Oregon: The occupiers are emboldened. And that's a big problem.

[cali]

Ammon Bundy on Tuesday cautioned federal employees not to interfere with local ranchers and miners who defy government regulations as he stepped toward increased militancy on Day 18 of his occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

The armed protesters are clearing the way for Harney County residents to again ranch, mine and log on land now controlled by federal managers, Bundy said.

The occupation leader addressed "range cons" – federal range conservationists who work with ranchers on grazing schedules and rotations to minimize the ecological impact of cattle. He also cited their employer, the U.S. Bureau of Land Management, and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, which manages the bird sanctuary.

Federal agents shouldn't try to intimidate those who assert their rights, Bundy said in a news conference at the entrance to the refuge headquarters, 30 miles southeast of Burns.

"We give warning they are not to do that," Bundy said.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/post.html

[Fairgo]

1. ...or what?

Please make your threats to the government clear.

[enough]

2. Talk is cheap. (nt)

[Hortensis]

3. Hot air. The feds are watching for the possibility

that large numbers of people could join them, changing the situation and with it their strategy, but that hasn't happened.

The hot air is just continuation of the silliness.

[cali]

4. Yeah because we just imagined they've built a road, torn down a fence

used computers, etc. I think it's more than hot air.

[Hortensis]

6. Nope. Pretty much hot air. Using equipment there to

Indulge in a little vandalizing in the woods hardly adds up to the revolution the imagine they're leading.

[Bluenorthwest]

5. Oregon standoff: Anger, frustration boil over at community meeting

A chant then grew in the gymnasium: "Go, go, go, go, go."

That was a message Bundy heard repeatedly through the evening, one he once vowed to heed. He sat expressionless, making no move to respond or to comment.

But the audience of perhaps 300 people had plenty to say, and it seemed the cork had come out of the county.

One woman said she appreciated the attention Bundy has brought to rural issues but told him, "Get the hell out of my county."

Another man gestured at Bundy and gave him the same message.

"Are you happy you did this to our community?" he said.

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/oregon_standoff_anger_frustrat.html#incart_big-photo


Rallies against the Bundy Gang Antics yesterday in Portland, Eugene, Medford and Boise.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/01/hundreds_gather_to_protest_mal.html#incart_big-photo

[cwydro]

7. I truly despise these idiots.

I hope the government has something up its sleeve.

I'm beginning to doubt that..

[Rex]

8. Well duh. When you let armed terrorists get away with crimes daily, they will get bolder.

So much for intel by the DHS...I guess they were too busy making sure OWS got shutdown as fast as possible. Priorities.

[mainer]

9. Birders, assert your rights! Occupy Malheur and go in carrying...

binoculars and body cams!

If the Bundys threaten you, charge them with assault. It's your land, too. You have every right to use those buildings, walk that land.

[geek tragedy]

10. and get pictures of them so that you can call out the DOJ for allowing violence

to go unpunished on federal land

[haele]

12. Perhaps that's part of the line in the sand the Feds have.

Waiting for a local or environmentalist to get frustrated enough to go in and get injured or killed by the trigger happy yahoos when they confront them on the site. Right now, all the confrontation is being done in "safe" areas with a lot of press around - not only safe for the locals, but for the yee-hadists who can hastily retreat to their "base" and complain in the mirror about cowardice and traitors to their particular Libertarian version of the constitution.
Someone other than the "Tyrannical Gumment" can corner them in their compound, with a lot of press around, and they have to be able to control their rabid, selfish, stupidity - or they aren't going to look very heroic at all.
To use the Bundy bunch's "Wise Use" mythology -
Captain Moroni, the supposed hero who leads an army of abused citizens that takes down tyrants simply by opposing them through peaceful civil disobedience, quickly becomes General Moron, the dangerous whack-a-doo in charge of a gang of slack-jawed ignoramuses who hanker after the blood of anyone who "disses them".

Haele

[Johonny]

11. Why shouldn't they feel emboldened?

The media is covering them, they aren't feeling any governmental pressure, and they are both delusional and devoted to their cause. The only question is when they walk away free as a bird? After irreversible damage is done to the area or before...

[gratuitous]

13. If only a black kid with a toy gun would join them

We'd see some enforcement of the law then, I'll tell you what.

[snooper2]

14. There is actually one black guy, kind of young, with a real gun there...they were pimping him out

Look!

We have a black with us! We be diverse!

When the guy spoke you could tell he isn't very fucking bright, just like the rest of the terrorists.