Upset GOP Donors Wonder If They Wasted Their Money

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Upset GOP Donors Wonder If They Wasted Their Money

https://politicalwire.com/2016/01/13/upset-gop-donors-wonder-if-they-wasted-their-money/

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“Major GOP donors and fundraisers are wondering whether they’re wasting their money on super-PACs,” The Hill reports.

“They say they’re not ready to abandon the super-PACs, but they’re starting to look for ways to make them more effective during a presidential cycle that has challenged conventions about how to spend political donations.”

“The cautionary tale cited by nearly every donor or fundraiser interviewed on or off the record has been Bush. He has fallen in polls despite the more than $50 million already spent on his behalf by the group Right to Rise, which far outraised every other super-PAC with its mid-year haul of $103 million.”



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[Kelvin Mace]

1. Let me check my Washington Consultant

[Scarsdale]

57. Candidates

They have lots of money, but not a single candidate worth wasting it on!! No intelligent, thoughtful compassionate contenders in the entire group. They look for candidates who are easily manipulated like Dumbya. $carah PayMe would have been their ideal. In the last few elections they had one candidates who appeared SANE. John Huntsman, and look what happened to him.They drive away intelligent candidates, but the dumb supporters who vote for them keep hanging around.

[shawn703]

2. Where's that world's smallest violin? I have a sad song I want to play for them.

Oh, here it is.

[Feeling the Bern]

39. Just make sure it's out of tune. Why give them a sad song in pleasant perfect pitch

oh, and make sure the rosin is warped too.

[houston16revival]

3. Gee, and I thought

money was speech.

Nice try, Chief Justice John Roberts!

[Ed Suspicious]

25. It is. What it isn't, necessarily, is compelling speech.

It works great to persuade politicians. To move voters . . . not so much.

[WillyT]

4. More Here:

Upset Republican donors: Have we wasted our money?
By Jonathan Swan - TheHill
01/13/16 06:00 AM EST

Link: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/265647-upset-gop-donors-have-we-wasted-our-money

[certainot]

33. the haley attack on limbaugh/trump addressed the problem

as long as limbaugh disses bush he/they can't do shit for bush- all that money is wasted.

trump and cruz are limbaugh's favs until he stops making excuses for one or the other, and that more than anything is why they lead. he and many of his local and national wannabes support trump and cruz, who best channel 25 years of teabaggerist alternate reality with the kind of i'm never wrong royal certitude that makes the authoritarians swoon.

nikki haley attacked the root of the problem, primarily talk radio's loud voices of anger, for the GOP establishment. guys like rove recognize the problem, but most of the MSM and dem analysts don't have a clue- talk radio is a foreign substance to them.

on a purely monetary basis, if the GOP, or dem party, would pay an average of $1000 for an hour for a political infomercial/advertisement, those 1200 republican radio stations with an average of 15 hours of national and local pro republican/anti-dem programming are worth more than 4BIL / year.

they still can't come right out and attack limbaugh and the other few hundred talk radio gods in public because that propaganda operation is crucial to their chances in ALL other elections

[mdbl]

40. We've been wastiing our money on repuglicans in congress for decades.

So what else is new?

[modrepub]

5. Fools and their $ are soon parted

Put simply, be wary of people wearing expensive cloths and pushing slick marketing pitches.

[gratuitous]

6. The irritating thing is how those fools ever got together with money in the first place

Now that the super PAC method of corrupting the political system hasn't worked out quite the way they wanted it to, you have to figure that these charlatans will start casting about for some other way to buy and sell the country because the playing field isn't tilted heavily enough in their favor.

[Warpy]

26. Most of them inherited it

from upper middle class scions of car dealership and insurance office owners to the lower tier of multimillionaires and even a few true plutocrats like Art Pope.

[Art_from_Ark]

31. So they're the American version of Upper Class Twits

[mdbl]

41. LOL couldn't have said it better

[TIME TO PANIC]

53. +1

Ha Ha, Classic!

[vinny9698]

7. There is a cottage industry in scamming rich donors in to donating to these PACs

Most of the money goes to consultants and their cronies. The founders of the PACs get big salaries and then spend it on their own businesses, printing, mass media, TV production and so on.
Look at Ben Carson's fund raising 90% goes into paying for the PAC.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/10/15/ben-carson-spent-more-than-two-thirds-of-his-third-quarter-haul/

In all, Mr. Carson directed $11 million of the $14 million he spent in the third quarter to fundraising costs.
The campaign spent $1.4 million to pay staffers and outside consultants in the third quarter. Second-quarter filings showed that Mr. Carson’s campaign manager received a monthly salary of $17,500, equivalent to $210,000 a year.

[Cartoonist]

20. Job creators

Where do I apply?

[Scarsdale]

32. Rove

He becam a millionaire by giving his opinions and pulling dirty tricks. Vile person. Bloated arse should be banned from TV for being so porky and repulsive. $carah PayMe has a Pac which supports her entire family!! Very little went to support candidates, which is the reason for having a Pac, isn't it? Jeb! has the personality of a wrung out dishrag, who would back him if he was not named Bush? Guess the name does not carry much weight after the last disasterous Bush held office.

[Tab]

45. Well, technically, Ben Carson couldn't direct the pac

Are you saying he fundraised for his PAC? Or that his regular fundraising went into campaign activities, which would be the point?

Remember, PACs are sad people too.

[TeamPooka]

8. haha

[DaveT]

9. Citizens United vs The Law of Diminishing Returns

In addition to the blatant featherbedding on the various "campaigns," the idea that Money = Speech has another flaw from the point of view of a plutocrat. As the net amount of people watching commercial television continues its decades long slide, TV stations in even numbered years fill up every single ad spot with political ads, eventually reaching a point of over-saturation and viewers zone out.



Increasing your budget by a factor of ten does not get you ten times the effective impressions. It might even work against you.


Hilarious to see them whine about wasting their money. The success of Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump so far also suggests that voters in both parties are making their decisions without much input from paid advertising.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

10. Tsk. Tsk. Very sad. Heartbreaking. Think of the children. Buying a government is hard work.

Politicians have raised their prices.

[applegrove]

19. It is like when women entered the workforce and mortgages went way up because buyers were then

duel income households.

[Orsino]

11. They really don't like paying middlemen.

Weakening campIgn finance laws to allow the PAC dodge didn't keep them happy for long. What they've always wanted is the ability to bribe their way out of trouble directly, and as cheaply as possible.

[Punx]

12. One can only hope.

That they would bankrupt themselves and have nothing to show for it would be an optimal outcome.

[Stallion]

13. Well At Least its Stimulating the Economy

has any study ever been done to detect the effect of campaign spending on the economy during a National Election. Especially, on the Republican side there appears to be an entire cottage industry designed to fleece rich people of their money-and not just campaign contribution

[Helen Borg]

14. No, no GOP donors, you need to give more!

Don't worry, just keep donating. I swear, it's not wasted money!

[closeupready]

15. I have to be honest that this makes me giggle.

[lunatica]

16. Who knew Super PACs were idiocrats too

[Pantagruelsmember]

17. Follow the money

And it takes you to major media outlets.
The major beneficiaries of tight elections and heavy spending are TV and internet , so when you question why anyone would run a ignorant or slanted news story about a candidate, ask if the bias is meant to keep the race competitive and generate ad spending. The answer is usually affirmative.

[azureblue]

18. IOW

they thought they could buy some GOP politicians, but what they paid for was a bucket of nuts.

[TrollBuster9090]

21. WHAT? They didn't get that message after they gave $80 million in 2012 to THIS dipshit..

...and ended up getting a great big GOOSE EGG for their money?

I like this. Exploding the right-wing myth that rich people are so much smarter than poor people right before their eyes.

[irisblue]

22. I hope so

asses

[Turbineguy]

23. They should come to South Florida

there are plenty of homeless people for them to feel good about.

[ChazInAz]

24. What did they expect?

The PAC donors want to fund a shiftless grifter to do their bidding. This is what shiftless grifters DO.

[silvershadow]

27. But, enough about the Koch's, et al. nt

[Marie Marie]

28. Any dollar wasted by the Koch Brothers on their losing candidates

is a dollar redirected toward my amusement.

[scottie55]

29. How Can They Lie More Effectively?

How can they fool more stupid Americans with their lies.

How can they convince people to vote against their families.

Always looking for ways to improve.

[DFW]

30. Gee, should we break the news to them gently?

Or should we rather wait for it to dawn upon them in due time, and watch them fall into depression slowly?

[WestMichRad]

34. Well, when you put lipstick on a pig..

....you still have a pig.

In their case, a very expensive pig.

[applegrove]

35. Hey all the lobbyists, PAC employees and grifters are just trying to make a buck. They don't feel

beholden to anybody but themselves. Ayn Rand would be proud of them.

[valerief]

36. When you back an asshole, you're an asshole. nt

[mythology]

37. Is the failure related more to the limitations of money

Or the fact that it's trying to sell people on another Bush? There is some serious baggage especially since he couldn't decide whether to embrace or run from his brother's legacy.

[AlbertCat]

38. Upset GOP Donors Wonder If They Wasted Their Money....

......Again!

[SmittynMo]

42. 103M? That's quite a number

Do yourselves a favor. There is a group that can/will help you. It's called Gambler's Anonymous.

I hear they have good results.

[spanone]

43. they should think of it as 'energizing the economy'

or, a fucking fool and his money.

[Chemisse]

44. Could it really be that you can't buy votes anymore?

That is the ONLY good thing about the rise of Trump - the way it says a big Fuck You to so many deserving recipients.

[silvershadow]

46. Meanwhile, back in reality...we all know they are wasting their money. nt

[davidpdx]

47. I read a similar article today about Bush's fundraisers waiting to jump ship

and that they would likely go to Rubio.

[ZX86]

48. When your business is selling shit sandwiches

Repeat customers are hard to come by. Sure you can get dumb ass Republicans to eat eat ten or twelve of them but even they start to notice funny after taste after a while.

[rpannier]

49. Wasted their money, not really

Just invested it poorly
Now, I am beginning a start up super pac 'CONPAC'
Just as the name implies: Conservative principles. My pac will promote all the virtues of free market capitalism. No regulation, opposition to any government regulation, etc
The money in CONPAC will be used as the Chair and the Board deem to making true, solid, goldy (i mean) godly principles are promoted.
Like free market, like less government oversite, running like a business where the board and chair decide how best to spend the money.

Trips to the U.K., Brazil, France, Japan and other important sites around the world (first class of course) to meet with other lie-mind... like-minded persons.
In case you're wondering if there isn't something shady going on.. It is CON pac

[bulloney]

50. It's taken them this long to figure it out?

[saltpoint]

51. That's an easy one.

Of course they did.

No matter which candidate they sent money to.

[Initech]

52. Buyer's remorse

[Warpy]

54. If they haven't yet realized the GOP has devolved into a racket

maybe this will start to get through to them.

[CobaltBlue]

55. More Money Than Brains

If I was one those parasitic wealthy Republican donors, who want to buy not just the party's politicians but also the party and the country and its elections, I would at least inform myself of the potential for that to happen with regard for which puppets to prop up.

[47of74]

56. Money can sometimes hide the fact that...

...a person has shit for brains. But not for long.

[catbyte]

58. Awww, poor, poor bagger billionaires...

[Akicita]

59. GOOD!

[Turbineguy]

60. Perhaps a better question:

Are there any republican candidates worth owning this time around?

[MariaThinks]

61. that irony would be delicious. So many imbecile republicans thought

they could defeat Obama and all democrats because of unlimited money - thanks to their cronies on the supreme court.

[houston16revival]

62. No, not wasted at all

I would say they have invested in their own re-awakening

It costs money to burst privilege and narcissism

Cleaning their financial clocks is money well spent indeed

[applegrove]

63. +100