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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo the people here who think ignoring the Bundys is a good idea, how much longer do you wait??????
1 month? 3 months? 6 months?
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LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)sets up the Sovereign Nation of Bundystan.
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saltpoint
(50,986 posts)will be resolved, but once it ever is, one of the questions that will remain is why armed seditionists are allowed to have dildos and all consumers in Alabama aren't allowed to have them.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/06/gay-marriage-bans-_n_4907115.html
I think it's imperative that Ted Cruz address this disparity of justice at once.
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)Until there is the possibility of a confrontation, let them stand around in the cold.
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cwydro
(51,308 posts)Of course, the birders will be assured of sighting some early spring cuckoos.
unc70
(6,116 posts)There is clearly probable cause to justify warrants, wire taps, and other surveillance for all those involved at the refuge. Based on that there is likely now probable cause for nearly everyone they are in contact with. The longer this goes on, the more likely they will reveal evidence leading to felony convictions. Arrest when convenient, monitor others closely to limit risk of violence or damages.
Everything electronic at the refuge is being monitored. Many of the phones and computers are now in eavesdrop mode, secretly recording conversations and sending them to authorities. Some devices can also take pictures without being detected. Because all of this is in a remote location makes easier to track them. Of course there are more high tech options that can be deployed.
I say let this run for a while and see what we can learn.
Plus their whining attitude keeps getting more and more obvious. They are among the most entitled assholes I've ever seen.
I love them whining about how they think they're being surveilled, what an outrage while they're illegally occupying federal lands.
And now LaVoy Finnican is whining about how they're taking away his foster children, who were his "main source of income."
http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/militant-says-foster-children-were-pulled-from-his-home-lavoy-finicum-burns-oregon/
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)That sounds like they're either prepared to do something before birding season starts, or prepared to throw in the towel by that time.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)the FBI said they were not monitoring them which is probably true. But if feds are doing the creme de la creme of surveillance it's not the FBI.
Most people believe the Oregon terrorism event is just about what they can see. I don't think so. There's something else going on here and it's big and complicated because of some of the people involved. When the President's team is ready to do their thing, I'm sure they're gonna come HARD and FAST.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)the Bundy position will become untenable.
Kaleva
(36,320 posts)Back in the mid 90's, the armed takeover of the tribal center at the Keweenaw Bay Indian reservation and subsequent standoff lasted a year and a half.
JEB
(4,748 posts)Cut their balls off and nail them to a fence post. Don't be surprised if it happens to some of these idiots.
Rex
(65,616 posts)laws are absolute. Really is priceless and I for one and enjoying the silence.