out over a lifetime tells me the government is played this smart for once.

[easttexaslefty]

46. Honey, I've never "tucked tail"

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Trust me. Ive seen Houston cops at ExxonMobil protest drag protesters down the street by their hair. Civil liberties sued the cops that time. Think we won.
Make those fuckers act like the asshole they are. Smart thing to do. We win when we do. I know from 30 of experience on the street.
You?

[easttexaslefty]

47. You dont sound like you really have a clue

How this shit works. Get thee out on the street and observe grasshopper
Maybe you'll be able to catch up.

[easttexaslefty]

48. Your right. It doesn't look altruistic. It looks SMART

Doesn't look like weakness. It looks like a game of chess.
That's the way these things go.
You've must never been involved in protests or you would understand the game. You need more experience and less time to speculate.

[janlyn]

37. From what I have gathered

it appears this new group thinks Ammon and his cohorts are stupid enough to start a shoot out with the feds. The PPN states that they are there to prevent either side from escalating this thing, and from what I can ascertain, they were asked by locals to come. No wonder Ammon and his bunch don't want them there. It's an unspoken insult to vanilla ISIS! Grab some popcorn and settle in for the show folks!!!

[L. Coyote]

41. There next stop was to surround the Harney County courthouse with armed men.

[center] More here: Heavily armed 'security detail' shows up at Oregon standoff encampment

[pinboy3niner]

43. OR Militia Standoff Surrounded By Heavily Armed Pacific Patriot Network — Ammon Bundy ‘Blindsided'

January 9, 2016
Patrick Frye


The Oregon militia standoff continues to this day, with Ammon Bundy’s group continuing to occupy parts of Malheur National Wildlife Refuge and the Harney County Courthouse. Without warning, heavily armed members of the Pacific Patriot Network surrounded the encampments with their convoys. The Pacific Patriot Network is an umbrella group for Oregon militias, and they say they have set themselves between the Bundy Randy group and the U.S. federal government’s agents in order to work out a peaceful resolution to the Oregon standoff.


In a related report by the Inquisitr, Bundy’s Oregon militia initially told reporters they had enough food and supplies to carry on the standoff for years, but they are now saying they are willing to accept donations in order to help them.

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Now, the other Oregon militia groups are directly intervening in Ammon Bundy’s standoff. A convoy of heavily armed men surrounded the federal courthouse and also sent more men to the wildlife refuge. The Pacific Patriot Network said they were going to act as a “neutral party,” but they also brought many men armed with rifles.

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“Ammon felt blindsided,” Macfarlane said. “This was not a welcome development. We are trying to de-escalate here – then boom, they all show up.”


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http://www.inquisitr.com/2694777/oregon-militia-standoff-surrounded-by-heavily-armed-pacific-patriot-network-ammon-bundy-blindsided/

[L. Coyote]

45. Can the Burns airport handle the Trump jet?

Seems like we are still missing one of the rodeo clowns.

[Scurrilous]

50. Time to airdrop in a barrel of Bud.

Whacked-out weaponized white dudes wandering loose in the wild needs only a bit of booze added to the mix for things to become epically un-Mormon.

Any outdoor sportsman knows what I mean...

Also toss in this:



Only one. Let them fight over it.