Dear Bundy Gang

[libodem]

[safeinOhio]

1. Let open a no limit

cow season. That'd keep em busy back on the ranch.

[libodem]

10. We can't punish the poor cows

As much as I hate to see over grazing and land destruction, I think it's good anamal husbandry to truck your csttle back to the ranch for winter. That way they are fenced in and you have them in a herd so you can feed them hay all winter. Baby caves start being born in February when it's still freezing and sometimes they need to come in to get warmed up. Also with hefers you may have to go out and help pull the calf. Once in a while you may even need a vet to turn a calf, if they are breech..
I wouldntn't let a cow suffer just because I'm mad at those, ignorant, backwards, goat roper, religious fanatic, seditionists.

[Baitball Blogger]

2. So, here was I ready to come up with a snarky comment,

and look what I found on the internet. Have no idea how true any of it is, but it certainly would answer for the strange behavior of current day Republicans.

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Most of us are aware of the fact that parts of Australia were originally populated by people convicted of crimes in Great Britain and forcably exiled to the small continent. But many of us forget that the reason they were sent to Australia was that they could no longer be sent to the United States, since they had rebelled and were now a sovereign nation.

Many of the early settlers in the US and Canada were individuals convicted of crimes and sentenced to "Transport." Before the American Revolution, about 50,000 convicts were transported from Britain and Ireland to the American colonies. The majority went to Maryland, Virginia or Pennsylvania.

The Crown hired merchants to ship them off to help colonize the area reather than sending them to jail. In some cases, these individuals became indentured, or their services became the property of the business that shipped them over. A wealthy criminal could pay for his cabin and freedom upon arrival in the Colonies, but the poor had their services sold to cover costs.

Georgia was an actual penal colony, but was not originally established to settle criminals. It was an alternative to Paupers' Prison, with George Ogilthorpe proposing and establishing the colony after seeing horrible conditions in England.

http://askville.amazon.com/true-Australia-originally-populated-criminals/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=33108470

[libodem]

3. Thank you for the info

And all in.all I respect farming and ranching but most family operations are unable to make it unless they own the land. So much are now huge corporate agra-business outfits.

[newfie11]

4. Here in Western SD many ranches are family owned

And were settled in the 1800's.
Many are 100's to 1000's of acres.

[libodem]

6. That is about the only way you can make it these days

Otherwise the husband and wife have to be employed outside the home full time just to make payments.


That being said running cattle or sheep on land is very destructive to it unless you have a good rotation system.

[newfie11]

7. It depends on the number of animals and acres

There is not much sheep in western SD (except around Belle Fourche) and yes sheep can be more destructive than cattle if not handled right.

Yes the cattle are rotated, this is their business and like any good business man they do what is needed. Like I've mentioned, some of these big ranches are still in the same family well over 100 years.
Employment outside the home is not possible for some due to the long distances. Especially western SD where most big ranches are.
There are small towns like Faith SD but it can take hours just to get there and winter is another story.
If cattle have no grass or poor quality they ain't gonna gain weight.

[spanone]

5. K&R...

[Duppers]

8. So true. K&R

[Lars39]

9. And destroy terrain with ATV.

[libodem]

11. Yes

Those off road vehicles creat rut and start erosion.